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How are the Suns going to stop the Thunder? Ibaka, Durant, Westbrook, Harden??

We love pain don't we.. it's not going to be fun to see the young energized Thunder beat down the old Suns in 4 games.
 

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It seems like a few people might be putting the cart before the horse. We still have a killer schedule to finish the season and a playoff berth is far from a sure thing. Instead of dreading about us getting our butts kicked in the first round you can just sit back, relax, and cheer this team on to the lottery. I won't mind the lottery when it happens but I have no problem admitting I'm still cheering for the Suns. I've never bought into the "win it all because nothing else matters" idea. There's a lot of ways to be a fan and I'm sure as Hell not going to apologize for wanting my team to win (EVER).

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It seems like a few people might be putting the cart before the horse. We still have a killer schedule to finish the season and a playoff berth is far from a sure thing. Instead of dreading about us getting our butts kicked in the first round you can just sit back, relax, and cheer this team on to the lottery. I won't mind the lottery when it happens but I have no problem admitting I'm still cheering for the Suns. I've never bought into the "win it all because nothing else matters" idea. There's a lot of ways to be a fan and I'm sure as Hell not going to apologize for wanting my team to win (EVER).

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Agreed... tomorrow night is HUGE! We've got Okla. City, while Houston has Dallas, Denver has the Clippers and Utah has Portland. We have BY FAR the toughest game tomorrow night!
 

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How are the Suns going to stop the Thunder? Ibaka, Durant, Westbrook, Harden??

We love pain don't we.. it's not going to be fun to see the young energized Thunder beat down the old Suns in 4 games.

Grant Hill will shut down Kevin Durant. We have played them well this season.
 

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It seems like a few people might be putting the cart before the horse. We still have a killer schedule to finish the season and a playoff berth is far from a sure thing. Instead of dreading about us getting our butts kicked in the first round you can just sit back, relax, and cheer this team on to the lottery. I won't mind the lottery when it happens but I have no problem admitting I'm still cheering for the Suns. I've never bought into the "win it all because nothing else matters" idea. There's a lot of ways to be a fan and I'm sure as Hell not going to apologize for wanting my team to win (EVER).

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The only sensible post in this 14 page thread. Good job!
 

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Was at the Laker game back on saturday night (4/7th) and I would bet that that was a sell-out.
Given the mediocrity of this team, I've been very, very surprised at the level of support they've received. Very nice to see! :thumbup:

You would lose that bet. Even with 40% Lakers fans, the Suns still don't sell out.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2012/04/17/20120417would-win-restore-phoenix-suns-fans-thunder.html

Not sure what games you're going to, but on most nights there are an awful lot of people dressed as empty seats...

As one of our greatest presidents stated "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
 

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You would lose that bet. Even with 40% Lakers fans, the Suns still don't sell out.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...ld-win-restore-phoenix-suns-fans-thunder.html

Not sure what games you're going to, but on most nights there are an awful lot of people dressed as empty seats...

As one of our greatest presidents stated "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

If the Laker game wasn't a sellout, it was damn close as I honestly don't recall seeing ANY empty seats.
And sure, there might not have been any sellouts this season... not surprising at all. However, as I said, the games that I've been to have been very heavily attended and the arena extremely loud!
Again, I've been very surprised at the level of turnout and enthusiasm I've seen at the games.
 

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It seems like a few people might be putting the cart before the horse. We still have a killer schedule to finish the season and a playoff berth is far from a sure thing. Instead of dreading about us getting our butts kicked in the first round you can just sit back, relax, and cheer this team on to the lottery. I won't mind the lottery when it happens but I have no problem admitting I'm still cheering for the Suns. I've never bought into the "win it all because nothing else matters" idea. There's a lot of ways to be a fan and I'm sure as Hell not going to apologize for wanting my team to win (EVER).

Steve

Playoffs would be interesting to see. I would love to see how the Suns do in a 7 game series against OKC or SA. I would not expect to win the series, but could we win 2 or 3 games? That wouldn't be bad experience for players like Markieff and Marcin.

If we end up in the lottery, fine. We are not getting a top 3 pick. The odds are just too astronomical. So, an interesting test in the playoffs or miniscule odds of getting a decent pick. Pretty even choice.

Its a lose-lose or a win-win, depending on your disposition.
 

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Playoffs would be interesting to see. I would love to see how the Suns do in a 7 game series against OKC or SA. I would not expect to win the series, but could we win 2 or 3 games? That wouldn't be bad experience for players like Markieff and Marcin.

considering that we're a combined 0-5 against SA/OKC losing by an average margin of 11 ppg, I'd say the answer to your question above is there's no way in hell this team would win 2 or 3 games against either one and I've got no interest in watching us getting our asses swept or getting pushed around for 5 games.
 

