Schefter: Cards to tag Dansby

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Not gonna happen. Before Dansby signs a franchise tender (if he isn't given a long term deal) he will ask to not be tagged again, watch.

It's coming!!! Did you hear his words on the radio? Mr. Graves get off your a$$, it's been 2 years now!!!
 

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I found Rod's pic at the Cards website
 

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He was asked about Pendy and he said he was upset they didnt consult him considering he is considered their franchise player. Which I found hilarious that he would think he should be consulted on coaching issues.

Now that is funny. At least Karlos still has a sense of humor. I know players hate the Franchise tag but it's part of the business and he will make a nice chunk of change next year.
 

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Anyone want to bet a long term deal does not get done?
 

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Yeah that.

And the Bidwills are cheap too. :D

Now it feels like the board of old. Cool.

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Those sharpshooters have the DNA to call for KW's scalp next year if thet "don't like" some of his moves.
 

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Said he knew it was going to happen again because he knows how the Cards do business.

I wonder what that means?

I still don't see why he would care about being franchised. He gets 17 million for two years and unlike guys like Pace isn't tied to a long term contract and can shop around next year. Well I guess there is a difference because the money isn't guaranteed.

Aren't the players always negotiating for shorter contracts?

I'm guessing its no longer about the money but the ego. "Look how much I was worth as a free agent."
 

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The cardinals can not tag Dansby again if they tag this year. Personally Dansby is not worth $9 million dollars for one season. Nothing anyone can say is going to change my mind.
 

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I wonder what that means?

I still don't see why he would care about being franchised. He gets 17 million for two years and unlike guys like Pace isn't tied to a long term contract and can shop around next year. Well I guess there is a difference because the money isn't guaranteed.

Aren't the players always negotiating for shorter contracts?

I'm guessing its no longer about the money but the ego. "Look how much I was worth as a free agent."

That's true and I remember last year Dansby said that it would be an honor to receive the tag. Of course that was before he saw Pace get two offers of over 40M by the Dolphins and the Jets right out of the gate.
 

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The cardinals can not tag Dansby again if they tag this year. Personally Dansby is not worth $9 million dollars for one season. Nothing anyone can say is going to change my mind.

I would agree with you if Dansby stays in his current ILB role. If he gets switched to the edge where he belongs, he might change your mind, Vinny.
 

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Apparently he got the "non-exclusive" tag this time. How is that different from the other tag?
 

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Apparently he got the "non-exclusive" tag this time. How is that different from the other tag?

He can negotiate with other teams, but the Cards have the right to match. If they don't match the offer the Cards get 2 #1's.
 

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There are two types of franchise players, "exclusive" and "non-exclusive."

Clubs can designate an exclusive franchise player by offering a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position at the end of the restricted free agent signing period, or a 20 percent increase over his 2008 salary, or the average of the top five salaries at his position at the end of last season -- whichever of the three is greater. The offering club retains exclusive negotiating rights and other clubs cannot negotiate with exclusive franchise players.

A non-exclusive franchise player is offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at his position in the 2008 season, or a 20 percent salary increase, whichever is greater. The offering club does not hold exclusive negotiating rights, and the player can negotiate with other clubs. The original club may match any offer to retain the player, or receive two first-round draft choices as compensation if it elects not to match. The signing period for non-exclusive franchise players is from Feb. 27 through July 15. Clubs have until July 15 to sign franchise players to a multi-year contract or extension. After this date the player may only sign a one-year tender for the next season.

Clubs may designate a transition player by offering a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top 10 salaries of 2008 at the player's position, or a 20 percent salary increase, whichever is greater. A transition player designation gives the club a first-refusal right to match an offer sheet within seven days given to the player by another club. If the offering club does not match the offer sheet, it receives no compensation. Transition players can be signed from Feb. 27 to July 22.
 

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Folks, we just went to the SuperBowl, our FO can't be total idiots

Lighten up a little
 

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Apparently he got the "non-exclusive" tag this time. How is that different from the other tag?

He was non exclusive last year to. Only a select few get the exclusive tag. I believe only scrabble the CB from the Raiders last year was the only exclusive tag. This year so far only Cassell has it.
 

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Quick Question: I'm assuming that the two first round picks that the Cardinals would get as compensation would come from the team that signs him, but what if a team like the Cowboys signed him this year? They don't have a first round pick in this year's draft, so would the Cardinals be stuck with '10 and '11 picks?
 

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The cardinals can not tag Dansby again if they tag this year. Personally Dansby is not worth $9 million dollars for one season. Nothing anyone can say is going to change my mind.

Players can be tagged as many times as a team wants to. Its just they will pay the concequences of using it 3 or more times. At the 3rd time the player no longer gets paid like the top 5 at their position, they now get paid like the top 5 QB, even if your lets say a Kicker being tagged for a 3rd time. Or 120% which ever is higher of course.
 

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Quick Question: I'm assuming that the two first round picks that the Cardinals would get as compensation would come from the team that signs him, but what if a team like the Cowboys signed him this year? They don't have a first round pick in this year's draft, so would the Cardinals be stuck with '10 and '11 picks?

Yes. Its the teams 1st two 1st rounders, when ever they are.

But it is pretty much a certianty that a team will not give up two 1st rounders for Dansby. So a deal would most likely be worked out where the Cards would except lower compensation. Such as just a 1st or even lower if the Cards except it.
 

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I would agree with you if Dansby stays in his current ILB role. If he gets switched to the edge where he belongs, he might change your mind, Vinny.

Yep he should get paid 9 mill to get destroyed by OT's on every play.
 

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Yep he should get paid 9 mill to get destroyed by OT's on every play.

I agree with Joe. I think he would be great against the pass, where he can free-lance a bit, cover, and get after the passer. But he would be an exterme libility against the run. Gettting off blocks is not his strong suit IMO. Therefore he is not ideally suited to be an OLB in a 3-4.
 

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I agree with Joe. I think he would be great against the pass, where he can free-lance a bit, cover, and get after the passer. But he would be an exterme libility against the run. Gettting off blocks is not his strong suit IMO. Therefore he is not ideally suited to be an OLB in a 3-4.

Where as an ILB he's a liability against the run. So Guards can decimate him on the second level? :shrug:
 

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Where as an ILB he's a liability against the run. So Guards can decimate him on the second level? :shrug:

People keep confusing SILB with WILB. They are completely different positions. Dansby has 4 guys in front of him to take on blockers. Both DE's, the NT, and the SILB. It is Hayes Job to hit the gap first if there is still a G not doubling up on the NT's or DE's which 9 times out of 10 is exactly the case. Dansby's biggest worry is the FB as a WILB. WILB is the most covered up and protected front 7 player on the field, and the biggest reason why the WILB is always going to be your #1 tackles guy at the end of the year.

Now compare that to OLB where the only person covering up Dansby is a DE, and now Dansby has to worry about not just the FB but the OT, Stunting OG, stunting OC, TE's, and RB's. Dansby will get destroyed in that situation.
 

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