Skattebo’s Big Moment

[MadCardDisease]

The 4.6 is too slow. He's closer to Clarett than Trey Benson in the 40. Doubtfull that he' be able to break tackles at the NFL level like he did in college. Guys are too much bigger, stronger, faster. The NFL makes fast guys look slow. What's it going to do to a slow guy?

Skattebo reminds me of Kyren Williams who ran in the 4.65 range. They both seek contact and are built low to the ground making them hard to bring down. I'm not looking for Cam to outrun people. What I do expect is when defenders come in and try to arm tackle him they are not going to get him down.

 

[football karma]

oddly enough-- I think Skatt could be a really good third down back.

Size and attitude to pass protect. Excellent hands -- and his skill set is very good in the open field

in an NFL that plays so much zone -- to be able to throw an outlet 4 yard pass on 3rd and 7 -- and know your RB will run over a DB to get the last 2 yards to move the chains is a valuable thing

 

[BirdGangThing]

oddly enough-- I think Skatt could be a really good third down back.

Size and attitude to pass protect. Excellent hands -- and his skill set is very good in the open field

in an NFL that plays so much zone -- to be able to throw an outlet 4 yard pass on 3rd and 7 -- and know your RB will run over a DB to get the last 2 yards to move the chains is a valuable thing

id like to see two backs in the backfield more this year instead of so many double/triple tight end sets

 

[Harry]

The 4.6 is too slow. He's closer to Clarett than Trey Benson in the 40. Doubtfull that he' be able to break tackles at the NFL level like he did in college. Guys are too much bigger, stronger, faster. The NFL makes fast guys look slow. What's it going to do to a slow guy?

Connor ran 4.65 at the Combine.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Connor ran 4.65 at the Combine.

and was drafted in round 3

 

[DVontel]

Connor ran 4.65 at the Combine.

Which measures out to a 4.5 at a Pro Day.

Skat running Connor’s combine time at his Pro Day is not the same thing.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Which measures out to a 4.5 at a Pro Day.

Skat running Connor’s combine time at his Pro Day is not the same thing.

I think you literally just make that argument. If skats time at pro day was a 4.53 and you say that at pro day that equals a 4.6 at combine then he ran a better time than Conners 4.65 at combine, no?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

At the combine, too. Which is way more impressive.

A 4.53 at your Pro day is pretty much a 4.6 at the combine.

 

[DVontel]

I think you literally just make that argument. If skats time at pro day was a 4.53 and you say that at pro day that equals a 4.6 at combine then he ran a better time than Conners 4.65 at combine, no?

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Ah that’s updated numbers. I didn’t see those posted anywhere. That’s a game changer for me for sure.

 

[Harry]

Which measures out to a 4.5 at a Pro Day.

Skat running Connor’s combine time at his Pro Day is not the same thing.

Don’t agree fully with comparison. Some guys have actually run slower at Pro Day

 

[reebokalone2001]

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If this means his draft position would take a hit and Cards can select him in rd 5-6, I am all for it. Dream comes true.

 

[BirdGangThing]

If this

If this means his draft position would take a hit and Cards can select him in rd 5-6, I am all for it. Dream comes true.

he's still round 3 imo

 

[Cheesebeef]

he's still round 3 imo

Not if he ran high 4.6s, IMO.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Not if he ran high 4.6s, IMO.

if he had run the 4.5 we're talking round 2

 

[ajcardfan]

if he had run the 4.5 we're talking round 2

I think way too much is made out of workout numbers. Personally, I don't believe an extra .15 on a stopwatch is that important in overall evaluation.

As is someone like Monti is sitting around thinking, "I love this kid! We have him in the top 50 on our board!"

"Oh noes! He ran a 4.65 rather than a 4.5 40! Now he's maybe #100 on our board."

 

[DVontel]

Don’t agree fully with comparison. Some guys have actually run slower at Pro Day

I find that very hard to believe unless they ran with an injury.

 

[BulldogCard]

I like the vertical Skat had at the combine. 4.6 is what he looks like and that's decent for him. He and Conner would be that smashmouth combo. 3rd day pick. DL, Edge, OL, and WR will come first before a rb.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I think way too much is made out of workout numbers. Personally, I don't believe an extra .15 on a stopwatch is that important in overall evaluation.

As is someone like Monti is sitting around thinking, "I love this kid! We have him in the top 50 on our board!"

"Oh noes! He ran a 4.65 rather than a 4.5 40! Now he's maybe #100 on our board."

*4.65 with the best stiff arm in college football

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think way too much is made out of workout numbers. Personally, I don't believe an extra .15 on a stopwatch is that important in overall evaluation.

As is someone like Monti is sitting around thinking, "I love this kid! We have him in the top 50 on our board!"

"Oh noes! He ran a 4.65 rather than a 4.5 40! Now he's maybe #100 on our board."

Honestly, if he’s not taking that into account, he’s an idiot. You can try to downplay .15 difference as nothing, but that’s just not the case in the NFL. Speed matters on offense, especially in the first three rounds of the draft.

 

[oaken1]

Honestly, if he’s not taking that into account, he’s an idiot. You can try to downplay .15 difference as nothing, but that’s just not the case in the NFL. Speed matters on offense, especially in the first three rounds of the draft.

It does. But track speed and game speed are not the same. Plus, a power back is more likely to produce quickness in pads over a scat back,...simply because the few pounds of gear do not affect them as much

 

[AZ Native]

When I think of Skat I do not think of speed. He's never been "fast". That's not his best attribute. I'm glad his real speed is out there. Maybe he will fall a few rounds.

 

[ajcardfan]

Honestly, if he’s not taking that into account, he’s an idiot. You can try to downplay .15 difference as nothing, but that’s just not the case in the NFL. Speed matters on offense, especially in the first three rounds of the draft.

Of course it is taken into account. But I don't think an artificial workout setting is some kind of deciding factor in drafting a kid.

Personally I think he's a 5th round type of talent and will have an NFL career but will not be a star. If he ran a 4.2 it wouldn't change my mind much because I saw him play so much.

 

[WisconsinCard]

It does. But track speed and game speed are not the same. Plus, a power back is more likely to produce quickness in pads over a scat back,...simply because the few pounds of gear do not affect them as much

I agree, what's he running in pads and a helmet. Some guys carry their equipment better than others. Taking his time in shorts is not ideal. IMO

 

[Krangodnzr]

Honestly, if he’s not taking that into account, he’s an idiot. You can try to downplay .15 difference as nothing, but that’s just not the case in the NFL. Speed matters on offense, especially in the first three rounds of the draft.

Leland McElroy.