Suns close to buyout agreement for Dragic!

[Irish]

This should be a new thread.

 

[HooverDam]

Im confused, he says he needs to finish his 3 year contract, what year of that is he in now? I think he's going into his 3rd year, so the Suns would have him next year, is this correct?

 

[Griffin]

Im confused, he says he needs to finish his 3 year contract, what year of that is he in now? I think he's going into his 3rd year, so the Suns would have him next year, is this correct?

I am not sure myself, but next summer there was supposed to be a buyout available, so it cannot be his final year yet. Isn't this going to be his first year with TAU anyway? Could it be that the Suns won't see him until 2011?

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Epic Failure Kerr. We probably lowballed him with buyout incentive.

 

[Andrew]

Well...that sucks.

 

[nashman]

Another great move by our poor GM!

 

[shazaam6]

It is not Kerr's fault. Kerr opened the doors, Dragic is choosing not to come here.

 

[nashman]

^BS its Kerrs fault they used draft pick on someone that wouldn't be here. Lots of players that could have been picked instead of drafting a Euro. Defend Kerr all you want he has done NOTHING for this organization so far, NOTHING!

 

[LV-Suns]

^ I will agree with that for a little. Not that there was so many other options at that pick. I wish we could have picked someone like Bill Walker Richard Hendrix, who could contribute right away.

 

[shazaam6]

^BS its Kerrs fault they used draft pick on someone that wouldn't be here. Lots of players that could have been picked instead of drafting a Euro. Defend Kerr all you want he has done NOTHING for this organization so far, NOTHING!

Really?
What if Dragic changes his mind and comes over this year? Does that change what you think of Kerr?
So does Kerr's approval depend on Dragic's decision?
How can Kerr control Dragic's decision making?

Should Kerr have picked someone else? Who specifically?

Anyone? Who did we miss out on drafting after the 45th pick? If they don't fit they won't play.

We can still sign a free agent. Dragic comes over next year. All is not lost.

Remember Nash need a little rest but he will still play 30-34 minutes a game.

 

[SirStefan32]

Epic Failure Kerr. We probably lowballed him with buyout incentive.

I would say that this particular fail warrants a fail picture.

 

[CardinalsFan11]

Epic Failure Kerr. We probably lowballed him with buyout incentive.

All offseason we knew that the probability of Dragic coming over this season was small. So to say that Kerr failed is ********.

 

[arwillan]

Really?
What if Dragic changes his mind and comes over this year? Does that change what you think of Kerr?
So does Kerr's approval depend on Dragic's decision?
How can Kerr control Dragic's decision making?

Should Kerr have picked someone else? Who specifically?

Anyone? Who did we miss out on drafting after the 45th pick? If they don't fit they won't play.

We can still sign a free agent. Dragic comes over next year. All is not lost.

Remember Nash need a little rest but he will still play 30-34 minutes a game.

why not Mike Taylor?

 

[shazaam6]

Forget it. I give up. Where is the highest bridge so I can jump off?

 

[nashman]

How about you tell me something positive Kerr has done for the Suns? I mean seriously we hear interest in guys and bam they are signing with someone else over and over and over. Kerrs' GM career has been nothing short of failure.

 

[Chaplin]

How about you tell me something positive Kerr has done for the Suns? I mean seriously we hear interest in guys and bam they are signing with someone else over and over and over. Kerrs' GM career has been nothing short of failure.

Grant Hill.

I'm one of the minority that thinks the Shaq trade wasn't a failure.

Matt Barnes.

Drafting DJ.

 

[shazaam6]

It takes money to sign players. How much money does Kerr have to offer. Vet. Minimum is all we hear. He signed Barnes.

Drafted a true 7' center who looks promising as a defender and may have more offensive game than previously thought. Went after a potential starting guard with a second round pick.

Drafted DJ and Tucker who are still around and may contribute this year. Found a Coach who looks like a good fit.

Nothing has even begun to be played out yet.

Kerr a failure? Hold yourself up to your own standards. Who would you have drafted? Let's see if Kerr picks guys who fail.

I'll ask you:
What is your problem with the Barnes signing?
What is your problem with the Lopez pick?
What is your problem with going after backup/potential starting point with a late second round pick?
What is your problem with the choice of Coach Terry Porter?
What is the problem with DJ and Tucker? They never really played yet.
Shaun Marion and Marcus Banks for Shaq. With a new coach who will utilize the players strengths instead of his

this is pointless.......later dude.

