Suns have 6th pick and 32nd pick in 2019 draft.

[Proximo]

Right now we need solid contributors, not upside. What did the upside in Len, Bender and Chriss get us?

Culver is not raw.

He has one defeciency - his jumper. It's not terrible either - quite frankly it is very close to Oubre's already.

 

[1Sun]

Culver is not raw.

He has one defeciency - his jumper. It's not terrible either - quite frankly it is very close to Oubre's already.

And his shot selection, and his ball handling, and his passing, and his free throw shooting...

The only things he does well are defend and rebound (for a guard).

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't understand this thinking.

There is no viable PG or PF that is going to be available at 6 if Garland is gone.

You have to take the best available at that point - if Culver is there he is clearly the best available.

This is a deep draft as far as big men. The Suns need not get locked into the projected top 6-10 players.

I believe in drafting BPA but this may mean looking at players projected to go later in the draft.

Sekou, Grant Williams and Kabengele are worth considering.

 

[Mainstreet]

There are some that question his measurements and insist that he's taller than listed. I don't know but if so he might end up as a small forward. Regardless, he will be a very good role player unless he develops as an outside shooter and if that happens he'll be a plus starter IMO. Not exactly what you want at 6 but IMO he doesn't have any more questions than most of the names bandied about in the lottery after Zion.

Unless the Suns believe Culver can be a combo guard or a replacement for Warren or Jackson (if they are traded elsewhere), it's hard to get excited about another small forward.

If they believe Culver has star potential, then that's another matter.

 

[JCSunsfan]

There will be an all-star forward (pf) in this draft and he will be drafted 6th or later. We must have to make sure we are the ones to get him.

Bazley, Kabengele --someone like that.

 

[Mainstreet]

Unfortunately the guy he continues to remind me of the most is Shaq Harrison.

This may be a bit harsh as I view it.

 

[Proximo]

Unless the Suns believe Culver can be a combo guard or a replacement for Warren or Jackson (if they are traded elsewhere), it's hard to get excited about another small forward.

If they believe Culver has star potential, then that's another matter.

Culver was measured at 6'6 3/4 with a 6'9 wingspan at the combine there is no guessing

I think Culver has star potential. It is rare you find a guy who can do everything he can.

Shooting can and is often improved in the NBA. There are tons of examples - but there are few fewer examples of guys that become lockdown defenders, or improve their movement skills.

 

[Proximo]

There will be an all-star forward (pf) in this draft and he will be drafted 6th or later. We must have to make sure we are the ones to get him.

Bazley, Kabengele --someone like that.

I am sure you are right - but they will be taken after the 10th pick in all likelihood.

You really should not swing for the fences at 6 - We tried that with Bender and Chriss - and look how that turned out.

 

[Mainstreet]

Culver was measured at 6'6 3/4 with a 6'9 wingspan at the combine there is no guessing

I think Culver has star potential. It is rare you find a guy who can do everything he can.

Shooting can and is often improved in the NBA. There are tons of examples - but there are few fewer examples of guys that become lockdown defenders, or improve their movement skills.

Maybe Culver can be everything you describe and more, but if the draft has taught me one thing, draft players that have tangible skills like shooting, ballhandling and rebounding.

 

[Proximo]

Maybe Culver can be everything you describe and more, but if the draft has taught me one thing, draft players that have tangible skills like shooting, ballhandling and rebounding.

I get what you are saying. Tatum has done much better than I ever thought he would - and I considered him a boring low upside prospect.

Maybe Hunter is the same kind of guy.

But I disagree with you acting like Culver does not have tangible skills - he does - he has them all other than shooting. Now I get what you are saying - if he is a career 30% 3 point shooter he will never even be starter quality. But his shooting form is not bad. If he shot like Marion I would not want the Suns drafting him at 6. He just needs a lot of practice.

For instance - I would say Culvers form is much better than Jackson's was when we drafted him, and look how much he has improved his shot in 2 years.

 

[1Sun]

I get what you are saying. Tatum has done much better than I ever thought he would - and I considered him a boring low upside prospect.

Maybe Hunter is the same kind of guy.

But I disagree with you acting like Culver does not have tangible skills - he does - he has them all other than shooting. Now I get what you are saying - if he is a career 30% 3 point shooter he will never even be starter quality. But his shooting form is not bad. If he shot like Marion I would not want the Suns drafting him at 6. He just needs practice.

It's not his form. It's his selection. He jacks up poor percentage shots that are fully contested. He doesn't know how to play within the flow of a game...or he does but refuses to do so. It is a big reason why he is my worst case scenario in the draft. In my opinion, it is worse than bust potential. I believe he is the type of player, like Knight, Morris, etc., who has the potential to tear the team apart.

