Suns @ Pelicans 11-10-18

[sunsfan88]

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This is unacceptable.

 

[Chaplin]

Him wanting off the team is pure, unsubstantiated conjecture.

BC has been pedaling that story since Booker signed his extension, and even before.

 

[Raze]

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This is unacceptable.

Book can be mad at Ayton all he wants, but he needs to look in the mirror. If you watch Book on this play his footwork is poor and he over pursues his man leaving the back door cut open.

Ayton then has to drop down from the top of the key to defend Book's man on the cut. Something few Centers in the league could do. However Ayton should be severely reprimanded for giving up on the play.

Canaan and Ariza don't exactly help with zero rotation help. They just watched. They don't even flinch to help out OR get in rebounding position. They probably wouldn't have stopped the play, but at least show and make him hesitate. Uggghh. It's been the same all year.

This poor defense is not a one man problem. This entire team has no idea what they are doing on D. It's some of the worst I've ever seen.

Funny enough, watch JJ. He's completely out of the play guarding the top of the weak side. And yet when he realizes that Book got beat and he flinches to go down to help out. Of course he realizes that he's too far away and it's too late.

 

[BC867]

BC has been pedaling that story since Booker signed his extension, and even before.

Let's reconvene this in two years and see where it stands.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Let's reconvene this in two years and see where it stands.

I really don't see it as an issue now but if you're talking about a couple years down the road, yeah, I could see that happening. I really don't think he'll demand a trade at any point in time for what happens now, it will be if we fail to start moving forward in the next couple of years.

 

[sdscard4]

Igor is the NBA Wilks .....way in over his head. The absolute 2 worst hires in all of sports in our backyard

 

[sdscard4]

I really don't see it as an issue now but if you're talking about a couple years down the road, yeah, I could see that happening. I really don't think he'll demand a trade at any point in time for what happens now, it will be if we fail to start moving forward in the next couple of years.

He will be complaining by Christmas....Maybe not about a trade or anything but I guarantee we will see some quote or story where we go hmmm. My guess will be he will start complaining about Igor Wilks and the D. And I couldn't take 2 more years of this we are what at game 10? I'm already freaking disgusted about the direction of this team

 

[Hoop Head]

Not sure if this has been posted, apparently Anderson didn't play because he was having back problems, experiencing tightness in his lower back. Warren missed a game because of back issues and Booker apparently was having issues also. What is Kokoskov doing with the players in practice?

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[ColdPickleNachos]

What is Kokoskov doing with the players in practice?

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I see no evidence that this team has been practicing.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

That’s not what he said.

Enlighten us then.

 

[Hoop Head]

Enlighten us then.

It doesn't work like that. You can't claim Booker said something about wanting out, get called out on it and then ask for proof that he didn't say it. No one can prove he didn't say it either because you can't prove a negative.

The only reason I'll post what Booker actually said is because I already did earlier in this thread after you made that accusation. Here is what he said...

“I’m done with not making the playoffs. I’m serious,” Booker said Wednesday as the Suns conducted their exit interviews following a 21-61 season. “This is probably the last year I’m ever not making the playoffs. That’s putting pressure on myself I need. I’m watching these games right now with teams trying to clinch and the playoff atmosphere of those games and those are the games I want to be in.”

There’s been recent speculation that Booker is so fed up with the Suns’ losing ways he might not sign the five-year, $156 million rookie contract extension Phoenix likely will offer him this summer. Booker, without making a firm commitment, put those fears to rest.

“Don’t believe in nonsense,” he said. “With TV, they need something to talk about. I’ve always mentioned since my first day here that I fell in love with this city, I fell in love with the fan base and the dedication they showed to the team.

“I always think about turning the franchise around, to get it back how it used to be. I watch the highlights of (Charles) Barkley and (Steve) Nash and how alive the arena was. One of my goals is to get it back that way.”

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What part of that says "if the Suns don't make the playoffs in a year or two things might change for him wanting to be here."?

None of it does, so provide proof of what you claim he said because you and BC seem to be the only 2 people who claim he said he wants out.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

It doesn't work like that. You can't claim Booker said something about wanting out, get called out on it and then ask for proof that he didn't say it. No one can prove he didn't say it either because you can't prove a negative.

The only reason I'll post what Booker actually said is because I already did earlier in this thread after you made that accusation. Here is what he said...



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What part of that says "if the Suns don't make the playoffs in a year or two things might change for him wanting to be here."?

None of it does, so provide proof of what you claim he said because you and BC seem to be the only 2 people who claim he said he wants out.