 

[CardinalsFan11]

How about you tell me something positive Kerr has done for the Suns? I mean seriously we hear interest in guys and bam they are signing with someone else over and over and over. Kerrs' GM career has been nothing short of failure.

He's been the GM for one season, do you really think you can objectively judge his career after one season?

Kerr has done plenty of good things, he hasn't sold draft picks, he's managed the salary cap well and he's slowly rebuilding the team while keeping us competitive.

Everyone needs to step off the ledge about the FA's that have passed us by this summer. Remember it's only Lue and Williams, not Magic and Stockton. Plus, it's hard to say those guys spurned us because of Kerr, it's more likely those guys signed deals elsewhere because of the presence of Steve Nash. Remember, they are signing one year deals with the hopes of playing themselves into another contract. It's hard to do that when Nash is getting all the playing time.

Additionally, we all knew that Dragic wasn't coming over this season. The front office said as much right after they drafted him, but because some obscure international articles hinted at the idea Dragic might come over, everyone got their hopes up. Now that the inevitable has happened, everyone is blaming Kerr who said all along it was a longshot at best.

There are a lot of GM's in the NBA who have been a lot worse for a lot longer. I think everyone seems to forget that.

 

[nashman]

I was just frustrated earlier, I do like the Barnes signing, and Grant Hill, we shall see if the Lopez kid works out. The Shaq trade is not a positive in my eyes unless it ends up helping advance in the playoffs, I will not say this was a good or bad move, need a season to see Shaq fully integrated. Terry Porter is a bit of an unknown I know as a fan I am excited to see how it plays out, I would be more excited if we had some sort of back up PG for our MVP!

 

[Chaplin]

I was just frustrated earlier, I do like the Barnes signing, and Grant Hill, we shall see if the Lopez kid works out. The Shaq trade is not a positive in my eyes unless it ends up helping advance in the playoffs, I will not say this was a good or bad move, need a season to see Shaq fully integrated. Terry Porter is a bit of an unknown I know as a fan I am excited to see how it plays out, I would be more excited if we had some sort of back up PG for our MVP!

Well, Shawn Marion certainly wasn't going to give us a championship, so I'm not sure what you have to compare it to right now. I'd say it isn't an overwhelming success, but it's not a failure either.

 

[Mainstreet]

Kerr has done plenty of good things, he hasn't sold draft picks, he's managed the salary cap well and he's slowly rebuilding the team while keeping us competitive.

What do you call Kerr moving KT and two first round draft picks to get rid of his contract. No matter how you spin it, it amounts to selling draft picks. I think two first round draft picks converts into 6 million dollars plus the value of KT. Then KT gets turned into another first round draft pick for Seattle.

 

[Mainstreet]

... Should Kerr have picked someone else? Who specifically?

Anyone? Who did we miss out on drafting after the 45th pick? If they don't fit they won't play.

We can still sign a free agent. Dragic comes over next year. All is not lost.

Remember Nash need a little rest but he will still play 30-34 minutes a game.

Maybe the Suns could have traded their second round pick and GS's second round pick plus $500,000- $1,000,000 and gotten Chalmers?

 

[nowagimp]

Maybe the Suns could have traded their second round pick and GS's second round pick plus $500,000- $1,000,000 and gotten Chalmers?

Yeah, that sounds pretty good to me. Chalmers looks like he may be a pretty good backup, with ice in his veins under the gun. I would also take pargo if that deal can be done somehow.

 

[Chaplin]

Maybe the Suns could have traded their second round pick and GS's second round pick plus $500,000- $1,000,000 and gotten Chalmers?

That sounds great, but what makes you think an opposing team would do that? The Suns can't just come up with a deal out of their hat and get it done. It takes two to tango.

There's nothing easier than armchair GMing. And there's nothing harder than ACTUAL GMing.

 

[Irish]

My only complaint was that Kerr should have kept the negoitaitons secret. This was the most likely outcome and he could have done more to throw cold water on our expectations. Also, it may have scrared off guys like J-Will.

None the less, if they think Dragic is that good, waiting a year or two is not the end of the world. If memory serves, I think the Spurs had to wait on Manu and Parker.

Early on, I thiught maybe spending time with Tau might be a better use of Gordan's time than D-League. It worked for Calderon.

In any case, I have a sneaking feeling that Gordan's agent wants to wait until 2010 when both Shaq and Nash come off contract and the Suns have the money to give Dragic a big contract.