Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

taz02

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I know nothing about Butler, but energy and stepping up in big games is something the suns desperately need.

As far as trading picks, it's not ideal, but picks are not as critical to a rebuild if you have an owner willing to spend big when the time comes.
 

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The Suns at Thunder game will be nationally televised on February 5th.

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Suns are far from being a contender. I thought that was his plan. I am not so sure Matty knows what he is doing. I could be wrong but the proof is in the pudding ;)
Mark Cuban started out the same way for the Mavericks. Things got better. There is no reason to think the same thing won't happen here. Mat mastered the mortgage business and now he's working on mastering the NBA business. These things don't always happen overnight.
 

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The Suns at Thunder game will be nationally televised on February 5th.

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this makes it sound like the nba knows we're going to have some new exciting line up - because who in their right minds would want to watch what we currently have
 

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Mark Cuban started out the same way for the Mavericks. Things got better. There is no reason to think the same thing won't happen here. Mat mastered the mortgage business and now he's working on mastering the NBA business. These things don't always happen overnight.
we didn't get our frivolous billionaire till after the league restricted frivolity
 

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this makes it sound like the nba knows we're going to have some new exciting line up - because who in their right minds would want to watch what we currently have

It certainly sounds that way.

Either the Suns are making their way upriver or looking to tumble over the nearest water fall.
 

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Jimmy Butler is an all-star player and he provides the toughness the Suns sorely need not only in the backcourt but the front court as well.

At 35, he should be good for a two-year extension, which fits the Suns window of 2-3 years. IMO, we should be thinking about a championship window if the Suns trade for him.

The Suns weakness is in the front court and if the Suns can add a 4/5 in a spinoff trade this should greatly improve their playoff chances.

Edit: Another way to look at it, the Suns would gain some leadership they lost with Chris Paul's departure.
There is no window.

That is like saying the Atlanta Hawks or the Warriors have a window - it just sounds stupid to anyone but a biased Suns fan.
 

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There is no window.

That is like saying the Atlanta Hawks or the Warriors have a window - it just sounds stupid to anyone but a biased Suns fan.

I'd recommend you call Mat Ishbia, James Jones, the Suns front office and other NBA teams promptly with this information.
 

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I have to say this respect Butler gets constantly baffles me.

He has had a few good playoff games and somehow people think he can work miracles. Make no mistake making this Suns team into a contender would require a miracle.

He did take the 8th seeded Heat to the finals?
 

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I'd recommend you call Mat Ishbia, James Jones, the Suns front office and other NBA teams promptly with this information.
Why don't you ask a fan of literally any other team who has played against us if they think we have a "window". Even Lakers fans would laugh at that and they are so cocky they always think they have a window.

I know Suns management thinks we do - why do you think I keep calling them idiots.
 

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Why don't you ask a fan of literally any other team who has played against us if they think we have a "window". Even Lakers fans would laugh at that and they are so cocky they always think they have a window.

I know Suns management thinks we do - why do you think I keep calling them idiots.

I bet a lot of teams were thinking the same about the 2020-21 Suns as well.
 

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My favorite Jimmy Butler story is taking the bench guys and beating the crap out of the starters in practice when he was in Minnesota.
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Yeah in the bubble, when the sorry Lakers won the whole thing. If you think that doesn't have a gigantic asterisk I don't know what to tell you.
Uh… that was 2 years ago he took the Heat to the Finals as an 8 seed.

They were a 4 or 5 seed in the bubble.
 
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