Suns, Eric Bledsoe Far Apart In Talks

[Mainstreet]

And yet, for a few days, this seemed to be true too. There is another issue involving rumors and Monroe, that being he doesn't want to return to the Pistons if Smith is still there. Maybe it's not true, maybe it is, but all we really get are rumors. The absence of a denial suggests there's some truth to the 48 for Bledsoe, 80 demand by agent and 54 offer from Detroit but we don't really know. How many times after the fact have we heard GM's deny every rumor and report that circulated while things were in flux?

Steve

I think the "absence of a denial" by the player or by the team are the only clues we get in negotiations. Not much but it can give us something to talk about.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think the "absence of a denial" by the player or by the team are the only clues we get in negotiations. Not much but it can give us something to talk about.

True.

Steve

 

[SO91]

More about the Hibbert for Dragic talk.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....hibbert-to-suns-in-exchange-for-goran-dragic/

One line of particular note is Dragic apparently saying he'd be interested in playing for Indy. I don't hold any ill will for him saying so, its not in any player's best interest to limit their potential horizons... however, I cannot imagine the feces storm that Bledsoe would have gotten from some around here had he made a similar comment leading up to his free agency.

That source is so questionable, it's not even funny. I heard this rumor and saw the source a few days ago, which is translated using google translate. http://www.ekipa24.si/clanek/kosarka/reprezentancna-kosarka/53e48ab0dbdbd/dragic

I have no idea if the translation is correct or not, but it would not surprise me if the meaning was translated incorrectly.

 

[desertdawg]

Sigh all you want.

There is nothing clear.

You're missing what the Suns need. Just like last year.

Right now the Suns need a rotation that will work together.

That EXCLUDES Eric Bledsoe. He's all for himself.

Give me George Hill. Pop loved him for his love of TEAM!

Make it so Ryan!

The Suns are better off with Bledsoe and he does play team ball, I don't know what team you watch. Look at the games where the dragon and Bledsoe both played, that's when we whad our highest winning percentage.

Common sense is common sense.

 

[BC867]

My impression -- repeat, my impression -- of Eric Bledsoe as a professional basketball player is that he is more of a free spirit than a steady force.

That definition could fit 4 out of 5 positions on the court on offense. All except Point Guard.

Goran Dragic is no Steve Nash when it comes to cool, calm and collected, but he is a lot closer than Bledsoe.

If you disagree, please write as you see it.

Thanks

 

[SirStefan32]

My impression -- repeat, my impression -- of Eric Bledsoe as a professional basketball player is that he is more of a free spirit than a steady force.

That definition could fit 4 out of 5 positions on the court on offense. All except Point Guard.

Goran Dragic is no Steve Nash when it comes to cool, calm and collected, but he is a lot closer than Bledsoe.

If you disagree, please write as you see it.

Thanks

In all fairness, Bledsoe is also much younger than Dragic and he also has little experience being anything but a backup. I think he can get better.

 

[Mainstreet]

It appears like the Suns just want to meet with Bledsoe however Bledsoe and agent are not willing to meet with them. See Paul Coro article at azcentral dated 8-11-14 for more.

Six weeks into free agency, Suns Managing Partner Robert Sarver expressed how he still wants to sign Bledsoe to a long-term contract with the Suns. He also just wants to be able to talk to Bledsoe.

"We value Eric as a player," Sarver said. "I hope at some point we'll be able to sit down and meet with those guys and make a deal."

A Comcast SportsNet Northwest report quoted a source who said the Suns' relationship with Bledsoe "is on the express lane to being ruined."

ESPN.com's Chris Broussard reported that the relationship is going in the "wrong direction."

"Maybe that's just posturing and negotiating," Sarver said of the reports. "We haven't heard from the guy in four months, so I couldn't tell you. I do know that when he played here, he felt good about the organization, his coaching staff and his teammates at the end of the season. We had the same feelings toward him."

I'm beginning to want Bledsoe less and less.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...t-long-term-deal-bledsoe-owner-says/13935221/

 

[Cheesebeef]

It appears like the Suns just want to meet with Bledsoe however Bledsoe and agent are not willing to meet with them. See Paul Coro article at azcentral dated 8-11-14 for more.



I'm beginning to want Bledsoe less and less.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...t-long-term-deal-bledsoe-owner-says/13935221/

That news sucks.

 

[Mainstreet]

That news sucks.

I do like this comment from Sarver in the same article:

"Hopefully, at the end of the day, Eric comes here and does a contract," Sarver said. "If that doesn't happen, then he'll be here for a year and we'll have a year to figure it out on both sides."

Let Bledsoe know the Suns are willing to let him play the upcoming season for the qualifying offer.

 

[Errntknght]

I would say that Bled is more impulsive than Goran but as the season went on he started copying him in pulling up for short range jumpers instead of always driving clear to the rim. Dragic is more creative really slose to the hoop - reminiscent of Tony Parker in that area. I feel a little more confident that Goran with make the right decisions in tight situations but Eric seems to be more of a clutch shooter.

Its going to be interesting to see how Jeff deplays his three scoring PG's - I doubt that Thomas will mesh as well with Goran or Eric as well as they do with each other but in the unlikely event that he does, Horny could keep two of them all the floor at all times - that just requires them to play 32 mpg each. I hope it doesn't come to that because I'd rather see them playing less minutes at higher intensity, especially on the defensive end.