Probably the "This is the last year I dont make the playoffs, Im serious!"
He sure the hell isnt making the playoffs with this team in the near future so you dont need to be nostradamus to see whats coming. Im not the only one speculating on Bookers unhappiness with the team. Gambo & Ash were talking about it this week also. Some of you guys have blinders on. Its more than obvious once you step back and watch and listen even though most of this all speculative. Only Booker knows for sure whatll he'll do but dont be surprised.

 

[95pro]

Book can be mad at Ayton all he wants, but he needs to look in the mirror. If you watch Book on this play his footwork is poor and he over pursues his man leaving the back door cut open.

Ayton then has to drop down from the top of the key to defend Book's man on the cut. Something few Centers in the league could do. However Ayton should be severely reprimanded for giving up on the play.

Canaan and Ariza don't exactly help with zero rotation help. They just watched. They don't even flinch to help out OR get in rebounding position. They probably wouldn't have stopped the play, but at least show and make him hesitate. Uggghh. It's been the same all year.

This poor defense is not a one man problem. This entire team has no idea what they are doing on D. It's some of the worst I've ever seen.

Funny enough, watch JJ. He's completely out of the play guarding the top of the weak side. And yet when he realizes that Book got beat and he flinches to go down to help out. Of course he realizes that he's too far away and it's too late.

Spot on.

 

[Hoop Head]

Probably the "This is the last year I dont make the playoffs, Im serious!"
He sure the hell isnt making the playoffs with this team in the near future so you dont need to be nostradamus to see whats coming. Im not the only one speculating on Bookers unhappiness with the team. Gambo & Ash were talking about it this week also. Some of you guys have blinders on. Its more than obvious once you step back and watch and listen even though most of this all speculative. Only Booker knows for sure whatll he'll do but dont be surprised.

You are ignoring everything he said specifically about wanting to stay in Phoenix and help turn this franchise around and how he's taking it as a personal challenge to never miss the playoffs again. That's the bar he set for himself, he plans to carry this team there and get it back to greatness. That's why he signed his extension, he said he loves this city and does not want to leave. He also said not to believe the talking heads about how he wants out and will ask for a trade. However you are going to ignore all of that to focus on one thing he said during the entire interview and twist it around to support your narrative even though that requires you ignore virtually everything he said before and after the playoff line.

Using Gambo to back up what you're saying doesn't hold water. Gambo changes his mind constantly. Gambo doesn't know any more than we do. If he did then he wouldn't be so in the dark for the moves that have been made.

 

[sdscard4]

I see no evidence that this team has been practicing.

Ha ha best quote in thread....Serbian stretching techniques are not working

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Enlighten us then.

Poop did a great job in the very next post after mine.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Probably the "This is the last year I dont make the playoffs, Im serious!"
He sure the hell isnt making the playoffs with this team in the near future so you dont need to be nostradamus to see whats coming. Im not the only one speculating on Bookers unhappiness with the team. Gambo & Ash were talking about it this week also. Some of you guys have blinders on. Its more than obvious once you step back and watch and listen even though most of this all speculative. Only Booker knows for sure whatll he'll do but dont be surprised.

Lol. You ignore the comment “that’s putting pressure on myself.” Because that completely negates your narrative.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

You are ignoring everything he said specifically about wanting to stay in Phoenix and help turn this franchise around and how he's taking it as a personal challenge to never miss the playoffs again. That's the bar he set for himself, he plans to carry this team there and get it back to greatness. That's why he signed his extension, he said he loves this city and does not want to leave. He also said not to believe the talking heads about how he wants out and will ask for a trade. However you are going to ignore all of that to focus on one thing he said during the entire interview and twist it around to support your narrative even though that requires you ignore virtually everything he said before and after the playoff line.

Using Gambo to back up what you're saying doesn't hold water. Gambo changes his mind constantly. Gambo doesn't know any more than we do. If he did then he wouldn't be so in the dark for the moves that have been made.

Poop. Im just going off feel, what others say, and knowing todays professional sports climate with the players running the league. You dont have to agree. In fact, its better that you dont, along with everybody else who doesnt. But IF and / or when the day comes that Booker pulls out the diva card, Youll be the first one I call out. Feel better?
Again, since most of whats written on this board is pure speculation or conjecture, Im not doing anything different from anybody else. Im following the rules of this board by not swearing or threatening to beat anybody's ass. But if you dont like what I say, you can always put me on ignore. Easy peasy.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Poop. Im just going off feel, what others say, and knowing todays professional sports climate with the players running the league. You dont have to agree. In fact, its better that you dont, along with everybody else who doesnt. But IF and / or when the day comes that Booker pulls out the diva card, Youll be the first one I call out. Feel better?
Again, since most of whats written on this board is pure speculation or conjecture, Im not doing anything different from anybody else. Im following the rules of this board by not swearing or threatening to beat anybody's ass. But if you dont like what I say, you can always put me on ignore. Easy peasy.

