Suns FO Should be Embarrassed

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OK, sorry had to go here. The Suns organization should be embarrassed for letting the Mavs beat them to a title. If you look at what the Mavs have managed to do and where the Suns front office currently is, it's downright bleak.

Seriously, compare Cuban to Sarver. Compare the Mavs front office to the Suns. Compare the Mavs approach to keeping "core" guys together vs the Suns approach. Compare the Mavs bringing in defensive pieces to the Suns constantly bringing in more offense for the most part.

Damn it's frustrating to be a Suns fans right now.
 

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Balance Sheet Bob is only concerned about the annual report and the financial statements. It's up to us to affect those because those are the only things that speak to him. Sad but true....
 

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"Welts said that Babby, in his first year with the franchise, was amazed by the negative reaction to the Suns' 40-42 record this past season.

"For a lot of markets that's a really successful team," Welts said. "But the success we've had comes with higher standards in terms of people's expectations. There's more anxiety when the team isn't solidly winning more than half of its games."

embarrassed? they were "AMAZED" people had a negative reaction to a 40-42 record... and then said for a lot of markets, that's a really successful team!

the bar has been set ridiculously low for this team. get used to it.
 

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Did you ever see Scrooge McDuck looking embarrassed as he was backstroking in his money vault? Nope, dude was the happiest duck in the whole wide world.

People like Sarver dont give a crap about how much fans or players want to win. They look at quarterly reports and profit/loss reports. The only thing that would ever embarrass Robet Sarver is a bad financial statement. The dude is a banker for crying out loud. I would bet that the only thing he's envious of right now is Mark Cubans net worth and how much merchandise and season ticket sales are going to increase due to this championship.
 
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"Welts said that Babby, in his first year with the franchise, was amazed by the negative reaction to the Suns' 40-42 record this past season.

"For a lot of markets that's a really successful team," Welts said. "But the success we've had comes with higher standards in terms of people's expectations. There's more anxiety when the team isn't solidly winning more than half of its games."

the bar has been set ridiculously low for this team. get used to it.

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Cuban is the anti-Sarver. He is not afraid to spend money if he thinks it's going to lead to wins. Not only does the guy pay top money for talent, but he's not afraid to spoil them by furbishing lockers with their own flat screen and PS3. Also, surrounding himself with guys like Donnie Nelson and Rick Carlisle help tremendously. When's the last time that team didnt win 50+ games? Granted, it took him about 10 or so years to do, he finally got his ring.

Sarver is just a flat out garbage owner. Never should a banker own a team.
 

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As annoying as Cuban is, I believe he is the best owner in NBA. He truly LOVES his team. He attends every game and he acts like he is their biggest fan. How many NBA owners actually wear basketball jerseys? How many even know much about basketball?


Anyway, now that Mavs has won their first title. When is Suns going to ever get one? They've already decided to let Amare go. Hopefully this brings some fire next season.

I really don't want Mavs to win before Suns. Oh well.
 

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"Welts said that Babby, in his first year with the franchise, was amazed by the negative reaction to the Suns' 40-42 record this past season.

"For a lot of markets that's a really successful team," Welts said. "But the success we've had comes with higher standards in terms of people's expectations. There's more anxiety when the team isn't solidly winning more than half of its games."

embarrassed? they were "AMAZED" people had a negative reaction to a 40-42 record... and then said for a lot of markets, that's a really successful team!

the bar has been set ridiculously low for this team. get used to it.

I agree. Sarver has run this team into the dirt. And I am embarrassed as a Suns fan that the Mavericks won a title before we did...
 

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I do not believe anything will change with the Suns. Winning a championship hasn't been a priority since we started selling draft picks for cash.

When the franchise stops being profitable, Sarver may just move the team to San Diego rather than sell it.
 

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But but but...it'll be different next year Daren. The focus will be on defense,rebounding and rebuilding with a youth movement in order to put a solid foundation in place for the future. Its been reported...I BELIEVE....:lol:
....I believe that we're just gonna get Nashball till he's 50 yrs old because its the "honorable" thing to do. :doi:
 

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The problem is, Dallas' payroll for this season is at $90M. Additionally, they have paid around $20M in luxury tax, for a total of $110M player expenses for one season. Cuban can afford it and is willing to spend. Most owners either can't, aren't willing, or both. Sarver falls under the "both" category, and he also doesn't seem to be willing to take any risks either.

