Suns fire Jeff Hornacek

[82CardsGrad]

I agree, but I am not sure trading Dragic was the wrong thing to do. I am a huge fan, but not at the price Miami was willing to pay. That said, I would love to watch him play with Booker and Warren as the lead PG, but that ship sailed long ago.

It's not worth beating it to death any longer... But for me, I would've much preferred to pay Goran than pay both Bledsoe and Knight... Yes, seeing Goran on the court with not only Booker and Warren, but Len as well... THAT would've been fun...

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Native

It is the right thing to do which means it probably will not happen.

Can we read anything into the fact that Philly last played Sat and doesnt play again until Weds? The timing for Saver to have indepth conversations over this period with DA seems to fit the time frame with Jeffs firing. Coincidence?

 

[JustWinBaby]

Can we read anything into the fact that Philly last played Sat and doesnt play again until Weds? The timing for Saver to have indepth conversations over this period with DA seems to fit the time frame with Jeffs firing. Coincidence?

Maybe we can trade BK for Ish and MDA.

Sorry I will wake up soon.

 

[SirStefan32]

It's not worth beating it to death any longer... But for me, I would've much preferred to pay Goran than pay both Bledsoe and Knight... Yes, seeing Goran on the court with not only Booker and Warren, but Len as well... THAT would've been fun...

Fair enough. I would tend to agree.

 

[GatorAZ]

It's pretty embarrassing that Nash was our first choice. Lots of candidates with coaching experience and Sarver tries to over glorify the past again.

 

[Catlover]

I'd be fine with hiring Mike back but I wouldn't enjoy the board meltdown that would surely follow. I don't know who my first choice would be, I probably fall more in the "anyone but so and so" group. For me, the only horrible choices would be Thibodeau, Jackson or Jeff Van Gundy. And those 3 are probably among the favorite candidates for many here.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm thinking something triggered the Hornacek firing. Losing was nothing new. There was no reason to fire him now only to replace him with an interim coach. It doesn't make sense unless the Suns want to pursue another head coach and get a head start.

I have to mention this although it is an unlikely guess. Could Markieff and Hornacek have had a strained relationship which prevented his return to form? I will be interested in how Markieff plays under the interim head coach.

 

[Catlover]

It's pretty embarrassing that Nash was our first choice. Lots of candidates with coaching experience and Sarver tries to over glorify the past again.

It comes from "ESPN sources", I'd say that falls in the category of pure speculation. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just not willing to buy into it without some substance.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd be fine with hiring Mike back but I wouldn't enjoy the board meltdown that would surely follow. I don't know who my first choice would be, I probably fall more in the "anyone but so and so" group. For me, the only horrible choices would be Thibodeau, Jackson or Jeff Van Gundy. And those 3 are probably among the favorite candidates for many here.

So you dared to mention Mike. Ha ha.

Picture Nash in the FO and DA as head coach.

 

[sunsfan88]

I wonder how much of a role Tyson Chandler played in it too

https://twitter.com/KellanOlson/status/694194186854076416

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'm thinking something triggered the Hornacek firing. Losing was nothing new. There was no reason to fire him now only to replace him with an interim coach. It doesn't make sense unless the Suns want to pursue another head coach and get a head start.

I have to mention this although it is an unlikely guess. Could Markieff and Hornacek have had a strained relationship which prevented his return to form? I will be interested in how Markieff plays under the interim head coach.

so, just speculating here. Some trade discussion falls through and Horny is fed up. Gives mgmt a "me or him" ultimatum. While McD wants to trade Kieff, he is not going to just dump him. He knows Horny is probably not coming back next year anyway. So he fires Horny. He will trade Kieff too.

However, if Kieff finally decided to turn it around, this might be a good moment to do so. I am just not sure he CAN.

 

[Mainstreet]

so, just speculating here. Some trade discussion falls through and Horny is fed up. Gives mgmt a "me or him" ultimatum. While McD wants to trade Kieff, he is not going to just dump him. He knows Horny is probably not coming back next year anyway. So he fires Horny. He will trade Kieff too.

