The 2019 Draft

[Superbone]

Is he the one with the little top knot on his head? He did play some last night if that is him?

He did play but not until both Ayton and Chandler were in foul trouble.

 

[hcsilla]

We need to go after Mirotic. He can play both pf and center. He can start at pf but also play back up center.

I doubt that Mirotic can play C but he still might be a top target for the Suns as a premier shooter, solid rebounder and defender, plus the former yugoslavian (or even serbian?) connection with Kokoshkov.

 

[Mainstreet]

We need to go after Mirotic. He can play both pf and center. He can start at pf but also play back up center.

I couldn't agree more. However, it's hard to see him leaving the Pelicans. He looks to be one of their core players.

 

[Russ Smith]

Rough hit today for 19 draft prospect Johntay Porter, brother of Michael. Johntay tor his ACL and MCL in one of those "secret scrimmages" today and is out for the year.

 

[Hoop Head]

I couldn't agree more. However, it's hard to see him leaving the Pelicans. He looks to be one of their core players.

He looked like a part of Chicago's core also. New Orleans can't afford to let him go though. Not only is he a great fit next to Anthony Davis, AD isn't going to tolerate his best teammates leaving every offseason. The Pelicans need to overpay if it's necessary to keep him. Since they know he works next to AD well, overpaying to retain him isn't as bad as overpaying to bring him in.

 

[Hoop Head]

Rough hit today for 19 draft prospect Johntay Porter, brother of Michael. Johntay tor his ACL and MCL in one of those "secret scrimmages" today and is out for the year.

Sadly his brother's injury won't help either and will more than likely hurt his stock. He was one of the few "other brothers" I wouldn't have minded the Suns grabbing. He's no Taylor Griffin but that's a good thing.

 

[Mainstreet]

He looked like a part of Chicago's core also. New Orleans can't afford to let him go though. Not only is he a great fit next to Anthony Davis, AD isn't going to tolerate his best teammates leaving every offseason. The Pelicans need to overpay if it's necessary to keep him. Since they know he works next to AD well, overpaying to retain him isn't as bad as overpaying to bring him in.

We agree. The Pelicans will do whatever is necessary to keep Mirotic.

 

[overseascardfan]

Is Morant really any better of a prospect than Okobo? Is Bowman really any better of a prospect than Melton? We need a capable veteran point guard, not yet another project.

I agree but there is a reason PHX couldn't land an elite PG like Lillard and supposedly it wasn't for lack of trying. PHX would have to part with most likely Josh Jackson in any potential deal. If PHX could get a Lillard without giving up Jackson I would be all ears even if it meant dealing our own first rounder with no protection but I think POR would insist on that in addition to Jackson and not sure PHX is willing to give up that much.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

I agree but there is a reason PHX couldn't land an elite PG like Lillard and supposedly it wasn't for lack of trying. PHX would have to part with most likely Josh Jackson in any potential deal. If PHX could get a Lillard without giving up Jackson I would be all ears even if it meant dealing our own first rounder with no protection but I think POR would insist on that in addition to Jackson and not sure PHX is willing to give up that much.

I bet they'd give up Jackson for Lillard. Not that they're open to trading Jackson, but Lillard is really, really, really good.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I agree but there is a reason PHX couldn't land an elite PG like Lillard and supposedly it wasn't for lack of trying. PHX would have to part with most likely Josh Jackson in any potential deal. If PHX could get a Lillard without giving up Jackson I would be all ears even if it meant dealing our own first rounder with no protection but I think POR would insist on that in addition to Jackson and not sure PHX is willing to give up that much.

If we could get Lillard by giving up Jackson, I would do it in a heartbeat and consider it a draft pick well spent.

 

[95pro]

I love JJ but how many JJ's and Lillards are there, lots of JJ's and few Liliards

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Man let’s give JJ a bit more of a chance with better coaching. I mean he got terrible coaching last season and still showed promise. He’s had one year of college and one year of nba.

And as much as I love lilliard, he’s 29, right? He can likely give us, what, 3-4 years of high octane? That means when this team is likely ready for contention (not just playoffs, but contention) he’s likely tailing off. And likely at a high $$$$ amount too.

Don’t get me wrong, I think we need an impact vet with all the youngins but I’d prefer it be someone not tiptoeing into their 30s this year.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Man let’s give JJ a bit more of a chance with better coaching. I mean he got terrible coaching last season and still showed promise. He’s had one year of college and one year of nba.

And as much as I love lilliard, he’s 29, right? He can likely give us, what, 3-4 years of high octane? That means when this team is likely ready for contention (not just playoffs, but contention) he’s likely tailing off. And likely at a high $$$$ amount too.

