Skelton

[Cbus cardsfan]

Skelton shows some potential but it's hard to tell what his ceiling is. He definitley needs to quit soft tossing the deep ball. He has the arm, he needs to use it. Those floaters are just asking for trouble.

 

[Evil Ash]

Yeah I have actually. He moves much better in the pocket that Skelton.

So have I and I have absolutely no idea what you are watching. Mallett has the same faults as Skelton (bad footwork, not the best at reading defenses, etc) and so I don't see the difference that you do but hey whatever

 

[Dback Jon]

Come on guys. Are we really going to put our future in a project from Fordham?

Why is the fact he is from Fordham an issue?

Either a QB will get it at this level, or not. QBing a SEC school is not a guarantee of "getting it" in the NFL.

Remember, Warner was a project from a school at the same level as Fordham.

 

[az jam]

Come on guys. Are we really going to put our future in a project from Fordham?

The Packers did. (Vince Lombardi)

 

[Pariah]

Skelton to me is too slow. He has nice size and arm, but he is a statue.

This doesn't make sense to me. He's very mobile within the pocket and has a good sense for it.

 

[Evil Ash]

Skelton shows some potential but it's hard to tell what his ceiling is. He definitley needs to quit soft tossing the deep ball. He has the arm, he needs to use it. Those floaters are just asking for trouble.

With our WRs unable to get seperation the majority of the time, the lob passes for deep balls are actually a good idea. We're good at jump balls especially with Fitz

 

[clif]

Why is the fact he is from Fordham an issue?

Either a QB will get it at this level, or not. QBing a SEC school is not a guarantee of "getting it" in the NFL.

Remember, Warner was a project from a school at the same level as Fordham.

Because he is playing like he is at Forham right now. Lobbing deep passes, locking on to receivers, trying to run over LB's, making poor reads. ( he missed Larry running down the sidelines early). I'm tired of the bandaids. We need to make the plunge and get a top pick in here. Stop with the projects and retreads.

 

[clif]

This doesn't make sense to me. He's very mobile within the pocket and has a good sense for it.

Really? Man to me it takes him forever to get back in his drop. He lumbers around back there like a big ole target.

 

[Bobcat]

Come on guys. Are we really going to put our future in a project from Fordham?

This is the same thing back in the day fans in the NFL had to say about a short fat Italian who was an assistant coached for the New York Giants who my god Played at Fordham.

 

[Pariah]

Really? Man to me it takes him forever to get back in his drop. He lumbers around back there like a big ole target.

There's a huge disconnect between what you're seeing and what much of the board (and, dare I say, the rest of the NFL) is seeing.

His mobility is one of the bright spots in his play.

 

[az1965]

Really? Man to me it takes him forever to get back in his drop. He lumbers around back there like a big ole target.

A good part of this is the OL... neither our RB's nor QB have any chance. How many times we have defense in the backfield the moment the ball is snapped? Skelton has been under constant pressure and he has done a good job moving around avoiding sacks and completing some throws while under pressure.

 

[Evil Ash]

Because he is playing like he is at Forham right now. Lobbing deep passes, locking on to receivers, trying to run over LB's, making poor reads. ( he missed Larry running down the sidelines early). I'm tired of the bandaids. We need to make the plunge and get a top pick in here. Stop with the projects and retreads.

How has Sam Bradford done the last 3 weeks? He has completed roughly 50% of his passes with 0 TDs and 5 INTs. That was the #1 overall pick and everyone loves him as a franchise QB.

Rookies make mistakes. Its part of the learning curve.

 

[clif]

There's a huge disconnect between what you're seeing and what much of the board (and, dare I say, the rest of the NFL) is seeing.

His mobility is one of the bright spots in his play.

I'm not talking about his ability to run (which i wish he would do less of) I'm talking about him moving in the pocket and the time is takes him to get up from center. He just looks slow as hell to me. He has a nice arm, but a few times for whatever reason it seems to take forever to come out of there. His footwork is terrible. He seems to be off balance alot. I would have no problem drafting a top QB. Why do we have to settle for table scraps.

