So no Curry Per Coro:

[AsUdUdE]

on RealGM, IHG, take it for what it is worhtm but dude has been spot on for a lot of things about the suns over the past year or so, I personally believe him..

But he said the latest last night is the Suns gave GS an ultimatum of Curry or Randolph, otherwise the deal is off..

While it sucks, I think it is the right move...

ALSO apparently the Suns are working the phones HARD trying to trade JRich, they are making that a priority this summer.. no details yet, but they are apparently determined to move him....

It is not a deal that can happen for 60 days, but I personally would be ok with a JRich/Wallace for TMac/Filler.. The phoenix training staff could work wonders for TMac, and we will have a 22 million dollar expiring contract for next year...

Keep Amare, and roll the dice next year, unless we get another GODFATHER trade like the orginal GS

 

[Arizona's Finest]

It's all posturing at this point IMO.

Truth.

It was the Press conference welcoming Curry to the team. What did you expect Nelson to say? We will see whats truth and whats not on Wednesday.

Apparently the Curry family is completely against playing in GS too so that could force this thing by Wednesday too.

 

[Mulli]

Truth.

It was the Press conference welcoming Curry to the team. What did you expect Nelson to say? We will see whats truth and whats not on Wednesday.

Apparently the Curry family is completely against playing in GS too so that could force this thing by Wednesday too.

Good to know.

 

[overseascardfan]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/06/26/20090626spt-warriors.html

According to this article it looks like GS doesn't want to include Randolph or Curry. Not saying the deal is off but if this is true it will be. I thought Nellie wanted to get rid of Randoplh at mid-season after he put him in the dog house and benched him, I figured he be jumping at the chance to get rid of him.

Initially, I thought the package of Biedrens, Wright, Bellinelli & the #7 was a lot for GS to give up but now that they are re-neging anything less is unacceptable. As of now, the are offering just Biedrens, Wright & Bellinelli which ain't enough.

 

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I still don't think that this is set in stone. The whole wait until Wednesday is what's throwing everything out of whack. Ric Bucher already said that he thought GS was lying, and for all we know, this could just be posturing by the Warriors to try and fleece us out of Curry. Whatever it is, I'm taking everything with a grain of salt until Wednesday rolls around and the trade can actually go through.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

There have got to be other teams who are very interested in Amare and would have the goods to give it up for him.

I say the Suns start playing ball a little bit themselves and leak a potential Bulls or OKC deal.

All indications are the W's are the ones hot for Amare so lets call their bluff. They won't be s--- next year with what they have now and they know it.

 

[The Commish]

There have got to be other teams who are very interested in Amare and would have the goods to give it up for him.

I say the Suns start playing ball a little bit themselves and leak a potential Bulls or OKC deal.

All indications are the W's are the ones hot for Amare so lets call their bluff. They won't be s--- next year with what they have now and they know it.

Agree 100%.

 

[SirStefan32]

There have got to be other teams who are very interested in Amare and would have the goods to give it up for him.

I say the Suns start playing ball a little bit themselves and leak a potential Bulls or OKC deal.

All indications are the W's are the ones hot for Amare so lets call their bluff. They won't be s--- next year with what they have now and they know it.

Exactly. Everyone knows nelson has a hard on for Stoudemire.
If they want him, they'll not only include Curry, but whoever the hell we ask for.
Worst case scenario for the Suns- let Stoudemire opt out and they have themselves $17 Mil to spend.

Warriors need the Suns, not the other way around.

 

[Forrestham]

Exactly. Everyone knows nelson has a hard on for Stoudemire.
If they want him, they'll not only include Curry, but whoever the hell we ask for.
Worst case scenario for the Suns- let Stoudemire opt out and they have themselves $17 Mil to spend.

Warriors need the Suns, not the other way around.

The only thing worse is if he gets a microfracture again and decides not top opt out. Then we are stuck with millions of dead money

 

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Exactly. Everyone knows nelson has a hard on for Stoudemire.
If they want him, they'll not only include Curry, but whoever the hell we ask for.
Worst case scenario for the Suns- let Stoudemire opt out and they have themselves $17 Mil to spend.

