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Did he make a difference when he played?

No.

Gasol made him his b**ch.

Every other big man dominated him too.

Did I ever say he did make a difference when he played?

No.

That other guy was making it out like Lopez was to blame for our last 3 losses, which isn't fair because he didn't even play.

And of course Gasol is going to outplay Robin no matter how good he's playing. Gasol is an allstar caliber player.
 
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Charlotte's Boris Diaw, acquired in that trade, had a season-high 26 points, and Stephen Jackson recorded the club's first triple-double (24 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists).

Asked how hard a triple-double is to come by, Charlotte's Gerald Wallace said, "Against Phoenix, not that hard."

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Robin Lopez has been an incredible disappointment so far this season.

Maybe as bad as Hedo and Earl Clark since he still doesn't get solid playing time.

I can't believe that Earl Clark would do less than what Hedo provides us.

What a failure this offseason was the nightmare scenario is starting to become reality. A team stuck in mediocrity without a single young player to look forward to as the future of the team.

Not to mention we will never get rid off Hedo again without trading at least 2 first round picks.
 

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Not to mention we will never get rid off Hedo again without trading at least 2 first round picks.

I think we can thank Lon Babby for this move. Also where is Lance Blanks getting all these third tier bigs? I thought he was brought to the Suns to scout NBA talent.
 

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He averaged 11 boards a game last season with NY who runs a similar system to us.

... In 7 games at the end of a season where they played mostly scrubs because the team wasn't getting into the playoffs. You can't ignore that.

Basically regular season garbage time.
 

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... In 7 games at the end of a season where they played mostly scrubs because the team wasn't getting into the playoffs. You can't ignore that.

Basically regular season garbage time.
I still think he's better rebounder than any of our current PFs or Cs.
 

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I still think he's better rebounder than any of our current PFs or Cs.

He may be a great rebounder, but he also probably isn't very effective after 10 minutes and certainly doesn't know our system enough to be put in a starting role.

He played against Orlando's starters a few days ago and while he didn't look completely lost, he didn't really add anything and his rebounding didn't stand out at all.
 

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He may be a great rebounder, but he also probably isn't very effective after 10 minutes and certainly doesn't know our system enough to be put in a starting role.

He played against Orlando's starters a few days ago and while he didn't look completely lost, he didn't really add anything and his rebounding didn't stand out at all.
You are right about needing playing time to acclimate to a new situation. It's funny how fans expect a player to step back into the greatest basketball league in the world (even with his good showing with the Knicks during last season's garbage time) and immediately produce at a high level.

This is the still the time of the season for a coach to make a decision about putting a balanced team on the court and and letting it play out for the stretch and the post-season.

Unless, of course, if the philosophy is to tank it. Then, Gentry is a scapegoat for the front office, who would make that decision . . . but not making any decision, other than, status quo.
 

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He may be a great rebounder, but he also probably isn't very effective after 10 minutes and certainly doesn't know our system enough to be put in a starting role.

He played against Orlando's starters a few days ago and while he didn't look completely lost, he didn't really add anything and his rebounding didn't stand out at all.
True but when your team is getting blown out left & right, you have to try new things even if it is an unorthodox way.
 

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g. wallace really said that?
wow.

Although it's especially appropriate now I suspect he was talking about the fact that we are an uptempo team which leads to more possessions, more points, more assists and more rebounds.

Steve
 

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Although it's especially appropriate now I suspect he was talking about the fact that we are an uptempo team which leads to more possessions, more points, more assists and more rebounds.

Steve

Whatever he meant, that was a diss and the sad thing is, he is right.
You know, this reminds me of last season when the Suns turned it around after Terry made that half-time comments that "this guys don't play defense". The Suns came back out and beat the mavericks that day and turned the season around. It was said that a print of that Terry comment was displayed in the locker room :).

If only that can happen again this season, but the Suns dont even have the right personnel to pull it off.
 

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Remind me which starting-caliber PF was available instead? Unless you wanted to keep Stoudemire, that is.
 

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And therefore Sarver is ultimately who to blame.

I guess trusting the guys you hire to run the team is a bad move, eh? I'm not saying it's a good move, but Sarver isn't everybody's dad here. If he puts a guy he trusts in a high position and he says that we need and can use Hedo, why wouldn't Sarver say no?
 

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I guess trusting the guys you hire to run the team is a bad move, eh? I'm not saying it's a good move, but Sarver isn't everybody's dad here. If he puts a guy he trusts in a high position and he says that we need and can use Hedo, why wouldn't Sarver say no?

It is when the guy admits he's not a basketball genius.
 

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Luis Scola, David Lee to name a couple.

How do you propose the Suns would have gotten either of them, with basically no tradeable assets? They didn't have the room to sign either outright.

Edit: I wrote too quickly. They could have put together a decent offer if either player especially wanted to come to the Suns, but there was no evidence of that.
 
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