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This seems relevant to the thread so I'll post here instead of starting a new one.

Here's one man's opinion on tanking (which I largely agree with): http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id...zards-other-nba-teams-tanking-hardest-stretch

And the most relevant section...

I promised not to whinge about tanking, but here goes: Unless you're getting Anthony Davis, you might as well play with a modicum of competitive spirit. There's no real difference between, say, the fourth pick and the ninth pick in this year's draft. Is it really worth throwing away games and pissing off ticket holders to slightly improve your odds of bringing Thomas Robinson to town?

The sports-rational answer is yes — NBA teams can only signficantly improve when they pick up a great player. But I'm not convinced that (a) tanking for the no. 1 pick really improves your odds of landing the best player in the draft, or (b) even if your team improves, the fortunes of your franchise will follow suit. For every Oklahoma City, there's an Atlanta — a perennially decent team with exciting players that nobody really gives a **** about. If you're willing to tank a quarter of the regular season because you think your front office can replicate Oklahoma City's magic, let me remind you of the following facts:

A. Nobody really understands the NBA draft. The idea that a GM could reliably say, "I know exactly how the difference between the no. 4 and no. 6 picks will play out" is absolutely ludicrous.

B. If the Sonics had the first pick in the 2007 draft, they would have taken Greg Oden (another can't-miss prospect, by the way) over Kevin Durant. If they had the second pick in the 2008 draft, they would have taken Michael Beasley over Russell Westbrook. Yes, the Thunder put themselves in position to draft those players by having truly bad regular seasons, but they still managed to trot Durant out there for every game down the stretch. And while we can all appreciate Sam Presti's skill and patience in running a team, I don't think the success of the Thunder means that every team should conclude that tanking is the only way to build a contender.

C. Durant is a once-in-a-generation talent. Most years, when you have the no. 2 and the no. 4 pick, you end up with Marvin Williams and Shaun Livingston.

D. Lastly, it's frigging basketball. It's supposed to be entertainment. Let's stop talking about the construction of sports teams like we're building an army to go invade China, or that tanking is a necessary sacrifice along the lines of what Jesus gave up for our sins. Nobody knows if Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is going to be Marvin Williams of if he's going to be a super version of Luol Deng. Why defile the competitive nature of the sport for such uncertainty? And if you want to talk straight business, maybe it's worth wondering if your jaded fan base will even care if your team goes from 18 to 38 wins. Atlanta certainly doesn't give a **** what the Hawks are doing. And Warriors fans are still showing up to Oracle.
 

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considering that we're a combined 0-5 against SA/OKC losing by an average margin of 11 ppg, I'd say the answer to your question above is there's no way in hell this team would win 2 or 3 games against either one and I've got no interest in watching us getting our asses swept or getting pushed around for 5 games.

I think it's much more likely that we somehow push OKC/SA to 7 games and lose as either team goes on to the Finals. Sarver will point to this as confirmation of the current strategy. And we'll have to hear all summer from Gentry and management that we were so close.
 
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I think it's much more likely that we somehow push OKC/SA to 7 games and lose as either team goes on to the Finals. Sarver will point to this as confirmation of the current strategy. And we'll have to hear all summer from Gentry and management that we were so close.

I'm all for making the playoffs regardless of how we fare once we get there. But, like you, I'm also concerned that Sarver will consider it proof of his genius and it will be all he'll need to trot out the same type of thing next year. I see nothing wrong with being a team capable of no more than a first or second round exit. I see a lot wrong with aiming for that as a philosophy.

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I'm all for making the playoffs regardless of how we fare once we get there. But, like you, I'm also concerned that Sarver will consider it proof of his genius and it will be all he'll need to trot out the same type of thing next year. I see nothing wrong with being a team capable of no more than a first or second round exit. I see a lot wrong with aiming for that as a philosophy.

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Squeaking into the playoffs as a youthful growing team is awesome. Narrowly making it as an old declining team on its last leg is pitiful. The NBA playoffs is not a Rocky sequel or a bad Disney movie.
 

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Squeaking into the playoffs as a youthful growing team is awesome. Narrowly making it as an old declining team on its last leg is pitiful. The NBA playoffs is not a Rocky sequel or a bad Disney movie.

agreed.

LOVED seeing the 8 seed Marbury, Marion, JJ, rookie of the year Amare take on the Spurs because it was a really young team getting their first shot of playoff basketball... and taking it to the Spurs pretty good.

