Seahawks Game Conclusion

[Harry]

1. The Cards are a far more athletically skilled team.
2. The Cards issues are all in house. Fix them and they're dominant.
3. Despite the noise Palmer should have called an audible on at least one of the fumble plays. On another Fells should have chipped the rusher before going out, Massie took the correct block on that play.
4. Cards need to be better at "hot" reads.
5. Cards need to keep JB. He's strong for a fourth receiver.
6. Seahawks will not make the playoffs.
7. Seahawks will be a tough rebuild, as will the Niners.
8. So Cards could take control for at least a couple of years.
9. Don't sweat the small stuff; enjoy the ride

 

[Cardiac]

I can't recall a more positive post by you on the state of the Cards. Where do your rank the Cards against the other top teams?

I'm still concerned about out ILBer's and Pass Rush.

 

[GatorAZ]

I think Seattle still makes the playoffs. They've had a 4th qtr lead in every game this year against a brutal schedule. They'll be fine.

 

[cardfaninfl]

5. Cards need to keep JB. He's strong for a fourth receiver.

If there is one player that leaves for a bigger paycheck (or even a one-year deal to prove he is a starter with another team) in which I would fully support, it is Jaron.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think Seattle still makes the playoffs. They've had a 4th qtr lead in every game this year against a brutal schedule. They'll be fine.

agreed. I think they sneak into the playoffs at the 6 seed and they're the team that Carolina absolutely does NOT want to face in the 2nd round.

 

[CFLredzoned]

I think it's going to be real hard to hold onto JB - not because of money, but because of playing time. He knows as long as he's on this team, he'll have a hard time cracking the starting lineup. He's coming into his prime. The only way he's going to earn a nice payday at some point is to get on a team, as soon as possible, where he can start and get starter's exposure. At least, I'm sure that's what he and his agent are thinking. And we'll be fine when that happens. Next year or the following, JB's replacement will be drafted, at a much lower rookies salary than whatever somebody is paying JB to start on his second contract. And the cycle continues.

 

[crisper57]

agreed. I think they sneak into the playoffs at the 6 seed and they're the team that Carolina absolutely does NOT want to face in the 2nd round.

I want to agree, but they are 2 games out of the WC already. Gonna be tough to leapfrog.

 

[football karma]

I think Seattle still makes the playoffs. They've had a 4th qtr lead in every game this year against a brutal schedule. They'll be fine.

9 wins gives them a chance --meaning 5-2 the rest if the way.

The trouble is- GB, Atl likely also end up with at least 9 wins--

and then you have teams like the rest of the NFC has 4 wins-- Chicago and Philly being in the mix as well.

Odd year in the conference.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I think JB might be replacing Floyd next season.


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[vince56]

I think JB might be replacing Floyd next season.


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Truth is we're not going to keep both. Floyd is more consistent, scores more, and is the safer one to keep, but you have to just LOVE how JB plays the game. I want to see him do well, and I guarantee his career is going to be bigger than being a 4th WR on a team. He's developing into a solid starting WR.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think JB might be replacing Floyd next season.


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Floyd is still under contract next year, right... at 7 million per? I think he's worth it since we'll be defending our championship.

 

[NJCardFan]

2. The Cards issues are all in house. Fix them and they're dominant.

This is the only point I disagree with. The 2 weaknesses that plague our defense is a weak LB corp and the lack of a legit edge rusher. I keep repeating that during this year's draft, BASK should have taken Shaq Thompson or Staphone Anthony instead of Humphries who wan't a position of great need. If we can get a legit edge rusher this team will be down right scary.

 

[Shaggy]

I think it's going to be real hard to hold onto JB - not because of money, but because of playing time. He knows as long as he's on this team, he'll have a hard time cracking the starting lineup. He's coming into his prime. The only way he's going to earn a nice payday at some point is to get on a team, as soon as possible, where he can start and get starter's exposure. At least, I'm sure that's what he and his agent are thinking. And we'll be fine when that happens. Next year or the following, JB's replacement will be drafted, at a much lower rookies salary than whatever somebody is paying JB to start on his second contract. And the cycle continues.

We also have Shipply on the PS that could replace him. I don't want to lose JB either, but understand why he would want to find another team.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Harry, I couldn't agree more that the offense would benefit from a few more hot reads, it seems like almost every snap, they are breaking the huddle with maybe 10 seconds or less on the play clock, which is maddening to me, more times than not, it appears that Carson doesn't even have more than a second or two to survey the defense before he's doing the Texas 2 step trying to get the snap off in time.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

9 wins gives them a chance --meaning 5-2 the rest if the way.

The trouble is- GB, Atl likely also end up with at least 9 wins--

and then you have teams like the rest of the NFC has 4 wins-- Chicago and Philly being in the mix as well.

Odd year in the conference.