 

[Mainstreet]

I get what you are saying. Tatum has done much better than I ever thought he would - and I considered him a boring low upside prospect.

Maybe Hunter is the same kind of guy.

But I disagree with you acting like Culver does not have tangible skills - he does - he has them all other than shooting. Now I get what you are saying - if he is a career 30% 3 point shooter he will never even be starter quality. But his shooting form is not bad. If he shot like Marion I would not want the Suns drafting him at 6. He just needs practice.

I'm not against the Suns drafting Culver.

However, I do not want them to exclude other players because they are projected to go later in the draft. The more I read about him the more excited I become. He played very well for Texas Tech. If he can become a combo guard and play next to Booker, I would be thrilled.

As a side note, I understand the Lakers have already brought in Culver for a workout.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm not sure if this has been posted but this is a good video to get familiar with Culver's game.

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[Mainstreet]

Another player that reminds me a bit of Culver is Joe Johnson.

 

[1Sun]

Another player that reminds me a bit of Culver is Joe Johnson.

Culver reminds me more of Tyler Johnson than Joe Johnson.

 

[Mainstreet]

Culver reminds me more of Tyler Johnson than Joe Johnson.

I like the comparison to Joe Johnson better but if Culver is an improved version of Tyler Johnson, I'd be satisfied with that.

 

[1Sun]

I like the comparison to Joe Johnson better but if Culver is an improved version of Tyler Johnson, I'd be satisfied with that.

A high volume shooter who can't shoot?

 

[Mainstreet]

A high volume shooter who can't shoot?

These stats do not say Culver can't shoot.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jarrett-culver-1.html

 

[Proximo]

I'm not against the Suns drafting Culver.

However, I do not want them to exclude other players because they are projected to go later in the draft. The more I read about him the more excited I become. He played very well for Texas Tech. If he can become a combo guard and play next to Booker, I would be thrilled.

As a side note, I understand the Lakers have already brought in Culver for a workout.

The draft is the 20th. Just because he is the only guy the Suns have worked out, does not mean they are zoned in on him.

Garland is my first choice, Culver is a close second - than there is a huge dip IMO. I am praying the lakers take Culver or hunter - because if they do, it means the Suns get Garland.

 

[Mainstreet]

The draft is the 20th. Just because he is the only guy the Suns have worked out, does not mean they are zoned in on him.

Garland is my first choice, Culver is a close second - than there is a huge dip IMO. I am praying the lakers take Culver or hunter - because if they do, it means the Suns get Garland.

I'm guessing Garland goes to the Lakers but who knows at this point in time. The injury issue does raise some concerns.

Here is some scouting video on him. They already have him projected to be an All-Star.

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[1Sun]

These stats do not say Culver can't shoot.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jarrett-culver-1.html

30.4% from the college 3 is horrendous and projects to very poor NBA outside shooting.

70.7% from the free throw line is also very poor for a guard.

And don't get me started on his assist-to-turnover ratio...

 

[1Sun]

The draft is the 20th. Just because he is the only guy the Suns have worked out, does not mean they are zoned in on him.

Garland is my first choice, Culver is a close second - than there is a huge dip IMO. I am praying the lakers take Culver or hunter - because if they do, it means the Suns get Garland.

I am praying the Lakers take Culver, so he can cause their team to implode instead of ours...

 

[Cheesebeef]

These stats do not say Culver can't shoot.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jarrett-culver-1.html

30% from college three and 70% from the FT say he's not a good shooter, especially for an NBA Guard.

I will be pretty unhappy if this is the move we make. I don't see huge upside, and we've got a bevy of SG/SF already. Continuing to fill up at that position there makes very little sense to me.

 

[1Sun]

30% from college three and 70% from the FT say he's not a good shooter, especially for an NBA Guard.

I will be pretty unhappy if this is the move we make. I don't see huge upside, and we've got a bevy of SG/SF already. Continuing to fill up at that position there makes very little sense to me.

And add the low assist and (relative to assists) high turnover numbers, and you get a ball-dominant player who forces things too much and does not play within his team's flow.

I want no part of a guard who at his best averages 6-14 from the field (1 for 4 from three) with 4 assists and 3 turnovers. Looks too much like Tyler Johnson to me.

 

[Mainstreet]

30% from college three and 70% from the FT say he's not a good shooter, especially for an NBA Guard.

I will be pretty unhappy if this is the move we make. I don't see huge upside, and we've got a bevy of SG/SF already. Continuing to fill up at that position there makes very little sense to me.

The Suns need to keep their options open and view the entire field for the draft. Better arguments could be made for drafting a big man. The Suns have some interest in Culver or we wouldn't be talking about it.