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Supposedly Ariza was the player Kokoskov wanted. Still McDonough needed to put team need, point guard, over every thing else.

I know, which is part of why it baffles me that there were so many Igor supporters and why some still think he didn't deserve to be fired.
 

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It is curious. We NEED PG or PF. He is arguably not the most polished, or the most up side. Maybe the best athlete in the draft? Maybe best scorer? It would seem if they intend to pair him with Booker the thinking is let's try going with two SG Scorers that can both bring up the ball? (I don't know if he can even bring up the ball) I mean a lot of teams, even the Suns have run two, heck us again, three PGs at at time. Maybe we buck the trend and go two scorers at the same time? :shrug:

I don't think playing two shooting guards together is the answer unless Culver can distribute.
 
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For the sake of argument, let's assume the coach wants Tyler Johnson OR a free agent veteran PG. We are not looking at the draft for PG. Let's assume the same for PF/C. Is Culver the best we can do at #6? Assuming we are now position agnostic. Would Coby White slide down the baord if we don't pick him. If we don't worry about position, who really is our best bet at #6?
 

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I know, which is part of why it baffles me that there were so many Igor supporters and why some still think he didn't deserve to be fired.

Kokoskov needed a point guard to run his offense as well.

I understand Sarver may have made the trade for Mikal Bridges.

I've always wondered if McDonough was going to trade #16 and the Miami pick for a point guard.
 

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Kokoskov needed a point guard to run his offense as well.

I understand Sarver may have made the trade for Mikal Bridges.

I've always wondered if McDonough was going to trade #16 and the Miami pick for a point guard.

And if that's the case, what we might be seeing with Culver is an extension of such ignorance and meddling from Sarver. I really, really hope that is not what's going on here...
 
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Except Culver isn't tall enough to be a SF. At least Warren, Jackson and Bridges have the potential to play multiple positions.

Culver is a shooting guard and nothing else, and he can't shoot and has poor shot selection.

I would actually rather the Suns just give away the pick and save the cap space than use it on Culver.
I was referring to your observation about us being curious about signing SF last year when there were PGs available. ;)
 

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For the sake of argument, let's assume the coach wants Tyler Johnson OR a free agent veteran PG. We are not looking at the draft for PG. Let's assume the same for PF/C. Is Culver the best we can do at #6? Assuming we are now position agnostic. Would Coby White slide down the baord if we don't pick him. If we don't worry about position, who really is our best bet at #6?

I would go with literally anyone else - Hunter (who can play either forward spot), Reddish, Clarke (for depth), Hachimura (ditto), Bol (ditto), Dombouya (ditto), Little, Alexander, Herro, Hayes, Kabengele, etc.
 
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For the sake of argument, let's assume the coach wants Tyler Johnson OR a free agent veteran PG. We are not looking at the draft for PG. Let's assume the same for PF/C. Is Culver the best we can do at #6? Assuming we are now position agnostic. Would Coby White slide down the board if we don't pick him. If we don't worry about position, who really is our best bet at #6?

Man. The top of the draft sucks on guys helping right away. Might as well take a flyer on the most upside potential and just figure that player isn't helping right away. We need at least one vet PG and one vet PF.
 

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Man. The top of the draft sucks on guys helping right away. Might as well take a flyer on the most upside potential and just figure that player isn't helping right away. We need at least one vet PG and one vet PF.

Yep, though I think that if any rookie outside of Zion and Barrett could help right away, it's Hunter...
 
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Every guy has a warning. Kabengle looks really good as a hustle PF, then you read the knock on him is he doesn't always put out the effort. Great! Just great!
 
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Yep, though I think that if any rookie outside of Zion and Barrett could help right away, it's Hunter...
I am almost hoping Hunter will fall to us. I agree he looks about most ready to contribute that is not Zion.
 

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I'm not wanting the Suns to give up assets either. It's curious the Suns have interest in him though.

It's because he's a heck of a player that was forced to carry a team. He defends multiple positions, handles the ball fairly well and is a smart all around player. When forced to be the primary option he failed to deliver consistently but when he had talent around him, even though he was a freshman, he was reasonably effective. If you take him you're gambling that he can become a consistent threat from the outside but I'd gladly take that risk, he does so many other things well already.
 
