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Tankathon has Ty Jerome going at #33 so I hope it is an option. Winston is worth a look as well.
Suns have 6th pick and 32nd pick in 2019 draft.
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Tankathon has Ty Jerome going at #33 so I hope it is an option. Winston is worth a look as well.
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I found a video on Colby White which does a pretty good job of describing his strengths and weaknesses.
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Jerome is interesting. He does not seem particularly athletic but makes use of what he has. He plays good D, is a very good passer, and is a good shooter. The big knock on him is wingspan (6-4, and he is 6-5.5 tall). But he is already big for a guard and wingspan does not seem to be as significant an issue for a pg as for a wing. Steph does OK with a 6-4 wingspan.
Honestly, I would not mind trading down in this draft and coming away with a guard like Ponds or Jerome and a big like Kabengele or Bazley.
I just do not understand why Kabengele is not rated higher than he is. He is physically dominating, shoots from all over, is a shot blocker and rebounder and a good finisher. He would be perfect next to Ayton. He has as much pro potential as Clarke. He does not have Clarke's physical limitations.
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Jerome reminds me a lot of Landry Shamet.
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We are very much in agreement about Kabengele and I like some of the other big men as well. I like Kabengele probably more than Clark. Grant Williams and Bazley are interesting candidates as well.
It could well be all the point guards aside from Morant are backups at least early in their careers so an argument could be made about drafting the best big man available.
Ty Jerome is an intriguing point guard prospect if he is there at #32. He appears solid if unspectacular. The Suns will need a starter anyway.
The problem the Suns run into in this draft, other teams are probably not keen on trading assets for the Suns to move down. I hear the Knicks are exploring moving back. The Suns may have to draft the player they like at #6.
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I know Main has been stressing Kabengele for a while. Count me in as also a little confused he isn't touted a lot higher. He has amazing all around game. He is active and shows good energy. Good with his hands, which says something when he's got a 7-3 wingspan. But he has to learn to stay under control on D. Is prone to try to block EVERYTHING and gets into a lot of trouble. That said, this guy is an animal.
As far as PFs in the same range:
Rui is productive. He was all over Kabengele in the Tourney and had the better showing. That said, he doesn't elevate for a PF. His lack of rebounding and blocking is troublesome. I'm all about production, but this guy has a too much tweener to him for me to be psyched. Plus, I don't see Rui as getting that much better. He is what you see. I would rather take Kabengele and hope to strike gold. Plus, Kab has better Sophomore stats than Rui did.
Clarke is energetic and explosive. I love his energy. But he's one dimensional on O. All power with no finesse can be limiting in the NBA. Kabengele is clearly a better over all player. I don't see this one as all that close.
Sekou is crazy raw. I don't know how excited I am to see us draft another guy that will take 3 years to see what he is.
With so little love for the guy, I wonder if we could possibly trade into the early teens and nab him. I gotta believe he goes in the lottery. Maybe dangle Warren to Atlanta, Charlotte, and Boston and see if they bite.
As far as PFs in the same range:
Rui is productive. He was all over Kabengele in the Tourney and had the better showing. That said, he doesn't elevate for a PF. His lack of rebounding and blocking is troublesome. I'm all about production, but this guy has a too much tweener to him for me to be psyched. Plus, I don't see Rui as getting that much better. He is what you see. I would rather take Kabengele and hope to strike gold. Plus, Kab has better Sophomore stats than Rui did.
Clarke is energetic and explosive. I love his energy. But he's one dimensional on O. All power with no finesse can be limiting in the NBA. Kabengele is clearly a better over all player. I don't see this one as all that close.
Sekou is crazy raw. I don't know how excited I am to see us draft another guy that will take 3 years to see what he is.
With so little love for the guy, I wonder if we could possibly trade into the early teens and nab him. I gotta believe he goes in the lottery. Maybe dangle Warren to Atlanta, Charlotte, and Boston and see if they bite.
So I totally understand why JJ's stock is way down. But someone is going to have to explain to me why anyone would give up almost nothing for JJ and THAT much for Ball. Ball has played in 33% less games, shoots worse in FT% (by 20%!!!) and FG%, and has a confidence that reminds me of my dog on the 4th of July (that is: tail tucked, shaking uncontrollably, and urinating on himself). Why does Ball get so much love for so VERY little production?
Yes, JJ has been frustrating... but at least he's been confident, aggressive, healthy, and working hard. I can't say that any of that reminds me of Ball.
You could offer Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball for the #6 and I wouldn't budge.
Suns offering the #6 for Lonzo because Sarver loves him (as I predicted)
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I like the description offered by coaches of Kabengele's game at Tankathon. He is old school and has a solid all around game. The Suns need a banger that can shoot and play some defense. He fills the role. I think there is less downside to drafting him than some other prospects. Minimally I think he will be a solid role player in the NBA but I think he can be more.
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Given his physical attributes and skills, is the reason he’s soooooo low in mocks due to inconsistent performance?
And that he hasn't been playing for all that long, making him a less athletic, albeit more American experienced, version of Sekou Doumbouya.
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I haven't seen any evidence of him being inconsistent. He is almost 22 which tends to push back players in the draft.
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Actually going back and looking at game logs it seems inconsistency is exactly the issue. Double the number of games in single digit scoring as 20+. And equal number of games with 3 or less rebounds as 7 or more rebounds. He’s got a huge variance in production.
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He was Florida State's leading scorer this past season as a sophomore.
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At 13.2 pts/game. And apparently a pretty old sophomore.
Don’t get me wrong, I liked him at the close of the season. But it raised questions to me why a guy with prototypical PF size, good athleticism, leading a tourney team would be projected so much lower than a bunch of tweeners who all have warts themselves.
He definitely has questions. But not about his size and length. And not about his ability to block shots at the PF spot. And not really too much with his 3PT% (37%). He also stepped up his game in the tourney with blocks (2.3) and shooting 3's (42%). It tells me he can step up in games that matter. Plus, he got better and better as the season wore on. Our PF needs to have some nastiness as well and this guy has it. There's a lot to like here.
I also like his shot form. It's not so messy that he'll have to rework everything.
I never expect him to be a dominant scorer. But if I'm looking for someone to compliment Ayton this guy fits the bill.
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I think Kabengele should probably be a mid-first round pick or early twenties selection but this is only what I think. It would be nice if the Suns could trade down and get him or some of the other quality big men later in the draft. I do like the big men in this draft... just not early. Height, weight, wingspan athleticism and shooting are going to always be there for him.
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He gets into early foul trouble frequently, that's why he only averaged 21.6 minutes. The coach tended to protect him when he picked up early fouls so his average fouls aren't alarming but he had probably 10 or 12 games where his minutes were restricted because of the calls.
Except he is too slow laterally to defend the power forward position in the NBA. He would need to play center, with Ayton at PF, and we saw how that worked at the U of A...
Again, due to being out of defensive position due to lack of lateral quickness.
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If you want a PF in this draft, take Hunter, and thank your lucky stars you did. He's the Mikal Bridges of PF's in this draft class.
Agreed. He is who I want at 6.
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I suspect we'll take Hunter, Culver or Clarke (our order of preference) and while I'm not in love with any of them, I'm okay with any of them.
I would love Hunter, I would hate Culver, and I would dislike Clarke at 6 (though wouldn't mind him if we traded back 8-10 spots).