 

[desertdawg]

Bledsoe may be trying to manifest a premier starting gig, if that's the case than his head is bigger than his worth. The type of ball Horny plays is the type of ball that make the Bledsoes of the world look awesome. If he doesn't want to show up than we don't have to pay him. If he does show up he has to put together some nice film to go with his 'desired departure", meaning he can't whine all season or not show up on the court. We have all the leverage here, and we already have 18 PG/SG/SFs on the team. I can see him doing really well here this year, which is what management seems to be planning on, and then cashing in somewhere else only to go down a peg because of the new team's scheme. So NO WORRIES HERE EITHER WAY.

 

[Superbone]

I'm not impressed with the lack of communication from Bledsoe's representation.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm not impressed with the lack of communication from Bledsoe's representation.

I don't think anybody is. I think Paul has a very juvenile understanding of the negotiation process. He thinks it's just a battle of wills now and he's wrong, they have no leverage. He can sell his client down the road by taking the QO or he can come in and negotiate.

Steve

 

[Superbone]

I don't think anybody is. I think Paul has a very juvenile understanding of the negotiation process. He thinks it's just a battle of wills now and he's wrong, they have no leverage. He can sell his client down the road by taking the QO or he can come in and negotiate.

Steve

Exactly.

 

[sunsfan88]

Rich Paul is just a free loader. This guy seriously would have absolutely zero clients if he didn't become friends with LeBron and then his agent.

I read somewhere years ago that the man might not even have a high school diploma. I won't see that everyone without higher education lacks intelligence but it is true some times and here's an example of that.

Bledsoe isn't smart (both on and off the court) otherwise he would have a choosed a rep who actually has the credentials for the job.

 

[3rdside]

It's not what you know, it's who you know. Lucky Rich Paul. And if he 'choosed' a rep then you might want to be careful with your insults.

 

[3rdside]

*I should have said "sometimes it's not what you know.."

 

[JCSunsfan]

Not communicating for four months is just insulting behavior. Insulting the people that hold your future in their hands and WANT to pay you tens of millions of dollars is just really amazing.

I am really impressed with the suns front office and their restraint.

 

[Mainstreet]

What may have gotten overlooked in the Paul Coro article at azcentral dated 8-11-14 is the update on second round draft pick Alec Brown.

• Suns second-round draft pick Alec Brown is planning to play for Obradoiro in the Spanish League this season once he finishes rehabilitation on his left shoulder, on which he had surgery July 24 to repair a dislocation suffered during NBA Summer League play.

Brown is expected to resume basketball activity in late October or November. The Suns retain the NBA rights to Brown, the 7-foot-1, perimeter-shooting power forward whom they selected 50th overall in June.

I like the potential of this young man especially as a stretch 4/5. A year overseas could help his game as he develops physically plus the Suns keep his rights.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...t-long-term-deal-bledsoe-owner-says/13935221/

 

[JCSunsfan]

What may have gotten overlooked in the Paul Coro article at azcentral dated 8-11-14 is the update on second round draft pick Alec Brown.



I like the potential of this young man especially as a stretch 4/5. A year overseas could help his game as he develops physically plus the Suns keep his rights.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...t-long-term-deal-bledsoe-owner-says/13935221/

Draft and stash. This is a great way to build up and develop assets. He might be useful for us in the future on the court or in trade.

 

[Chaplin]

What may have gotten overlooked in the Paul Coro article at azcentral dated 8-11-14 is the update on second round draft pick Alec Brown.



I like the potential of this young man especially as a stretch 4/5. A year overseas could help his game as he develops physically plus the Suns keep his rights.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...t-long-term-deal-bledsoe-owner-says/13935221/

That same article mentions Bledsoe having a 2nd agent: Mark Termini. He has a good sized client list, but most of them are playing overseas or with nobody at all. His only NBA client other than Bledsoe is Kosta Koufos.

Looks like Bledsoe has surrounded himself with the worst possible agents he could.

 

[Jay Cardinal]

I don't think anybody is. I think Paul has a very juvenile understanding of the negotiation process. He thinks it's just a battle of wills now and he's wrong, they have no leverage. He can sell his client down the road by taking the QO or he can come in and negotiate.

Steve

It is just shocking to see an agent so out of touch with what the job requires in my opinion.

I would argue the most important traits of a good agent are:
1. Relationships. Know and communicate well with top level NBA management (GM's).
2. Negotiation skills. Focusing on getting a deal done.
3. Understand the value of your player in the marketplace.

Perhaps it will be proven otherwise, but I think Rich Paul has shown very poorly on those metrics thus far.

 

[Azlen]

I'm really curious as to what exactly his agent is doing if they are refusing to talk to the Suns. If other teams were interested, I'm sure he would have leaked something about that. It makes no sense. What exactly are they waiting for?

 

[JCSunsfan]

If I am the Suns, I would demand a physical as part of any offer. Who knows, he could have reinjured himself playing pickup ball this summer.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'm really curious as to what exactly his agent is doing if they are refusing to talk to the Suns. If other teams were interested, I'm sure he would have leaked something about that. It makes no sense. What exactly are they waiting for?

Bledsoe hasn't talked...that doesn't mean his agent hasn't.