Sound Of Freedom

[Covert Rain]

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[Covert Rain]

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[Shane]

I don’t know here just spit balling… Other than the fact that you can see it for free and those seats were possibly reserved and had no shows? The money made is where the actual attendance estimates should be taken from not free ticket reservations. Only thing I could possibly think of. Why would a movie corporation fudge the numbers what would they have to gain?

I could see them reserving seats with dummy/fake reservations maybe? Never know

 

[Covert Rain]

I don’t know here just spit balling… Other than the fact that you can see it for free and those seats were possibly reserved and had no shows? The money made is where the actual attendance estimates should be taken from not free ticket reservations. Only thing I could possibly think of. Why would a movie corporation fudge the numbers what would they have to gain?

I could see them reserving seats with dummy/fake reservations maybe? Never know

All they have been crowing about is how this movie beat Indiana Jones and other blockbusters. They have been crowing how people are clamoring to see this movie. It also would boost the prospects of wood be investors to future films from this studio and filmmakers. They have a ton to gain from this. If Angel studios or "affiliates" are using their own money to boost attendance and ticket sales numbers that is a big deal. Keep in mind not everyone is getting free tickets either.

 

[Shane]

All they have been crowing about is how this movie beat Indiana Jones and other blockbusters. They have been crowing how people are clamoring to see this movie. It also would boost the prospects of wood be investors to future films from this studio and filmmakers. They have a ton to gain from this. If Angel studios or "affiliates" are using their own money to boost attendance and ticket sales numbers that is a big deal. Keep in mind not everyone is getting free tickets either.

I was referring to AMC/Cinemark etc…. But I supposed Angel could buy tickets with their own bankroll. Nothing shocks me nowadays.

 

[Covert Rain]

I was referring to AMC/Cinemark etc…. But I supposed Angel could buy tickets with their own bankroll. Nothing shocks me nowadays.

Oh gotcha! You can't reserve seats without paying for them in any theater that I know. They are either purchased or not no? By the way, I think these conspiracy stories of theaters sabotaging screenings, according to the QAnon crowd, to empty theaters MAKES SO MUCH SENSE now. Think about it. If they knew this was going to get out? You put conspiracy theories out there to explain the empty theaters despite it allegedly being a huge hit.

This is just getting weirder and weirder.

Box Office Hit ‘Sound Of Freedom’ Controversy—Including QAnon Ties And False Claims Theaters Are Sabotaging Screenings—Explained

The film’s lead actor has previously endorsed conspiracy theories and reportedly spoken at several QAnon events.

www.forbes.com

 

[Covert Rain]

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[Brian in Mesa]

We saw it in a mostly packed theater. No one ever sits up close like we do (center of row 1 or 2) but the rest of the theater was packed on the 4th of July. Many people clapped at the end, but we did not. The movie was so dark and serious that clapping felt oddly out of place.

 

[Covert Rain]

We saw it in a mostly packed theater. No one ever sits up close like we do (center of row 1 or 2) but the rest of the theater was packed on the 4th of July. Many people clapped at the end, but we did not. The movie was so dark and serious that clapping felt oddly out of place.

My neighbor went to see it and said it was about 70% full but sold out. I didn't think twice about it until all the stuff above about fake tickets sales starting coming out. He said it was pretty dark and when he left it was just dead silent. However, he said his wife did a bunch of research on the story and said there was a bunch of stuff that wasn't true in the movie. I have not seen it so I have no clue what they are talking about. I told them not to tell me because once it hits streaming for free I will watch it out of morbid curiosity.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

My neighbor went to see it and said it was about 70% full but sold out. I didn't think twice about it until all the stuff above starting coming out. He said it was pretty dark and when he left it was just dead silent. However, he said his wife did a bunch of research on the story and said there was a bunch of stuff that wasn't true in the movie. I have not seen it so I have no clue what they are talking about. I told them not to tell me because once it hits streaming for free I will watch it out of morbid curiosity.

This is nothing new. Ballard himself fact-checked it and said some of the stuff was changed or embellished for Hollywood purposes. It is no different than with most "based on a true story" films. Like American Made with Tom Cruise based on real person Barry Seal. Its director Doug Liman has referred to it as “a fun lie based on a true story."

 

[Covert Rain]

This is nothing new. Ballard himself fact-checked it and said some of the stuff was changed or embellished for Hollywood purposes. It is no different than with most "based on a true story" films. Like American Made with Tom Cruise based on real person Barry Seal. Its director Doug Liman has referred to it as “a fun lie based on a true story."

The big difference is that most Hollywood movies in this vein make it no secret and don't try to sell it as something you must see for the seriousness of the subject matter then tell audiences it's being suppressed because they don't want you to see it.

Big difference.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The whole point of the movie is to expose what is going on in the world with child sex-trafficking and not to nail every detail of one man's life. He is not even the main focus of the movie as you're watching it. It's always about the kids and those wanting to do them harm, IMHO.

 

[Covert Rain]

The whole point of the movie is to expose what is going on in the world with child sex-trafficking and not to nail every detail of one man's life. He is not even the main focus of the movie as you're watching it. It's always about the kids and those wanting to do them harm, IMHO.

But that's not the ONLY point of the movie when you have been promoting it by accusing Hollywood of being complicit and wanting to silence the movie as a result. They are taking advantage of a REAL issue to push another agenda. Again...big difference and why you can't compare them to other Hollywood movies in the "Based on a true story" vein.

Again...I ask why is that necessary? Why not let the movie stand on it's own merit if it has a message worth seeing?!?!!? Why fake ticket sales?!?