Unfortunately, what Dallas has proven this year is that teams that spend a lot more money than average are more likely to win a title than those that do not. Although I guess I prefer that to what Miami would have proven had they won. At least what Dallas has done is nothing new, and may even become impossible under the new CBA.
 

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Fwiw i saw lance blanks being interviewed on one of the local tv atations. He interviews like a moron. Hopefully its just a camera thing.
 

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Fwiw i saw lance blanks being interviewed on one of the local tv atations. He interviews like a moron. Hopefully its just a camera thing.

He's obviously a smart guy, I mean he was smart enough to convince someone to hire him and pay him millions of dollars to be the GM of an NBA team. So I dont think he's a moron based on his interviews or his intellect, I think he's a moron based on the course this team is taking under his direction.
 

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"Welts said that Babby, in his first year with the franchise, was amazed by the negative reaction to the Suns' 40-42 record this past season.

"For a lot of markets that's a really successful team," Welts said. "But the success we've had comes with higher standards in terms of people's expectations. There's more anxiety when the team isn't solidly winning more than half of its games."

embarrassed? they were "AMAZED" people had a negative reaction to a 40-42 record... and then said for a lot of markets, that's a really successful team!

the bar has been set ridiculously low for this team. get used to it.

Of the markets that consider a 40-42 record a really successful team, how many of them were in the conference finals the season before? This is just a ridiculous sentiment for anyone in the Suns organization to express.
 

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Thank you Bob for not bringing back a WCF team that was one box out away from the Finals. When the Mavs were celebrating, Mike Breen said that the team played their heart out so that Dirk and Ason could get their rings. I don't think this team has enough players that give a **** about getting Nash his ring. If Sarver is going to keep Nash until he becomes a corpse, at least throw all the chips on the table and try to surround Steve with a core that will give him a chance.
 

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I think that as fans we have justifiably freaked out a lot over the past decade but have also been pleasantly surprised more than once. However, it did take something tangible like a great draft pick (Amare) a high profile free agent signing (Nash) or someone elevating their game (Frye). A full season of Gortat does have the potential to be one of these boons.

I really wonder what the CBA negotiations will bring. But I also wonder how other Western conference teams are going to adjust.

Lakers: they left the playoffs in disarray, but now that things have calmed down, I see no reason not to view them as a favorite to make the conference finals. The coaching change is obviously a downgrade, but I think in general they are playing out this era, and Brown may actually be a refreshing change for another run. All the hysterical talk of trading Gasol and/or Bynum has waned, and both are still formidable regardless of their problems this offseason.

OKC: they'll get more experienced, Westbrook will (maybe) stop chucking, and they'll get better.

San Antonio: very curious to see when they pull the plug and how. It's hard to imagine any of their core players not retiring with the team, and yet as a savvy organization I wouldn't be surprised to see them dismiss this last regular season, take a hard look at the last two postseasons, and start getting younger.

Dallas: Kidd said recently that he has no plans to retire whether the Mavs win the title or not. They have him for one more year at $8m. I wonder if they stay the course with Kidd and Barea, or if they would make a move? If Chris Paul intends to turn down his option for 2012-2013 the Hornets might be inclined to move him no matter how much they deny it.
 

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There's gonna be a hard cap and none of this will ever matter again.

Free agents will only care about these things.

Quality of team, fans, weather, city, topless clubs...
 

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Nash, JJ, Marion, Amare, KT

Could we have done it if they kept them together?
 

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Sh*t. Nash-JJ-Marion-Amare-KT with James Jones, Q, House, and Barbosa would have contended this year. I still think DAL would have beaten them because of Chandler, but then again, KT was decent at keeping opposing 5s off the glass while grabbing about 8 rips himself....
 

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Sh*t. Nash-JJ-Marion-Amare-KT with James Jones, Q, House, and Barbosa would have contended this year. I still think DAL would have beaten them because of Chandler, but then again, KT was decent at keeping opposing 5s off the glass while grabbing about 8 rips himself....

I know.. Chandler is such a good addition to Mavs. Why can't Suns get a decent center like Chandler? Oh wait, our Lopez has a GREAT potential.
 

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Chandler would have solved Amare's deficiencies. I strongly advocated trying to get him on here for a few seasons. Amare without Chandler is what we saw. Amare with Chandler is championship material....
 

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