You don't see how different this is from your earlier comments? Sure, he might well decide to demand a trade a couple of years down the road. And it's not like any of us here can prove that wrong as it's nothing more than an opinion like most of what we post. But connecting the dots to his previous comments is simply incorrect.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

You don't see how different this is from your earlier comments? Sure, he might well decide to demand a trade a couple of years down the road. And it's not like any of us here can prove that wrong as it's nothing more than an opinion like most of what we post. But connecting the dots to his previous comments is simply incorrect.

I know I didnt recall the correct quote from book. I really dont care anymore at this point. He did say this was the last season he doesnt make the playoffs. And there were rumblings at or around the time BEFORE he signed his new contract. And of course booker will say the right things after being rewarded but that still doesnt guarantee what the future could bring if he see's this team as a lost cause? Again, if theyre talking about it on the radio or by talking with family / friends who watch this team along with bookers body language its not too far fetched to have a different view. Ha. I really didnt think this conversation would turn into the spanish inquisition? Its not really a big deal what he does from where im sitting!

 

[AzStevenCal]

Again, if theyre talking about it on the radio or by talking with family / friends who watch this team along with bookers body language its not too far fetched to have a different view. Ha. I really didnt think this conversation would turn into the spanish inquisition? Its not really a big deal what he does from where im sitting!

I think it's because you're not the only one that is misquoting and misinterpreting Booker's comments. And they are easy to misinterpret if they are taken or presented out of context which so many of the Gambo's of the sports world are wont to do. But like I said, you won't get the same reaction if you just state your opinion about Booker's future here without tying it to comments that have some history here,

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

I think it's because you're not the only one that is misquoting and misinterpreting Booker's comments. And they are easy to misinterpret if they are taken or presented out of context which so many of the Gambo's of the sports world are wont to do. But like I said, you won't get the same reaction if you just state your opinion about Booker's future here without tying it to comments that have some history here,

Possibly? Im just over this team and I dont care really what happens unless for some miracle, someone puts together an investment group to buy the Suns from Saver & company. This team is such a cluster ... that its hard to think straight anymore from all the bad decisions being made. Maybe its best to keep my mouth shut on my inclinations on this team going forward? Ha! Like that will happen.

 

[BC867]

It doesn't work like that. You can't claim Booker said something about wanting out, get called out on it and then ask for proof that he didn't say it. No one can prove he didn't say it either because you can't prove a negative.

The only reason I'll post what Booker actually said is because I already did earlier in this thread after you made that accusation. Here is what he said...

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What part of that says "if the Suns don't make the playoffs in a year or two things might change for him wanting to be here."?

None of it does, so provide proof of what you claim he said because you and BC seem to be the only 2 people who claim he said he wants out.

“I’m done with not making the playoffs. I’m serious.”

What could be more of an implied threat than "done"?

Your saying"Wants out" is present tense. I never said he wants out now. But he is sure letting the team know that, if things don't change, he will.

He also was quoted as saying this was the last season he doesn't make the playoffs.

DBook has made his position for the near future clear.

There is another factor at play. Devin Booker is the team leader. What he says affects every player on the team . . . or any who might otherwise consider coming here.

It is time for Suns fans to look at the big picture.

 

[Hoop Head]

“I’m done with not making the playoffs. I’m serious.”

What could be more of an implied threat than "done"?

Your saying"Wants out" is present tense. I never said he wants out now. But he is sure letting the team know that, if things don't change, he will.

He also was quoted as saying this was the last season he doesn't make the playoffs.

DBook has made his position for the near future clear.

There is another factor at play. Devin Booker is the team leader. What he says affects every player on the team . . . or any who might otherwise consider coming here.

It is time for Suns fans to look at the big picture.

It is time for you to quit cherry picking from Booker's comments to paint a picture that isn't accurate. Read everything he said and apply some of the logic you're using here to it. You say players will listen to him since he's our leader but refuse to think about his positive statements about how he feels. It's like you believe the only thing that matters is him bashing the organization but that hasn't been done.

You refuse to see that he set the playoff bar for him as a personal goal and specifically said for people to ignore the media when they say he wants out because he wants to be here and bring this team back to the postseason.

You're saying he is telling the team he wants out if things don't get better but that's the direct opposite of what he said. He said don't believe the media saying that he doesn't want to be here because he's personally committed to bring this team back to the top of the league.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

But he is sure letting the team know that, if things don't change, he will..

No. That’s not what he said. That’s you interpreting what he said without giving any credence to his next sentences which seem to fly directly in the face of your interpretation.