This movie has more baggage than an airport.

 

[Town Drunk]

The whole point of the movie is to expose what is going on in the world with child sex-trafficking and not to nail every detail of one man's life. He is not even the main focus of the movie as you're watching it. It's always about the kids and those wanting to do them harm, IMHO.

I haven’t seen the film, but I read that it’s about two children getting kidnapped and sold in to slavery? That happens, but it’s pretty rare. I sit on my county’s CSEC MDT. Most survivors are groomed over a period of time or they get involved by someone they know. Kidnapping doesn’t really happen right off the bat. They’ll establish trust with the survivor first before flipping the switch.

 

[Russ Smith]

Sound of Freedom now being accused of boosting tickets sales artificially to make it sound more successful then it is. People are posting stories and video evidence of theaters showing sold out but largely empty. Video:

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Late to the party but the right wingers are claiming it's because "they" don't want you to see the movie so they're telling you it's sold out but it's not.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I haven’t seen the film, but I read that it’s about two children getting kidnapped and sold in to slavery? That happens, but it’s pretty rare. I sit on my county’s CSEC MDT. Most survivors are groomed over a period of time or they get involved by someone they know. Kidnapping doesn’t really happen right off the bat. They’ll establish trust with the survivor first before flipping the switch.

The movie is not set in the United States for about 85% or more of the movie. The abductions, etc. all happen somewhere else. That’s why it is mostly subtitled too.

 

[Covert Rain]

Late to the party but the right wingers are claiming it's because "they" don't want you to see the movie so they're telling you it's sold out but it's not.

Like I said, tons of baggage with this film. Then they wonder why nobody wants to see these films. Stop with the insanity. Let the film stand on it's own merits and stop taking advantage of stories to push an agenda.

 

[Devilmaycare]

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This is the same conspiracy theory that I've seen leveled at Disney for a bunch of movies. It started with Captain Marvel IIRC. People were posting empty theaters and saying the websites were showing (nearly) sold out.

I'm not buying it with either one. Disney I could see maybe if they wanted to dump like a bunch of the marketing budget like that. But even that is a huge stretch.

I wonder if part of what's going on here is the pay it forward thing they're doing. People are buying tickets and then no one claims them. This also feels like a stretch but it's the best I can come up with.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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I’m guessing Koch

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Oh gotcha! You can't reserve seats without paying for them in any theater that I know. They are either purchased or not no? By the way, I think these conspiracy stories of theaters sabotaging screenings, according to the QAnon crowd, to empty theaters MAKES SO MUCH SENSE now. Think about it. If they knew this was going to get out? You put conspiracy theories out there to explain the empty theaters despite it allegedly being a huge hit.

This is just getting weirder and weirder.

Box Office Hit ‘Sound Of Freedom’ Controversy—Including QAnon Ties And False Claims Theaters Are Sabotaging Screenings—Explained

The film’s lead actor has previously endorsed conspiracy theories and reportedly spoken at several QAnon events.

www.forbes.com

Omg this is ridiculous. But then again, so is all of Qanon.

 

[Covert Rain]

This is the same conspiracy theory that I've seen leveled at Disney for a bunch of movies. It started with Captain Marvel IIRC. People were posting empty theaters and saying the websites were showing (nearly) sold out.

I'm not buying it with either one. Disney I could see maybe if they wanted to dump like a bunch of the marketing budget like that. But even that is a huge stretch.

I wonder if part of what's going on here is the pay it forward thing they're doing. People are buying tickets and then no one claims them. This also feels like a stretch but it's the best I can come up with.

With Disney they don't have to worry about movie to movie finances like Angel studios. Angel studios on the other hand almost solely lives off of it's niche fan base and it's reputation with them.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I was referring to AMC/Cinemark etc…. But I supposed Angel could buy tickets with their own bankroll. Nothing shocks me nowadays.

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Right wingers do this with the NY Times bestseller list all the time. Buy up a bunch of the books themselves to make them appear more popular than they are.

 

[Covert Rain]

Was listening to a show this morning. Evidently, the makers of the film encouraged Churches to buy the tickets in bulk or wealthy QAnon individuals to skew the movie's performance.

 

[jf-08]

I'm confused. If tickets are bought...tickets are bought ... whether it be this flick or Captain Marvel.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Was listening to a show this morning. Evidently, the makers of the film encouraged Churches to buy the tickets in bulk or wealthy QAnon individuals to skew the movie's performance.

I don't think it is anything diabolical like that. Every time there is a "faith-based" film coming out it is mentioned in churches all over the country. They always want people to go see it in the theaters one of the first two weeks of release because that is what makes the most impact on the box office and will help get more similar films made and released. There are many Christians who still don't go to the theaters because they feel supporting one film (a good wholesome movie) still supports the other films they don't want to see (the R-rated raunchy stuff, etc.). This movie even mentions in the post-credit commentary that it was meant to be seen in the theater where an audience could focus on the subject matter and really let it sink in without everyday distractions, etc. that come with streaming something at home. We're glad we saw it in a theater, but as I have said before it is a one-time watch. No one is going to be seeing this film like Titanic or a Star Wars film - and that's not the intent anyway.

As I said after I saw it - you wouldn't even know it was faith-based unless someone told you. There's drinking, cussing, smoking, and tons of other worldly things which make it feel just like any other film. I know it isn't technically a Christian film since Caviezel is Catholic and it's based on an LDS guy in Ballard. Heck, Angel Studios was founded and is still run by some LDS brothers who crowd-fund/equity-fund projects in order to offer free streaming of their platform to viewers.