Don’t get me wrong, I think we need an impact vet with all the youngins but I’d prefer it be someone not tiptoeing into their 30s this year.

Trading JJ for Lillard would not be giving up on him. You have to give up something of value to get something of value. I would expect JJ would have a very good career ahead of him. But Portland would not do that deal so its moot anyway.

 

[95pro]

Trading JJ for Lillard would not be giving up on him. You have to give up something of value to get something of value. I would expect JJ would have a very good career ahead of him. But Portland would not do that deal so its moot anyway.

Maybe after they blow it up this season as they once again fail to live up to expectations.

BUT if that does happen, then why do we want a guy like Lillard who never lived up to expectations?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Maybe after they blow it up this season as they once again fail to live up to expectations.

BUT if that does happen, then why do we want a guy like Lillard who never lived up to expectations?

Well. We are going to have trust some people. James Jones seems to be smart and well-liked. He has a LOT of championship experience and from the perspective of a role player (which is a plus in my book). I have a lot of doubts about him. He is so inexperienced as a GM, has not ever had to negotiate a trade, etc. But he is what we have. I think his perspective on what elements it takes to put together a championship team is probably pretty good. How to get those pieces is another matter.

All that to say that if Lillard is a worthy piece, James Jones probably know it as well as anyone.

Igor has enough experience and expertise as well.

We are in an interesting stage of rebuilding. Many teams never rise beyond this point. They get out of the cellar but never to contention. Hope we do better than that.

 

[95pro]

I just hope we aren't the Rockets and go after players like CP3 and Melo.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I just hope we aren't the Rockets and go after players like CP3 and Melo.

CP3++good
Melo ----not good.

I do not see these two as the same in any way.

 

[95pro]

CP3++good
Melo ----not good.

I do not see these two as the same in any way.

CP3 never proven to win, old, injuries, overpaid.

Melo was never as great a player as they made him out to be, overpaid too.

 

[Phrazbit]

CP3 never proven to win, old, injuries, overpaid.

Melo was never as great a player as they made him out to be, overpaid too.

Paul has been a winner throughout his career. I get the injury part and the age part.

Melo isn't in his stratosphere. Melo might be the most overrated player in NBA history.

 

[GatorAZ]

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[Hoop Head]

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That court design is awful. It looked like a buffering video at first that wasn't quite done. Then I realized they actually meant to have their court look like that.


Bol Bol is an interesting prospect. I think he could play alongside Ayton but I'm not sure if that's the best way to use him.

 

[Proximo]

That court design is awful. It looked like a buffering video at first that wasn't quite done. Then I realized they actually meant to have their court look like that.


Bol Bol is an interesting prospect. I think he could play alongside Ayton but I'm not sure if that's the best way to use him.

He looks like his legs are going to snap at any moment.

I think he is more of a mid first round pick than a lottery guy. A crowd favorite, but not a consistent producer. But heck who knows the NBA is getting softer every year.

 

[Proximo]

So I just looked at the mock, and this draft does not matchup well with the suns needs. Seems almost all the top prospects are all wings, other than Zion who is kind of like a wing, but I think will be a Barkley/Lebron like PF - who would be my pick at #1.

First PG isn't listed till 13. No other true PF till 19.

 

[Hoop Head]

So I just looked at the mock, and this draft does not matchup well with the suns needs. Seems almost all the top prospects are all wings, other than Zion who is kind of like a wing, but I think will be a Barkley/Lebron like PF - who would be my pick at #1.

First PG isn't listed till 13. No other true PF till 19.

Yeah, 1 PG at #13 and there aren't more until the mid 20's, which I think are equivalent to early 2nd rounders. The players taken towards the end of the 1st round are generally older and able to contribute right away or they're very long term projects. With those picks falling to teams in contention they can handle either type of player and typically pick whichever they need more, players who can help if they have a lot of free agents or projects if they have no youth. It's Zion or trade, I think. We could probably net a decent return for a top 5 pick, whether it's from another lottery team or a playoff team. Ideally we could get a PG and a future pick.

 

[JCSunsfan]

So I just looked at the mock, and this draft does not matchup well with the suns needs. Seems almost all the top prospects are all wings, other than Zion who is kind of like a wing, but I think will be a Barkley/Lebron like PF - who would be my pick at #1.

First PG isn't listed till 13. No other true PF till 19.

That’s why trading this year’s pick is a good idea. We get more of a sure thing. We need to fill a need, not be thinking about BPA.