The 2023-24 league year

[kerouac9]

Man if only CBs matched up against QBs and not WRs, you'd be right.

Tito Paul played a lot of snaps for a Broncos Super Bowl team, so freaking crown his ass. What a dumb argument.

K

 

[Dayman]

Now add up the salaries.

You get what you pay for.

 

[BritCard]

Things both players have in common: draw the opponent's toughest matchup, average-ish pass rushes.

Where both players differ: Byron Murphy has faced down Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, and Jalen Hurts. Marco Wilson has squared off with the immortal Sam Howell, Danny Dimes, and one-legged Joe Burrow. These are not the same.

Anyone who truly thinks that Marco Wilson and Byron Murphy are the same quality of player need to look up from the stat sheet/log off from PFF. CB metrics are exceedingly fake and non-predictive. Byron isn't Sauce Gardner, but you don't have to squint very hard to visualize him as the starting corner for a playoff team.

Spoiler

Hint: He's already been one

I've watched Murphy for 4 years. They are very much not the same player. But they very much are similar quality levels in a different style of player.

I really do not get some fans obsessions with Byron Murphy. He was a total JAG in his 4 years here. The jaggiest of jags. The Cards version of Rock Ya-Sin or Rashad Fenton. On his best days he's as mid as they come.

I know exactly what Murphy is and he's never getting better. At least Wilson is only entering year 3 and has the chance at some upside because he at least has elite physical traits. Murphy has neither the physical traits or the mental processing to hide his limitation.

As much as Wilson is pissing me off I'd still go with Wilson if they were earning the same money. The fact that Byron is earning 8x more doesn't even put him in the conversation.

Talk about clinging to a narrative. The league told you exactly what they think of Byron Murphy when nobody was interested in him for more than $9m a year and 2 years (really one year as no money G's in year 2) and the only people who think anything else are you, Chopper and a handful of other die hards.

For a 25 year old CB that's a solid F grade.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

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Wirfs, the one that got away

What was SK thinking?

 

[PACardsFan]

Wirfs, the one that got away

What was SK thinking?

Simmons had the hyped name recognition, Lamb was liked by many on this board. But, if history has taught us anything, when in doubt, take the OLineman.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Simmons had the hyped name recognition, Lamb was liked by many on this board. But, if history has taught us anything, when in doubt, take the OLineman.

There were many on this board wanting us to take Wirfs

 

[PJ1]

There were many on this board wanting us to take Wirfs

True but Simmons was not some out of left field pick. I recall one publication had him as the top player in the draft. What scared me was nobody seemed to know how his skills would translate into the NFL.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

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[reebokalone2001]

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Wow for Marco Wilson and Rasul Douglas.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Bears will wear No. 51 jersey patches honoring Dick Butkus

For the rest of the season, Bears players will wear a jersey patch honoring the memory of Hall of Fame linebacker Dick Butkus, the team announced Friday.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[TheCardFan]

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[RON_IN_OC]

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Smith was definitely known more for what he did his last 5-6 years, for sure...he defied his age and actually got better...leaned on his experience to win matchups...and never lost much of his speed.

We'd really have to do a deep dive into his mentality and how he carried himself early in his career...and compare that with Jeudy, IMO.

 

[kerouac9]

Smith was definitely known more for what he did his last 5-6 years, for sure...he defied his age and actually got better...leaned on his experience to win matchups...and never lost much of his speed.

We'd really have to do a deep dive into his mentality and how he carried himself early in his career...and compare that with Jeudy, IMO.

Steve Smith was a special teams player his first season (first-team all pro) and injured his fourth. The tweet is a troll.

 

[TheCardFan]

Steve Smith was a special teams player his first season (first-team all pro) and injured his fourth. The tweet is a troll.

True but then he had a huge career.

I think the main difference is Jeudy doesn't seem to be a dawg.

 

[kerouac9]

True but then he had a huge career.

I think the main difference is Jeudy doesn't seem to be a dawg.

Bro I love Steve Smith. People said Rondale Moores size wasn’t a problem because Steve Smith exists but he’s the exception that proves the rule.

You can be a physical outlier but then you have to have a completely deranged love of football and competition to get through it.

Neither Hollywood nor Rondale seem to have that, which is why they’ll never be great.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Steve Smith was a special teams player his first season (first-team all pro) and injured his fourth. The tweet is a troll.

Jeudy was hurt most of his 2nd year and is only 5 games into year 4. Dude may be a troll, but the stats are the stats. It's more about mental make-up, than talent. Maybe Jeudy can figure it out.

I'd rather see guys like Smith offer to mentor guys like Jeudy, than just tear them down publicly. JMO

 

[Chopper0080]

Byron Murphy with an int in coverage vs DJ Moore to seal it for the Vikings.

 

[oaken1]

Jeudy was hurt most of his 2nd year and is only 5 games into year 4. Dude may be a troll, but the stats are the stats. It's more about mental make-up, than talent. Maybe Jeudy can figure it out.

I'd rather see guys like Smith offer to mentor guys like Jeudy, than just tear them down publicly. JMO

When Steve played the guys on the other team were actually allowed to play defense

 

[kerouac9]

Byron Murphy with an int in coverage vs DJ Moore to seal it for the Vikings.

That can’t be right. I’ve been told many times that he’s garbage

 

[TheCardFan]

That can’t be right. I’ve been told many times that he’s garbage

Thrown 10 yards short by an undrafted free agent rookie QB. He is reaching.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

That can’t be right. I’ve been told many times that he’s garbage

I'll just leave this here.

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[ajcardfan]

Thrown 10 yards short by an undrafted free agent rookie QB. He is reaching.

To be fair to the QB it was the hit he took that made it short.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

That can’t be right. I’ve been told many times that he’s garbage

Has anyone actually said garbage?

 

[Chopper0080]

So now it matters who is throwing the ball if an int is actually a quality play?