AzWins23
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It's just a thought....He was one of the best Cardinals players of all-time
Skkorpion said:No. Larry had great heart but was not a great player. If Aeneas Williams had played his whole career here, or even left on a positive note, an argument could be made to retire #35. But Aeneas jumped ship and forced a trade.
Frankly, 18 Arizona years with only one winning season says it all. Bad teams. Bad coaches. Bad players.
Agreed. If they did retire numbers, I think you would have to start with HOFers like Dierdorf (his feelings about the Bidwills aside) and then move on to guys like Roy Green, Jim Hart, Mel Gray etc. IMO Centers doesn't make the cut.abomb said:Say no to retired numbers and yes to ring of honor.
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spanky1 said:Hey wait a minute here people...numbers are retired for only the "special few". Aeneas Williams was a very solid player who could play on any teams starting lineup.....but he sure as hell was not the kind of player that gets a number retired.
I mean, honestly, does he derserve to be talked about in the same sentence as the top 10 CB that have ever played the game.....not IMHO.
Retiring a number is for the Gretzky's and Jordan's of sports....people that have revolutionized their sport......and Williams isn't that kind of player.
Buckybird said:Hey wait a minute here people...numbers are retired for only the "special few". Aeneas Williams was a very solid player who could play on any teams starting lineup.....but he sure as hell was not the kind of player that gets a number retired.
I think you're wrong about Aeneas! he has bee one the best Cards ever,
owns at least one NFL record(longest fumble for TD), would have beaten
Larry Wilsons team record for INT's (if not traded), made the All-Decade team
of the 90's at CB and WAS A STAR ON A LOT OF BAD CARDINAL TEAMS.
#35 was a class act on and off the field while he played in AZ and one day
will be inducted into the HOF as a Cardinal. Retire his number, he deserves it.
Larry, no way. Solid player, not a star.
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The Cardinals will institute thier Ring of Honor at the new stadium in 2006. Larry Wilson will be the first player recognized. At least this was the case before Pat Tillman's death. We shall see if anything changes.
cheesebeef said:The guy ash been one of the best Cardinals of all time was on the All-DECADE team (you know - that means one of the best corners for 10 YEARS) all while NEVER getting any kind of support across from him or up front with a pass rush. To say he's just a decent player is flat out stupidity. The guy may or may not make it into the HOF, but he sure as hell played like a HOFer.
spanky1 said:If you think that Williams will be inducted into the Hall of Fame, then I have some land to sell you at the mouth of the Colorado River when it meets the Sea of Cortez....or the Gulf of California if you prefer.......oh, and by the way, no water flows from the the Colorado River when it meets the Sea of Cortez.
What I'm saying here is that Williams gets as close to being on anyones ballot as he does the Bidwills naming a bobble head doll after him.
C'mon mate......look at those that get passed over year after year and if you really think Williams is in their class then you don't know s*** from shineola!
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