Sleeper pick at 20

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Ealy can't play OLB in our 3-4 scheme. Ford absolutely.

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at least he could play 3-4 defensive end,at dockett spot.
he is not quick ,they need a faster pass rusher
dee ford has to be in the mix for our first pick,but he is nothing good against the run
 

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Ealy can't play OLB in our 3-4 scheme. Ford absolutely.

right.
at least he could play 3-4 defensive end,at dockett spot.
he is not quick ,they need a faster pass rusher
dee ford has to be in the mix for our first pick,but he is nothing good against the run

You guys state this as it's absolute fact. While I'll give you that he would have a sharpe learning curve on the edge, check his measurables with Abrahams. They are very similar.

While Abraham Started out in a 4-3 with the Jets and Falcons he's been with different schemes here and it's worked out for him. Mario Williams in Buffalo as well.


With Bowles and OLB coach Mike Caldwell, who has already done excellent work transitioning both Abraham and Shaughnessy, I'm pretty sure they could do some really good work with Ealy as well. Especially used initially as a pass rushing specialist opposite Abraham. Then take over his spot in a year.
 

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Can't believe I haven't chipped in on this yet. NNOOOOOOOOOOO to a WR in the first two rounds. I don't even want one taken in the third.

If Lee or whoever is taken in rd 1 then say goodbye to Fitz. While some will say that's a good thing but I can't get on board with that.

Keep adding to the trenches and the D.
 
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Ealy can't play OLB in our 3-4 scheme. Ford absolutely.

right.
at least he could play 3-4 defensive end,at dockett spot.
he is not quick ,they need a faster pass rusher
dee ford has to be in the mix for our first pick,but he is nothing good against the run
I have my doubts about Dee Ford being in the mix for the Cards. He's 6'2 243 and that goes against what Bowles has looked for in the OLB's the Cards have used under him. It seems like Bowles likes 6'4 and about 260 for his ideal sized OLB's. I think the extra size helps with what Juza said, they can still play the run.
 

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I think a sleeper pick has to be someone that you didn’t see coming. I have some suggestions. Not saying I would choose any of these players at #20 but I wouldn't rule any of them out.

Travis Swanson, center, Arkansas

Arians and Keim has both said more than once that the team has to become more psychical in the trenches. I’m have no idea how the coaches graded out Sendlein this past season but I doubt they thought much of him from a physical standpoint. He doesn’t get much push in the run game.

Brett Bielema has called Swanson the best center he has coached, and though that might simply be coaches talk, I think there is some truth to it. The last couple of years Bielema has coached guys like Peter Konz and Travis Frederick, and both of them were selected in the first two rounds. I think Swanson is a better prospect as he can pass protect very well, run block his opponent completely out of the way, make combo-blocks, get to the second level with ease, and does it all with good technique.

Morgan Moses, offensive tackle, Virginia

A lot of people are fascinated by the athleticism of Greg Robinson out of Auburn but really, Moses is not that far behind. I actually think he might be a slightly better pass protector but might not be in Robinson’s league in run blocking. Moses is close to the definition of a dancing bear, and again, I could see him being a target because of the desire to get more psychical up front.
Kyle Fuller, cornerback, Virginia Tech

Now, Fuller might slide to the second round due to injuries. His talent is clearly better than that, though, and with him and Peterson on either side the two of them could alternately be the cover corner and more of a playmaking type cornerback. They both have those abilities, and simply having them back there would make the job easier at the defensive line and a lot harder at the quarterback.
 
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I think a sleeper pick has to be someone that you didn’t see coming. I have some suggestions. Not saying I would choose any of these players at #20 but I wouldn't rule any of them out.

Travis Swanson, center, Arkansas

Arians and Keim has both said more than once that the team has to become more psychical in the trenches. I’m have no idea how the coaches graded out Sendlein this past season but I doubt they thought much of him from a physical standpoint. He doesn’t get much push in the run game.

Brett Bielema has called Swanson the best center he has coached, and though that might simply be coaches talk, I think there is some truth to it. The last couple of years Bielema has coached guys like Peter Konz and Travis Frederick, and both of them were selected in the first two rounds. I think Swanson is a better prospect as he can pass protect very well, run block his opponent completely out of the way, make combo-blocks, get to the second level with ease, and does it all with good technique.

Morgan Moses, offensive tackle, Virginia

A lot of people are fascinated by the athleticism of Greg Robinson out of Auburn but really, Moses is not that far behind. I actually think he might be a slightly better pass protector but might not be in Robinson’s league in run blocking. Moses is close to the definition of a dancing bear, and again, I could see him being a target because of the desire to get more psychical up front.
Kyle Fuller, cornerback, Virginia Tech

Now, Fuller might slide to the second round due to injuries. His talent is clearly better than that, though, and with him and Peterson on either side the two of them could alternately be the cover corner and more of a playmaking type cornerback. They both have those abilities, and simply having them back there would make the job easier at the defensive line and a lot harder at the quarterback.
I like all those guys, especially Fuller, but I think they would be more in consideration for round 2. I guess that's what would make them sleepr picks in round 1 :).
 

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I have a couple of players in mind , but I am going to wait until we finish the combine , and pro-days workouts . I expect alot of names will re-shuffle up and down the boards before the draft .
 

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I have a couple of players in mind , but I am going to wait until we finish the combine , and pro-days workouts . I expect alot of names will re-shuffle up and down the boards before the draft .

How do you keep a great group of ASFN fans in suspense?

I'll tell you later!:D
 

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