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It's because he's a heck of a player that was forced to carry a team. He defends multiple positions, handles the ball well and is a smart all around player. When forced to be the primary option he failed to deliver consistently but when he had talent around him, even though he was a freshman, he was effective. If you take him you're gambling that he can become a consistent threat from the outside but I'd gladly take that risk, he does so many other things well already.
Thanks. Good to know. He is 6'6" just like Booker.
 

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I am almost hoping Hunter will fall to us. I agree he looks about most ready to contribute that is not Zion.

Yeah, I doubt he makes it to 6 which is too bad for us.
 

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It's because he's a heck of a player that was forced to carry a team. He defends multiple positions, handles the ball fairly well and is a smart all around player. When forced to be the primary option he failed to deliver consistently but when he had talent around him, even though he was a freshman, he was reasonably effective. If you take him you're gambling that he can become a consistent threat from the outside but I'd gladly take that risk, he does so many other things well already.

I guess the upside would be he could be a future combo guard who can play besides Booker. He moves so smoothly. When I first saw him he reminded me a bit of Brandon Ingram.
 

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I guess the upside would be he could be a future combo guard who can play besides Booker. He moves so smoothly. When I first saw him he reminded me a bit of Brandon Ingram.

Unfortunately the guy he continues to remind me of the most is Shaq Harrison.
 

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Yeah, I doubt he makes it to 6 which is too bad for us.
He has a good chance of falling to 6 , Zion morant and Barret are all but locked in , then rumors are cam reddish may be 4-5 and Garland to Lakers is a high probability so I'd say 50-50 he's there for us
 

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Unfortunately the guy he continues to remind me of the most is Shaq Harrison.
Your player comparisons baffle me sometimes , but I do agree that after watching him in the tournament and alot during the year I'd be very disappointed if they select him , especially if Hunter or Garland is there
 

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I guess the upside would be he could be a future combo guard who can play besides Booker. He moves so smoothly. When I first saw him he reminded me a bit of Brandon Ingram.

There are some that question his measurements and insist that he's taller than listed. I don't know but if so he might end up as a small forward. Regardless, he will be a very good role player unless he develops as an outside shooter and if that happens he'll be a plus starter IMO. Not exactly what you want at 6 but IMO he doesn't have any more questions than most of the names bandied about in the lottery after Zion.
 

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Your player comparisons baffle me sometimes , but I do agree that after watching him in the tournament and alot during the year I'd be very disappointed if they select him , especially if Hunter or Garland is there

I wouldn't take Culver over Hunter either but I would take him over Garland. I wouldn't take Garland in the lottery even if Rich Paul wasn't his agent but with Paul involved I'd lose all interest in him.
 

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I don't think playing two shooting guards together is the answer unless Culver can distribute.

I don't understand this thinking.

There is no viable PG or PF that is going to be available at 6 if Garland is gone.

You have to take the best available at that point - if Culver is there he is clearly the best available.
 

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I am almost hoping Hunter will fall to us. I agree he looks about most ready to contribute that is not Zion.

Perhaps - he also has the lowest upside of anybody in the top 7.

He does not excite me in the least. But I am coming to the realization that perhaps we will have to take him, just for his trade value over the other possibilities.
 

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Perhaps - he also has the lowest upside of anybody in the top 7.

He does not excite me in the least. But I am coming to the realization that perhaps we will have to take him, just for his trade value over the other possibilities.

Right now we need solid contributors, not upside. What did the upside in Len, Bender and Chriss get us?
 

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Culver is the superior prospect to Hunter.

Movement skills/Quickness Culver is easily better
Ballhandling - Culver easily better
Passing - Culver is much better
Defense - Culver is better
Rebounding - Culver is better
Steals - Culver is better
Ability to get shot off and drive - Culver is better

Shooting - easily Hunter
Turnovers - Hunter is better.
Blocks - they are equal.

I think Culver will improve his shooting - therefore he is easily the better prospect. There is video of him hitting 15 of 20 3's in practice - it is not like he is far off.

If you are looking for someone that could potentially play in the backcourt with Booker, there is no chance with hunter - he plays like an undersized PF, whereas Culver can already do it, he just needs to improve his jumper.
 

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