Skelton

[82CardsGrad]

Besides Luck, which I don't think we could get. I would take Mallet. That guy has the size, arm, and played in the SEC. Skelton to me is too slow. He has nice size and arm, but he is a statue. His footwork needs a ton of work. I have yet to see the touch you need to be successful in this league. I would be leery of Newton, but I would not be mad if he has a good combine.

No way should we be buring a first rounder on Mallet, or Locker, or any other QB other than Luck - period!

It's very simple - our QB situaiton boils down to Luck or Skelton. If we can't grab Luck, then we keep Skelton and make a play for a seasoned FA in the offseason.
We then use our early round picks to fill the multitude of other glaring holes we possess.... name you're pick of the litter there, but QB ain't one of them if we miss out on Luck!

 

[Mulli]

Since he was of the USC...rated at a 96 out of a one hundred.

oh yes.

 

[D-Dogg]

I have DCR rated at a 76 out of a 91 ratings because he was not of the USC. Max Hall rated as a 74 out of a 100 because he spelled the USC and yelled at the Utah to hate him.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Leenart a can't miss? Since when?

The Leenart was "the most NFL-ready QB to ever come out of college." Had he come out his junior year, he would've been a top 3 pick.
The Leenart was grossly over-hyped. The Fat Man "praised God" when the Leenart fell to us!

 

[earthsci]

No way should we be buring a first rounder on Mallet, or Locker, or any other QB other than Luck - period!

Yes. Thank you 82!

 

[john h]

I still like the way the kid carries himself on the field...though I stopped watching about midway through the 3rd.

I'm inclined to go with him and a FA vet next season.

JMHO, but I'm interested in yours (because I have a masochistic streak).

Does this mean you do not draft one of the top three QB's if we are in a position to draft one? If so this means you are putting all our hopes and dreams for the QBOTF on the shoulders of Skelton. We have no idea of how good a QB we can sign in the off season. There are not a lot of top QB's available. Personally I would like McNabb but that is just my thought. I am not prepared to place all my hopes on Skelton. I want to draft a QB in round one. You cannot have to many QBs in order to find one who really is a QB of the future. Would I go with Skelton over Luck, Mallet, or the Auburn road runner? No way would I pass on any of these three. As always if you start building a team around a good QB. If you do not have one you are never going to go very far.

 

[john h]

If we have chance at Luck.... We take it.

Since we wont, We take a badass pass rusher and go with your plan.

Amen and Amen!

 

[john h]

Skelton is ok. He has the physical tools. I wonder if he has the mind though. He's got a lot to learn. Personally, if I were running the Cards my QB preferences would be
1. Luck
2. Any quality FA QB
3. Skelton
4. Newton/Mallet/Any of the other raw prospects in the draft who will be a year behind Skelton
.
.
I'd like to come out of the offseason with at least 2 of those 4 things. Otherwise...

Skelton has largely been throwing short passes by design. We have not been moving the ball down the field. He made a bad throw for an interception and fumbled and we did not score enough to win any game. The question is just how much can he develop. What is the top for him? Will he be able to throw long and accurately? He does not throw well moving to his left and throwing across his body. Against one of the worst teams in the NFL he was at best average on Sunday for a rookie. Tebow played his first game as a starter and he looks like a QBOTF. The first round pick last year sure looks like a QBOTF for the Rams. Skelton has two games and we are ready to see him as our QBOTF. Not only that, but the games were not at all impressive. Next week he is going to see some real pass rushers and defense. Unless hew shows a lot in the next two games we had better be for drafting a QB while we can or else we settle for being an also ran for the next decade. It is not often you are in a position where you can get a good QB. We will be in such a position and we better use it wisely. We have a chance to draft a real QB and we better take it while we can. Move up if we can get luck by any means possible. If not Newton or Mallet look a lot more like a QBOTF than Skelton IMHO>

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Skelton has a lot of what it takes to be a good QB, if not a great one.

Cliff, is correct, he takes a LOOONG time getting into his drop. His "hike-one-two-three" is diffinately like someone whom was told what he had been doing in college was poor, and needs to be fixed.

I would assume/hope the reason why Skelton's drops are so slow, is because he is making a conscience effort to make the drop correctly.

After that, the next problem is footwork. His accuracy is ALMOST there, and he learned yesterday that 1 foot in accuracy makes all the difference in this league. Al lot of his poor throws where caused by bad foot work. His INT, was a classic Cardinals INT, because A. The throw was off, and B. The TE sucks. Warner threw that ball, and got it picked a lot too......just I remember him yelling at L.Pope afterwards, LOL.

Skelton is exactly what Whiz said he was. "Not Ready."

BUT, Skelton throws a nice ball, has good poise, size, mobility, is young and has a lot of promise.

Final Verdict ?

We need a vet, and a draft pick this offseason, IMO. That includes keeping Skelton on the roster

If Luck is there take'em. If not Von Miller, or D.Bowers please.

 

[clif]

I'm no scout, I just call what I see. Go back and read some of his draft bios. They all say the same thing that I see. I see a guy with some tools, but has got bad footwork a slow delivery and choppy feet. I don't mind him being a # 2, but I sure as hell would not pass up a top QB just because he looks better than DA.