Warriors need the Suns, not the other way around.

True, but the same could've been said about the Cavs. They absolutely needed to get Shaq, yet they gave up nothing. With this confederacy of dunces running the Suns, you never know what can happen.

 

[TheHopToad]

It does make you curious just how badly the Warriors lied to the Suns / reneged on the deal. Was it wishful thinking on our part? Or was there really an agreement, and then the Warriors went back on their word?

The agreement was in place before the draft and included the #7 pick, in which the Warriors would make the selection for the Suns. However, Golden State assumed that Curry would be long gone by then and they would draft Hill or Flynn for Phoenix.

When the Wolves didn't take Curry, everything changed. Phoenix got excited because they thought they had Curry in the deal, but the Warriors also wanted him and that's when they backed away from the deal as structured.

Once again, like the saying goes, when you assume, it makes an ass out of you and Steve Kerr...

 

[sunsallday]

Kerr, stop getting owned.

 

[TBaslim]

Screw GS. Wait this one out, Kerr. Stick to your guns for either Curry or Randolph and make them figure out how important Amare is to their future.

I don't think GS is in the running for max free agents next year anyway due to their payroll. So it they want Amare, this is their only shot. They have to trade now and extend him, or they don't get him ever.

So, Steve - Griff, take a few days off. Hang by the pool. Drink a beer after a good draft (Clark is a good pickup). Work some other alternative deals for Amare with other teams, and keep the Chandler option on the backburner if nothing pans out and Amare returns.

Make GS sweat and fight amongst themselves about how much they want to give up. Their dysfunction is their own problem, not ours (we have enough to worry about).

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

If it's Biedrins, Wright, Randolph, and a 2010 pick, I'm still okay with that. Both Wright and Randolph have shown some unusual potential.

The Warriors consider Randolph an untouchable, so that will not happen. If anything it will be Biedrins, Wright, Bellinelli, possibly Azubuike, and 2010 draft pick.

Warriors will not part with A.R.

 

[JerkFace]

If anything it will be Biedrins, Wright, Bellinelli, Azubuike, and 2010 1st round draft pick.

I would consider this trade. Quite frankly I don't think Golden State is a playoff team even with Stat. Hopefully we can find a better deal elsewhere, but if this is the best deal out there then I won't be overly pissed (I won't be thrilled either though). Next year is suppose to be a decent draft. A lot of people are enamored with Curry but quite frankly he was the #7 pick in a very weak draft.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

There have got to be other teams who are very interested in Amare and would have the goods to give it up for him.

I say the Suns start playing ball a little bit themselves and leak a potential Bulls or OKC deal.

All indications are the W's are the ones hot for Amare so lets call their bluff. They won't be s--- next year with what they have now and they know it.

The Suns are still in a position of weekness in any Amare trade becuase he has an opt out clause for next season, can walk away without getting a dime for him, teams would have to be assured a new contract would be hammered out, plus there are percieved injury concerns regarding Amare (justified or not).

 

[Arizona's Finest]

The Suns are still in a position of weekness in any Amare trade becuase he has an opt out clause for next season, can walk away without getting a dime for him, teams would have to be assured a new contract would be hammered out, plus there are percieved injury concerns regarding Amare (justified or not).

Any team that wants to work out a deal is going to have to worl out an extension. I am sure there are a number of teams STAT would sign on the dotted line for. In fact I think the biggest impasse between him and the Suns is he wants an extension and the Suns want no part of it. He wants that security.

The injury concerns are there to be sure. Always will. But if he passes the physical then what are you going to do?

I don't think they are in a postion of weakness at all. I think GS is the first team to show they are in love with the idea of acquiring Amare.

I think teams like Philly, Chicago, New York, OKC, and Houston should all be doing the same thing. He's a great fit on any of those teams.

So do the smart thing and start leaking other teams interest in him and start to generate some buzz so GS realizes they are up against it if they don't make the trade.

Besides being in a position of weakness and acting like you are in a postion of weakness are two different things.