This team is old and has no future and is going to get worked. that just does nothing for me. it's not even like this is a "last hurrah" for a team that's been together a long time with players we've come to love for years and have real affinity for. This is just a motley crew with one holdover from a really fun era looking for a mercy killing.
 

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agreed.

LOVED seeing the 8 seed Marbury, Marion, JJ, rookie of the year Amare take on the Spurs because it was a really young team getting their first shot of playoff basketball... and taking it to the Spurs pretty good.

This team is old and has no future and is going to get worked. that just does nothing for me.


Don't disagree with that at all... Still - I am going to do my best to enjoy where they're at. Which is not in the basement, getting worked by scrub teams night after night. They are still entertaining to watch - at least for now. And if they do squeak into the playoffs, I'll enjoy that as well versus the alternative of not watching my team in the post season.
We don't know what tomorrow will bring. So, next year and the years to follow - who knows. Maybe we take some steps backward, maybe we don't...
I'll grant you that the odds are virtually non-existent relative to our getting that much better than we are today. And that the odds are better that we get much worse. But again - who the heck really knows...

Just enjoy the ride for now... I am.
 

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Don't disagree with that at all... Still - I am going to do my best to enjoy where they're at. Which is not in the basement, getting worked by scrub teams night after night. They are still entertaining to watch - at least for now. And if they do squeak into the playoffs, I'll enjoy that as well versus the alternative of not watching my team in the post season.
We don't know what tomorrow will bring. So, next year and the years to follow - who knows. Maybe we take some steps backward, maybe we don't...
I'll grant you that the odds are virtually non-existent relative to our getting that much better than we are today. And that the odds are better that we get much worse. But again - who the heck really knows...

Just enjoy the ride for now... I am.

yeah... i just think the ride kinda sucks. Did you enjoy watching the game against the Spurs on Saturday? Cause that's likely how this ride is going to end.

if we make the playoffs, I'll have no problem hoping they do as well as possible there because there's no point doing anything else. But i truly have no desire to watch this team get destroyed there. I'd rather take the .5 percent chance of winning the lottery than 100% chance of getting destroyed in the playoffs.
 

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Why do people call the Suns an old team? The only players aged 29 or older are Nash, Hill, and Redd. This is a young team growing together. Obviously the talent level of the young players isn't that high, but that seems like a spiteful reason to want to deny them playoff experience.
 

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yeah... i just think the ride kinda sucks. Did you enjoy watching the game against the Spurs on Saturday? Cause that's likely how this ride is going to end.

if we make the playoffs, I'll have no problem hoping they do as well as possible there because there's no point doing anything else. But i truly have no desire to watch this team get destroyed there. I'd rather take the .5 percent chance of winning the lottery than 100% chance of getting destroyed in the playoffs.

Yea... the Spurs game royally sucked... But, I was sitting courtside when we beat up on the Lakers (sans Kobe of course) - which never gets old and never sucks! ;)

Watching the team get destroyed is not fun at all. That Suns game was brutal, in large part because Nash barely played. He says he's healthy now and if he is, I don't see us getting crushed in the post season. Beat? Yes... but, not like a pounding rock-band drum. Just a nice, soft, smooth tone of an island steel drum perhaps! :D
 
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Why do people call the Suns an old team? The only players aged 29 or older are Nash, Hill, and Redd. This is a young team growing together. Obviously the talent level of the young players isn't that high, but that seems like a spiteful reason to want to deny them playoff experience.


Well, I'm not one of those guys... but, I will say that Frye "plays old" IMHO... and Gortat just looks old. And Lopez.... well... JugHead would be pretty old today wouldn't he?? :D
 

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Why do people call the Suns an old team? The only players aged 29 or older are Nash, Hill, and Redd. This is a young team growing together. Obviously the talent level of the young players isn't that high, but that seems like a spiteful reason to want to deny them playoff experience.

because the only thing that keeps this motley crew of talent together is Nash. Without him, they'd be the worst team in the league IMO and I really don't see the point in the worst team in the league gaining playoff experience because it's likely that any title contender that's ever rebuilt on this team will have pretty much none of those guys left.
 

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Just enjoy the ride for now... I am.

I can't help picturing Sarver driving a beat-up Nash Rambler with 200,000 miles and 4 flat tires. He's got the pedal to the floor and a **** eating grin on his face. It's just a matter of time.
 
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Still a lot of time left, but Houston seems to be pulling away from Dallas and Denver is beating the Clips. Not goooooood.
 
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