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So the Bulls will have Harrison and Ulis. Interesting.

The Bulls have a plethora of PG's, Kris Dunn, Cameron Payne, Ryan Arcidiancono, and Zach LaVine. Adding Ulis and Harrison doesn't make sense unless they have a move lined up but they can't trade LaVine and they seemed happy with Dunn.
 

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The Bulls have a plethora of PG's, Kris Dunn, Cameron Payne, Ryan Arcidiancono, and Zach LaVine. Adding Ulis and Harrison doesn't make sense unless they have a move lined up but they can't trade LaVine and they seemed happy with Dunn.

It's hard to know the Bulls thinking. Maybe they even waive Ulis :shrug:
 

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Big fight in the Lakers-Rockets game. Ingram, Paul, and Rondo all threw punches.

Wouldn't be shocked if Rondo and Ingram get two game suspensions, which would affect the Suns.
 

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I think it's funny that with all of the world-class knuckleheads the Lakers brought onto the team in the offseason, Brandon Ingram is the first guy to cause real problems.

Also, this tweet is the best:

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Ingram, I'd think, will get at least 3-4 games. He started it all, he got in the refs face (I can't believe he wasn't tossed then) then reenters the fray to throw hay makers. 3 should be the minimum.

Paul and Rondo, I'd guess, will get 2 games a piece, maybe an extra for Rondo.

Have fun over there Luke! And LeBron better be out on his patio enjoying the weather... because that team looks like one of his worst options.

Ingram's play this year is encouraging. Probably the only way I felt the Lakers could contend for a title in the near term is Ingram becoming a star. But he still looks like a mercurial dope who is more interested in looking fancy than being effective.
 

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Ingram will never be a star if. He will be a solid NBA player who shows flashes every now and then.

He just looks like he doesn't have that drive.
 

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Jimmy Butler DNP last night, maybe a trade coming soon
 

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I just don't get why Ingram shoved Harden? That wasn't even close to the worst of Harden creating contact with pushoffs etc it was a normal basketball play. All he was doing was asking for the and 1, which I think was the right call.

If Rondo did spit on Paul he'll get a longer suspension for provocation. But yeah Ingram has to be 3-4 games for sure because he started it and then came back in throwing punches.
 

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I just don't get why Ingram shoved Harden? That wasn't even close to the worst of Harden creating contact with pushoffs etc it was a normal basketball play. All he was doing was asking for the and 1, which I think was the right call.

If Rondo did spit on Paul he'll get a longer suspension for provocation. But yeah Ingram has to be 3-4 games for sure because he started it and then came back in throwing punches.

You think that few? You could be right since it's the Lakers involved but I would say no less than 5 for Rondo, Paul, and Ingram. If Rondo spit, his goes up to 8-10. Ingram's will probably go up also, staying in line with Rondo. If they get less than 5 games though that's simply because they are the Lakers.
 

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I just don't get why Ingram shoved Harden? That wasn't even close to the worst of Harden creating contact with pushoffs etc it was a normal basketball play. All he was doing was asking for the and 1, which I think was the right call.

If Rondo did spit on Paul he'll get a longer suspension for provocation. But yeah Ingram has to be 3-4 games for sure because he started it and then came back in throwing punches.

I totally get why he shoved him. I want to shove him as a fan watching from home, and that's despite the fact that I want the Lakers to lose every single game they play.

Harden has turned getting fouled into an art form. I hate it. It's bad for the game. He's within the rules and he's exceptional at it. But let's face it...one of the very worst thing about sports is that referees often have too much of an impact on games. Harden is an expert in manipulating referees to gain an unfair advantage. It's within his rights and other players can do and often do do the same. But he's the best at it.

So when he's playing the game in a way many other players likely don't respect...AND he's doing it so well that it's working and feels impossible to stop...AND he's complaining to the refs and taunting his opponents...

Should you shove him? Of course not.

Do I get it? Absolutely.

It's built up frustration over a guy who is doing something incredibly frustrating and doing it exceptionally well.
 

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The more times I watch the "fight" the more I don't think Rondo spit. If he did then Paul is a punk for simply putting his finger in his face like that. At that point a punch was going to be thrown in retaliation and understandably so. He poked him Rondo in the face with his finger while trying to talk down to him. You're not talking someone up like that. Rondo threw a punch and then they flew for a minute before Ingram came in from nowhere with another punk move. It was bad enough he started it with the Harden shove but him sliding in like Jermaine O'Neal back in the day during the "Malice in the Palace" when a fan came on the court toward the end and got clocked. Different scenario but same sort of sliding punch was thrown.

My guess on suspensions is
Rondo 5 games
Paul 5 games
Ingram 8 games

That's if there isn't a ref who backs the spitting theory. With Rondo spitting then he jumps up to match Ingram.
 

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The more times I watch the "fight" the more I don't think Rondo spit. If he did then Paul is a punk for simply putting his finger in his face like that.

Here's my favorite theory:

It was Melo! :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

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Here's my favorite theory:

It was Melo! :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

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Not sure if you've ever seen/heard any Bob Menery on Twitter but he's pretty good. He does play by play of various current sporting events and goes off the rails. NSFW video, strong language....


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Not sure if you've ever seen/heard any Bob Menery on Twitter but he's pretty good. He does play by play of various current sporting events and goes off the rails. NSFW video, strong language....


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The clip isn't working for me for whatever reason. And definitely on Seinfeld. I've seen several Seinfeld comments already in connection with "spitgate" hahaha!
 

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Ingram was the primary culprit as he initiated the event, shoves Harden, perhaps confronts an official and then comes back to throw a punch.

Of course Rondo and Paul have their own thing going with punches thrown. I guess prefer Paul's version better than Rondo but they both deserve suspensions.

No doubt Harden has perfected the art of getting fouls called on opponents but this is nothing new.
 

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The clip isn't working for me for whatever reason. And definitely on Seinfeld. I've seen several Seinfeld comments already in connection with "spitgate" hahaha!

He took the tweet down with it, apparently Twitter & copyright complaint. He has it on instagram now, again NSFW audio.

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The more times I watch the "fight" the more I don't think Rondo spit. If he did then Paul is a punk for simply putting his finger in his face like that.
Are you saying that putting your finger in someone's face is worse than spitting in it or did you mean to say "If he didn't then..."
 
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