It is pretty uncommon for a team to earn a NFC wild card spot with less than 10 wins. The last team to do it was the Eagles in 2008 and they were 9-6-1. Currently the 2 wild card teams are 6-3 and will likely end up with 10+ wins and thus Seattle will almost certainly have to get to 10+ wins to get in.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

This is the only point I disagree with. The 2 weaknesses that plague our defense is a weak LB corp and the lack of a legit edge rusher. I keep repeating that during this year's draft, BASK should have taken Shaq Thompson or Staphone Anthony instead of Humphries who wan't a position of great need. If we can get a legit edge rusher this team will be down right scary.

The biggest issue determining whether we win or lose are our own turnovers. Despite the lack of talent at certain spots on the defense, it isn't the defense that has cost us games this year. It has been sloppy play by the offense that has determined whether we win or lose for the most part.

 

[Garthshort]

Have to keep Floyd. He's young, and we have to keep him.

 

[Harry]

I don't typically rank teams that haven't played. I think the Cards are better that Cincy, especially at home, so let's stop there.

JB is an RFA, pay him, he'll be affordable. Fitz isn't getting any younger and franky picking up Floyds' $7 mil will be decided on his play for the remainder of the year. Play making WRs can be drafted even in round 2.

Certainly the Cards need an edge rusher, but they can put up enough points to cover that deficiency. Powers' injury concerns me more. The Cards will blitz often and success requires the CB to hold up. Bethel & Powers will both be UFAs, so the Cards need to extend somebody fast. I rate this ahead of re-signing CJ.

As to the ILBs, I don't share everyone else's concern. Gurley hurt them, but they didn't game plan for him. There was simply not enough tendency data. He won't be as successful in the next meeting. This alignment has helped against crossing routes and tight end routes up the middle.

As to being positive, this is the first time I recall seeing a roster with this much talent. Give it to Warner and they win it all. This is not a slight on Palmer. Warner was among the best QBs at playing today's game.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I don't typically rank teams that haven't played. I think the Cards are better that Cincy, especially at home, so let's stop there.

JB is an RFA, pay him, he'll be affordable. Fitz isn't getting any younger and franky picking up Floyds' $7 mil will be decided on his play for the remainder of the year. Play making WRs can be drafted even in round 2.

Certainly the Cards need an edge rusher, but they can put up enough points to cover that deficiency. Powers' injury concerns me more. The Cards will blitz often and success requires the CB to hold up. Bethel & Powers will both be UFAs, so the Cards need to extend somebody fast. I rate this ahead of re-signing CJ.

As to the ILBs, I don't share everyone else's concern. Gurley hurt them, but they didn't game plan for him. There was simply not enough tendency data. He won't be as successful in the next meeting. This alignment has helped against crossing routes and tight end routes up the middle.

As to being positive, this is the first time I recall seeing a roster with this much talent. Give it to Warner and they win it all. This is not a slight on Palmer. Warner was among the best QBs at playing today's game.

I agree that this is a more talented roster (O-line most notably) and that will help Palmer's numbers. Though with that being said Palmer is on pace for a much better year statistically than Warner in 2008. I honestly believe that with the way Palmer is playing right now he is right up there with Warner at right around the same age.

 

[Goldfield]

Nobody can touch Warner when he was here. He was unreal. But I'm thrilled with Palmer.

 

[TruColor]

Palmer handles adversity WAY better than Warner ever did.

I remember at the beginning of every GameDay thread, we'd be asking - "do we have Good Kurt or Bad Kurt today?". Good Kurt meant that we had a great chance to win, Bad Kurt could sometimes mean disaster.

Sure, the overall team is better now (overcoming adversity), but Kurt single-handedly cost the Cards games as well.

 

[football karma]

Palmer handles adversity WAY better than Warner ever did.

I remember at the beginning of every GameDay thread, we'd be asking - "do we have Good Kurt or Bad Kurt today?". Good Kurt meant that we had a great chance to win, Bad Kurt could sometimes mean disaster.

Sure, the overall team is better now (overcoming adversity), but Kurt single-handedly cost the Cards games as well.

truth

I would say that Palmer is moving in the pocket better than Kurt did

very impressed with the way Palmer has bought time and found people

his first year -- a Palmer roll out was a recipe for a bad interception

 

[DeAnna]

Palmer handles adversity WAY better than Warner ever did.

I think KW had more ad-libbing ability, but he did get rattled more easily than Palmer. That's when you saw the 'bad Kurt.'

 

[daves]

Palmer handles adversity WAY better than Warner ever did.

I remember at the beginning of every GameDay thread, we'd be asking - "do we have Good Kurt or Bad Kurt today?". Good Kurt meant that we had a great chance to win, Bad Kurt could sometimes mean disaster.

Sure, the overall team is better now (overcoming adversity), but Kurt single-handedly cost the Cards games as well.

I think KW had more ad-libbing ability, but he did get rattled more easily than Palmer. That's when you saw the 'bad Kurt.'

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[Vermont Maverick]

Nobody can touch Warner when he was here. He was unreal. But I'm thrilled with Palmer.

I just know this. If we keep picking up veterans like Warner OR Palmer, we don't need to worry about drafting everybody's biggest concern, "QBOF". Our QBOFs are 30 something vets who are damn good.

Just think about this for a minute. For Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer, we gave up ONE 6th round draft pick, TOTAL.!!!!!!!!!!