 

[earthsci]

I'm no scout, I just call what I see. Go back and read some of his draft bios. They all say the same thing that I see. I see a guy with some tools, but has got bad footwork a slow delivery and choppy feet. I don't mind him being a # 2, but I sure as hell would not pass up a top QB just because he looks better than DA.

From what I see, there is only one QB who should be drafted as early as we will pick...Luck.

 

[az jam]

I think many on the Board feel we should sign a quality free agent qb, keep Skelton and probably draft one of the top 3 qbs. We can't have all our eggs in the Skelton basket. The QB position is too important for us to be successful to not have more than one option. Additionally competition is good.

 

[az jam]

From what I see, there is only one QB who should be drafted as early as we will pick...Luck.

That is part of the problem. Newton & Mallet are good but are they good enough to be a top 5 which is where we will pick. But can we really pass on them? Its a dilemma. We may have to reach and take one.

 

[earthsci]

That is part of the problem. Newton & Mallet are good but are they good enough to be a top 5 which is where we will pick. But can we really pass on them? Its a dilemma. We may have to reach and take one.

If we want to become a perennial playoff team we need to take the best players. Luck, Bowers, Green, Peterson, Amukamara or Quinn.

 

[az jam]

If we want to become a perennial playoff team we need to take the best players. Luck, Bowers, Green, Peterson, Amukamara or Quinn.

Can't really argue with sound logic but qb is so damn important and there are some good ones in the draft that are probably rated top ten but not top five.

 

[PJ1]

No way should we be buring a first rounder on Mallet, or Locker, or any other QB other than Luck - period!

It's very simple - our QB situaiton boils down to Luck or Skelton. If we can't grab Luck, then we keep Skelton and make a play for a seasoned FA in the offseason.
We then use our early round picks to fill the multitude of other glaring holes we possess.... name you're pick of the litter there, but QB ain't one of them if we miss out on Luck!

Have to agree with this.

 

[desertdawg]

That is part of the problem. Newton & Mallet are good but are they good enough to be a top 5 which is where we will pick. But can we really pass on them? Its a dilemma. We may have to reach and take one.

If we want to become a perennial playoff team we need to take the best players. Luck, Bowers, Green, Peterson, Amukamara or Quinn.

Can't really argue with sound logic but qb is so damn important and there are some good ones in the draft that are probably rated top ten but not top five.

I can't argue with none of this, I pretty sure I want Newton more than any one here on ASFN, but I can't see him going top 5, even if he spanks the Ducks all epic style.(and he will) And since we are most likely picking around the 3-6 spot(?), I really can't possibly see us picking Mallet that early.

So it's Skeltons job as far as how the draft will work out. Luck will still be mugging it up with his new hat/jersey for the media when the big bad Cards take their turn at the podium. Go Skelton! (or Newton )

 

[conraddobler]

Blaine Gabbert early in the 2nd a FA and Skelton would straight up IMO fix the QB spot.

I'm almost sure if he comes out Gabbert will go higher than that but if he did fall to us there that would be awesome.

We have to have one vet on the team, we'd need that even if we got Luck by some miracle.

Skelton is good enough I want to see him stay and get worked on, what's wrong with him is mainly correctable coachable things.

 

[D-Dogg]

I agree with conrad.

I want defense in the first...either one of the CBs or a pass rusher. Gimmee D.

 

[Duckjake]

I'm no scout, I just call what I see. Go back and read some of his draft bios. They all say the same thing that I see. I see a guy with some tools, but has got bad footwork a slow delivery and choppy feet. I don't mind him being a # 2, but I sure as hell would not pass up a top QB just because he looks better than DA.

Are you talking about chopping his stops as he drops back?

He sure didn't seem to have happy feet against Denver.

 

[conraddobler]

There's a whole new business out there where QB guru's come in and work with your QB in the offseason for pay, mostly they just work on their footwork and delivery, that's what Skelton needs, intensive reworking of his mechanics.

They aren't terrible but in today's NFL you need footwork above reproach and much faster deliveries or you just can't win, you don't have the time for errors in any of that, it has to be money every time.

You don't have to be Dan Marino in your delivery but it wouldn't hurt to work your way closer to that.

Whoever is our QB guru, I'd be lifting my eyebrow at them right now, cause if anyone claims they earned their paycheck there, I'd have to beg to differ IMO.

 

[conraddobler]

I agree with conrad.

I want defense in the first...either one of the CBs or a pass rusher. Gimmee D.

Yep and get a DC who knows players, it's a cheap form of adding to your scouting department.

I think you could work Skelton into a good QB, add a FA that is still got something in the tank and go.

This team isn't close enough or really bad enough to sell out for anything but a Luck caliber player that high.

 

[SuperSpck]

Just rewatched the first half of the Panthers game.

Locked on early, missed some super-open reads that were late developing (at least 3).

Lots of short combo routes. Lot of guys running routes in the same areas. No mistake, make in design, trying to make it easy on the kid. Did make for some bunching, which isn't the best.

Showed solid movement inside the pocket.

Got better as it got closer to halftime. By then the receivers decided to play the dropsies game (different from the cracker game, same lousy result).

Something about his throwing motion seems weird, but I'm not an expert on that sorta thing.