However, if Kieff finally decided to turn it around, this might be a good moment to do so. I am just not sure he CAN.

Let's find out. I will be watching Markieff closely. It could solve the PF problem for now.

 

[sunsfan88]

I would think McD has a bigger role in Kieff's unhappiness than Hornacek so I don't think Hornacek getting fired will suddenly make Kieff more motivated. McD is the one that traded Marcus, not Hornacek. Quite frankly, I don't care all that much for Kieff's happiness anyway.

It would be bad if Kieff isn't traded by the deadline and the Suns wait til the summer for this nightmare to end.

 

[Chaplin]

I would think McD has a bigger role in Kieff's unhappiness than Hornacek so I don't think Hornacek getting fired will suddenly make Kieff more motivated. McD is the one that traded Marcus, not Hornacek. Quite frankly, I don't care all that much for Kieff's happiness anyway.

It would be bad if Kieff isn't traded by the deadline and the Suns wait til the summer for this nightmare to end.

You could also argue that Marcus really didn't like Hornacek (see the towel "incident") and that could have carried over to his FOE brother.

 

[Mainstreet]

You could also argue that Marcus really didn't like Hornacek (see the towel "incident") and that could have carried over to his FOE brother.

This was a part of my thought process. Maybe it's something or maybe it's nothing. However, possibly Markieff could view the firing of Hornacek as vindication.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

No way they hire Nash as head coach. Maybe assistant but not as a head coach. He has no experience and just retired from the league.

Hmmmmm...Jason Kidd? Derek Fisher?

I think Nash would be better than those two...

 

[SO91]

Hmmmmm...Jason Kidd? Derek Fisher?

I think Nash would be better than those two...

Why?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Why?

I think he's more intellectual...

 

[Chaplin]

Why?

Because he has coaching experience. What do you think he did the entire time when he won his MVPs? If you don't consider that "coaching experience", then what experience did Kidd and Fisher have before getting their jobs? And Nash did a lot more on-the-floor coaching than either of those guys.

 

[SO91]

Because he has coaching experience. What do you think he did the entire time when he won his MVPs? If you don't consider that "coaching experience", then what experience did Kidd and Fisher have before getting their jobs? And Nash did a lot more on-the-floor coaching than either of those guys.

Look, I don't think either of those 2 guys are great coaches. They're kinda mediocre in my book, but they haven't been on the job long. Maybe they turn out to be good, I don't know. What Steve did while on the floor was amazing, but that's no indication he'll be able to translate that to other players. That still isn't enough for me to say he'd be better than those 2 guys mentioned.

 

[Catlover]

Look, I don't think either of those 2 guys are great coaches. They're kinda mediocre in my book, but they haven't been on the job long. Maybe they turn out to be good, I don't know. What Steve did while on the floor was amazing, but that's no indication he'll be able to translate that to other players.

I agree. I have no clue whether Nash can coach or not. And if they hire him I'll hope for the best but it seems risky on Sarver's part. Steve's ties to the organization and his personal ties to Robert could make for a sticky situation if it doesn't work out. And with our roster, not working out is a close to a safe bet. We probably have a few more rocky seasons in front of us until we build up a solid enough talent base to truly compete.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Just now on Gambos show.
Gambo was told by a unnamed player that none of the players were told of Horny's termination. They learned about it from the morning news.
Let that sink in!

 

[Mainstreet]

Just now on Gambos show.
Gambo was told by a unnamed player that none of the players were told of Horny's termination. They learned about it from the morning news.
Let that sink in!

Possibly Hornacek did not have any players in his camp that would voice concerns.

 

[az jam]

Just now on Gambos show.
Gambo was told by a unnamed player that none of the players were told of Horny's termination. They learned about it from the morning news.
Let that sink in!

I think that is the usual case. Owners or GMs don't call the players to announce the firing of a head coach.

 

[slinslin]

They fired him in the middle of the night and Woj spoiled it asap.

What do you expect that they call every player at 2am to tell them?