Somers Reports 49ers Appear To Be Serious About Kurt: Set Up Meeting

[Assface]

I'm sure Warner would like to have a 5 pick game like Romo or Peyton and his team still win (or should have if not for a short missed FG).

Peyton Manning has never won a game with more than 2 interceptions. Romo had a 5 pick game last year where the Cowboys beat a terrible Bills team by 1 point. Outside of that one game, interceptions = losing.

 

[Duckjake]

I think he "can" deal with it. Obviously so as you stated. But he has specifically stated that he doesn't "want" to deal with it and it takes away from why he plays the game. Everyone strives for perfection but to require such a small margin of error from the QB position is understandably grueling.

I'm sure Warner would like to have a 5 pick game like Romo or Peyton and his team still win (or should have if not for a short missed FG).

Then why do you keep saying that "worrying" about his status is affecting Kurt's play? It's obvious the guy is as resilient as any QB ever to play in the NFL.

The Cards were 18-30 Kurt's first 3 years with the team. If he had such an easily bruised ego they'd have never sniffed the post season in 2008.

 

[moklerman]

The only "games" I'm aware of are when he was benched when his play deserved it. Is there something else you're thinking of?

How about the drafting of Leinart? Naming Leinart the starting coming into this year? The team and fans never seem to be really committed to him as the starter. Warner's fine for now but let's get the Leinart era started.

So we're not as good a team as the Pats, therefore we don't deserve to treated fairly? Is that what you're saying?

What? I wish I had the luxury of front office moves that Patriots fans have. When does that organization ever make a wrong move? I can't stand them but I think it would be nice to know that they're probably going to get it right and have good, solid FA's who are willing to play there for less than they would play elsewhere.

I meant you posting on here actually.

It might please you to know that posting here is some of the most aggravating and frustrating conversation I've ever had. I'm really not sure what you old guard really want. New fans suck, Warner fans suck, casual fans suck, little old lady fans suck...I guess when the 12,000 of you that went to all the original Phoenix games die out there won't be any true fans left at all.

Well thats not true. Some of us are hoping for the best with the kid.

I think most are "hoping" for the best but the reality is, unless he never misses a game, completes 100% of this passes at 99 yards per attempt with no run after the catch, with no interceptions, never gets sacked, leads the team to 12 consecutive undefeated seasons, 12 Super Bowl titles and refuses to be paid while doing it, he is going to get blasted just like every other QB the Cardinals have had in the past 20 years.

 

[D-Dogg]

Ironically, that would be right after the last playoff appearance 10 years ago when they gave a big contract to the QB who led them there.

I keep thinking of that over and over while I watch people jabber about "pay Kurt..give him what he wants!"

 

[moklerman]

Outside of that one game, interceptions = losing.

That's not true at all. Many QB's have won many games where they threw 2 or 3 picks or had bad first halfs or whatever.

Then why do you keep saying that "worrying" about his status is affecting Kurt's play?

I haven't. I'm not even arguing that I think the situation is affecting him one way or the other as much as passing along what he himself has said. He said more than once last year that the pressure of feeling like he had to play mistake free football was wearing on him. He desired a little slack when it came to having a bad day. I think he also feels like he's always on a short leash.

 

[moklerman]

I keep thinking of that over and over while I watch people jabber about "pay Kurt..give him what he wants!"

It doesn't really compare. I would find it pretty hard to argue in favor of a QB that didn't complete 60% of his passes, had a TD% of 3.1, threw more interceptions than touchdowns and had a rating of 75.0. I think that many don't see much of a difference between Warner and Plummer though.

 

[Stout]

It doesn't really compare. I would find it pretty hard to argue in favor of a QB that didn't complete 60% of his passes, had a TD% of 3.1, threw more interceptions than touchdowns and had a rating of 75.0. I think that many don't see much of a difference between Warner and Plummer though.

You're right, it doesn't compare. Jake was young and was supposed to be our QB for the next 10+ years.

 

[Stout]

What do you mean by the entire season? It's not like Warner was continually struggling with inconsistent play and just got hot in the playoffs. And what about Leinart's repeated injuries, gradual decline in play, inability to grasp the plays, questionable work habits and subpar play in '08 makes you feel good about him? I'm scared as hell about his ability to stay healthy and have no clue who the real Leinart is on the field.

Caving in is one thing, being frugal is another. They have had to expand their offer just to get to the $10M range.

Gee, I would figure 2 years at 20 million IS EXACTLY the 10 million range.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

No, they expanded thier offer to exceed 10 million...

 

[D-Dogg]

It doesn't really compare. I would find it pretty hard to argue in favor of a QB that didn't complete 60% of his passes, had a TD% of 3.1, threw more interceptions than touchdowns and had a rating of 75.0. I think that many don't see much of a difference between Warner and Plummer though.

And both of them would play 2 more years with us, probably not well.

Doesn't matter what their stats are...in this discussion, the only stat that matters is $.

 

[ajcardfan]

You're right, it doesn't compare. Jake was young and was supposed to be our QB for the next 10+ years.

The thing about Jake's contract was it actually put us right at the cap instantly and we stayed there. Whether Kurt signs today or next week, for 10 mil or 14 mil, it doesn't cripple our ablility to make moves. We can handle either number.

 

[D-Dogg]

The thing about Jake's contract was it actually put us right at the cap instantly and we stayed there. Whether Kurt signs today or next week, for 10 mil or 14 mil, it doesn't cripple our ablility to make moves. We can handle either number.

This is true.

 

[CardsFan88]

It was also longer than 2 years. God I can't remember if it was a 6 or a 7 year deal. If warner weren't to play up to our expectations, (like plummer did in not progressing much) we wouldn't be locked in for a long time to drastically effect us. That's one of the main reasons I feel it's less risky to open the bank for him if needed. Good or bad he's off the books in 2 years.