Kerr needs to man up and stop looking like everyones whipping boy and sell Amare to the highest bidder or just make the decision to keep him and tell him to bust his ass until the deadline.

 

[devilalum]

F the Warriors!!!

They want the Suns All NBA, All Star PF but they don't want to give up anything to get him.

Fact: If the Warriors stick with what they have they will be in the lottery again next year.
Fact: Curry is not going to be a great player next season. (He may be great down the road but he will struggle next season)
Fact: The Warriors have been a lottery team struggling to get to the next level FOREVER.
Fact: Amare may be a free agent next summer but no way in hell he signs with GS if he's unrestricted.

If I was a GS fan I would want a STAR quality player to help get my team to the next level.

Fact: The Warriors aren't going to get a better player than Amare for the package they ORIGINALLY offered. Teams don't trade All Star Power Forwards!

There has to be a team out there like ATL that will make an offer equal to the Warriors original.

 

[devilalum]

Kerr needs to man up and stop looking like everyones whipping boy and sell Amare to the highest bidder or just make the decision to keep him and tell him to bust his ass until the deadline.

This is huge. IMO Amare is going to have a monster contract year with Shaq gone. If he's smart he'll go in and beg to play center where he puts up huge numbers.

 

[Covert Rain]

but I personally would be ok with a JRich/Wallace for TMac/Filler.. The phoenix training staff could work wonders for TMac, and we will have a 22 million dollar expiring contract for next year...

Why would you want a ball hogging, no defensive playing loser on this team? The guy almost plays as little defense as Nash and has to have the ball to be effective. Also, even though I think the training staff is great in Phoenix I wouldn't want to hang my hat on getting that guy to play an entire season.

No thank you. Houston can keep T-Mac or trade him to another Western Conference team.

 

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Why would you want a ball hogging, no defensive playing loser on this team? The guy almost plays as little defense as Nash and has to have the ball to be effective. Also, even though I think the training staff is great in Phoenix I wouldn't want to hang my hat on getting that guy to play an entire season.

No thank you. Houston can keep T-Mac or trade him to another Western Conference team.

Exactly. If we're going to tak a flyer out on an injury prone player, I'd much rather see Elton Brand than T-Mac.

 

[jandaman]

The agreement was in place before the draft and included the #7 pick, in which the Warriors would make the selection for the Suns. However, Golden State assumed that Curry would be long gone by then and they would draft Hill or Flynn for Phoenix.

When the Wolves didn't take Curry, everything changed. Phoenix got excited because they thought they had Curry in the deal, but the Warriors also wanted him and that's when they backed away from the deal as structured.

Once again, like the saying goes, when you assume, it makes an ass out of you and Steve Kerr...

I dont get that if the SUNS and Warriors had a deal for No.7, Suns would of told them to pick Curry for them.

Warriors thinking, great, they want then player we wanted all along but thought no chance of getting so we traded the pick to begin with..

then BAM, Curry is there at 7... Suns happy... Warriors surprised.. took the player they wanted and stabbed the Suns on the back as they ran out.

 

[AsUdUdE]

According to multiple sources, most of them from the bay area, the Deal is officially DEAD... HOWEVER Paul Coro denies this saying they are not dead.. YET

Apparently the Suns gave GS an Ultimatium of Curry or Randolph, and when they said neither the Suns Walked away...

I guess this is good news...

 

[Covert Rain]

We got punked by Golden State. Especially if the rumors are true that the Suns 2nd pick would have been different had no deal been in place for the 7th. What is the world coming to when you get punked by Golden State?

If the Suns make any kind of trade that doesn't involve Curry or Randolf this front office has solidified itself in the short Sarver/Kerr era as one of the worst in basketball.

 

[Mainstreet]

If the Suns make any kind of trade that doesn't involve Curry or Randolf this front office has solidified itself in the short Sarver/Kerr era as one of the worst in basketball.

I thought Sarver/ Kerr had already solidified this role. It doesn't surprise me the Suns did not have this trade package wrapped up tight with a firm verbal agreement. The Suns FO has proven themselves incompetent many times over.