 

[az1965]

How has Sam Bradford done the last 3 weeks? He has completed roughly 50% of his passes with 0 TDs and 5 INTs. That was the #1 overall pick and everyone loves him as a franchise QB.

Rookies make mistakes. Its part of the learning curve.

Exactly.

Didn't we have a #10 pick Hiesman winner on the team for the last four years? How did that work out?

 

[PJ1]

Skelton's pocket presence and mobility are two of the things I like the most. He is actually further along in this area than DA who has been in the league for years.

 

[MrYeahBut]

If Skelton ends up being the backup next year this experience should really help him, imo

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

With our WRs unable to get seperation the majority of the time, the lob passes for deep balls are actually a good idea. We're good at jump balls especially with Fitz

There's a difference between throwing a jump ball and lobbing it. Lobbing it is never a good idea.All that is doing is asking for an INT.

 

[PJ1]

How has Sam Bradford done the last 3 weeks? He has completed roughly 50% of his passes with 0 TDs and 5 INTs. That was the #1 overall pick and everyone loves him as a franchise QB.

Rookies make mistakes. Its part of the learning curve.

Absolutely. Look at Sanchez in his second year and he is still having bad games. Some are losing sight of the fact that this is a rookie in his first games.

 

[desertdawg]

Absolutely. Look at Sanchez in his second year and he is still having bad games. Some are losing sight of the fact that this is a rookie in his first games.

Lets give the rookie some time, I like how he plays the game. (nuthin else to do)

 

[Evil Ash]

There's a difference between throwing a jump ball and lobbing it. Lobbing it is never a good idea.All that is doing is asking for an INT.

Depends on the situation. There have been times I'd prefer he didn't lob it but like I said earlier, its part of the learning curve

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Depends on the situation. There have been times I'd prefer he didn't lob it but like I said earlier, its part of the learning curve

i agree it's part of the learning curve and it's a throw he can definitely make. He just need to realize the reaction time is alot quicker in the NFL. He will learn that.

 

[D-Dogg]

Skelton looks like a really nice project. He's not ready for prime time, though. OTOH, there are so many other holes on this team you might as well give a really bright guy with all the physical skills an off-season as the No. 1 -- unless you have a shot at drafting Luck. That would be the only the caveat. You can't pass on a once-in-a-generation talent .. a guy with nice size, great feet, equally bright, and ability to throw darts way downfield with laser accuracy on the run.

Yep...if you can't get Luck, then go with Skelton. If there is any conceivable way you can Ditka your draft to get Luck, then do it. But I don't think he even comes out.

 

[Linderbee]

I asked DCR today why CAN'T he be our QBOF? He has size, mobility, a strong arm...a lot of the things he's lacking are the things that CAN be taught. I'm impressed with him so far, and I'm excited to see where he takes us, if given the chance.

btw, dcr had no answer as to why he can't be, either.

 

[Gaddabout]

Besides Luck, which I don't think we could get. I would take Mallet. That guy has the size, arm, and played in the SEC. Skelton to me is too slow. He has nice size and arm, but he is a statue. His footwork needs a ton of work. I have yet to see the touch you need to be successful in this league. I would be leery of Newton, but I would not be mad if he has a good combine.

You dismiss Skelton's mobility but go with Mallett, a guy who is clearly another Petrino system QB? Mallett hasn't made an NFL-quality completion in his career and save for the few games against real defenses, he hasn't had anything but clean pocket to work with. He's a big guy with a big arm with a notable history for wilting when big games are on the line.

He's actually slower than Skelton, less elusive, slightly stronger arm, but about the exact same prospect. But at least Skelton can say he went to Fordham, where going to class actually counts for something as a football player.

Any 1st-round pick on any QB other than Luck is a wasted pick.

 

[Pariah]

I'm not talking about his ability to run (which i wish he would do less of) I'm talking about him moving in the pocket

Me, too. We're talking about the same thing, yet we see it differently.