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.Murray is a bargain, now.You must be registered for see images attach
LMAO...I bet the locker room is brutalWell this is awkward.
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After stealing a high paycheck for how long?Murray is a bargain, now.You must be registered for see images attach
How so? Last year was the first year of his extension and while it could be said he didn't earn it last year, he did everything asked of him and worked his butt off to comeback. His base salary in 2022 was under a million. This season will actually be the first time his base salary is over $2 million.After stealing a high paycheck for how long?
He got the bag in 2022. For two years, he hasn't earned it and hasn't been value for money. You can try to parse words all you want with "base salary" but he got the bag and base salary doesn't include the big $$$ he was gifted for no reason, that he has never earned. Without a doubt, the doubters were proven correct on NOT giving him the big money when we did, but Keim will Keim.How so? Last year was the first year of his extension and while it could be said he didn't earn it last year, he did everything asked of him and worked his butt off to comeback. His base salary in 2022 was under a million. This season will actually be the first time his base salary is over $2 million.
He got a huge signing bonus in 2019 of $24 million and definitely earned that his first 3 years. Year 4 was horrible, zero argument there and he didn't earn his paycheck, but it was the final of his rookie deal. Last year he also a giant bonus and will get another $100 million this year in bonuses.
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Here is the cap hit for each year too.
I don't think he stole $16 million last year. $12 million the year before pales to the $20 million we paid Sam Bradford in 2018 for 3 games, but still too high considering.
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The injury was a big part of the reason for Kyler not meeting expectations during his new contract.He got the bag in 2022. For two years, he hasn't earned it and hasn't been value for money. You can try to parse words all you want with "base salary" but he got the bag and base salary doesn't include the big $$$ he was gifted for no reason, that he has never earned. Without a doubt, the doubters were proven correct on NOT giving him the big money when we did, but Keim will Keim.
Let's hope he earns it this year, but even with other QBs getting more now, he's still overpaid until he earns it. He has earned nothing...yet.
No, no other option and he did enough to earn a shot this season. I was simply responding to the "his deal doesn't look too bad now" nonsense. It was a terrible deal that never should have happened. Those who wanted him to prove it for another year were totally vindicated, because Kyler's suckage was also a big part of the reason for Kyler not meeting expectations. Lest we forget, Kyler was godawful before his injury and was vastly overpaid. History has now shown the team should have waited another year to do a deal, because the deal would have been a lot more team friendly and we wouldn't have been paying good money for bad play (and injury).The injury was a big part of the reason for Kyler not meeting expectations during his new contract.
This is very much a situation where there isn't exactly any other option, unless you decide to move on. Kyler did just enough over his rookie contract to make that idea look like bad one.
Since last season, Kyler has said and done all of the right things.
That's how you alienate players. The Cardinals signing Murray to a long term commitment is what we as fans want.No, no other option and he did enough to earn a shot this season. I was simply responding to the "his deal doesn't look too bad now" nonsense. It was a terrible deal that never should have happened. Those who wanted him to prove it for another year were totally vindicated, because Kyler's suckage was also a big part of the reason for Kyler not meeting expectations.
Two time Pro Bowler and Rookie of the year? I'll sign up for that awful.Lest we forget, Kyler was godawful before his injury and was vastly overpaid.
This would only be true if we knew how the alternate universe worked out.History has now shown the team should have waited another year to do a deal, because the deal would have been a lot more team friendly and we wouldn't have been paying good money for bad play (and injury).
I believe Keim stated at the time of KM’s contract it would appear a bargain in a few years. Now it’s up to the whole team including Kyler to establish the bargain as stated.That's how you alienate players. The Cardinals signing Murray to a long term commitment is what we as fans want.
Vindicated? It's a long deal. You could be "vindicated" for one year, only to look foolish a year down the road. That's how these deals can work out.
Two time Pro Bowler and Rookie of the year? I'll sign up for that awful.
This would only be true if we knew how the alternate universe worked out.
Well, at least you didn't say that we should have gone with Dobbs or Pickett from Pittsburgh. And is't good to hear that someone thinks that the longer you wait the lower the QB salary.No, no other option and he did enough to earn a shot this season. I was simply responding to the "his deal doesn't look too bad now" nonsense. It was a terrible deal that never should have happened. Those who wanted him to prove it for another year were totally vindicated, because Kyler's suckage was also a big part of the reason for Kyler not meeting expectations. Lest we forget, Kyler was godawful before his injury and was vastly overpaid. History has now shown the team should have waited another year to do a deal, because the deal would have been a lot more team friendly and we wouldn't have been paying good money for bad play (and injury).
You were soooo close.How so? Last year was the first year of his extension and while it could be said he didn't earn it last year, he did everything asked of him and worked his butt off to comeback. His base salary in 2022 was under a million. This season will actually be the first time his base salary is over $2 million.
He got a huge signing bonus in 2019 of $24 million and definitely earned that his first 3 years. Year 4 was horrible, zero argument there and he didn't earn his paycheck, but it was the final of his rookie deal. Last year he also a giant bonus and will get another $100 million this year in bonuses.
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Here is the cap hit for each year too.
I don't think he stole $16 million last year. $12 million the year before pales to the $20 million we paid Sam Bradford in 2018 for 3 games, but still too high considering.
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I pointed that out and even said he was over paid in 2022. Prior, he wasn't and last year he did exactly what he needed coming back from an injury. This, IMHO, is his make or break year for the new deal since he got $100 million in checks (direct depost?) this last offseason.You were soooo close.
Kyler Murray has been paid $33.8 million for the 2022 and 2023 seasons. He got a $7.2 million option bonus on March 23 2023 that brought his income to $9.3 million.
Even after the latest round of extensions, Kyler's still has the 8th-highest guarantees among QBs. He hasn't been close to a top 10 QB since before he signed that contract.
I think "stole money" is always inflammatory. He's probably going to put that money to better use than Michael Bidwill would -- even if it's mostly vBucks and such.I pointed that out and even said he was over paid in 2022. Prior, he wasn't and last year he did exactly what he needed coming back from an injury. This, IMHO, is his make or break year for the new deal since he got $100 million in checks (direct depost?) this last offseason.
The question is, do you agree with the OP that he stole money from the Cardinals? If he's not top 10 this year, then I will absolutely agree he is now. But up to this point, he was definitely over paid in 2022, but otherwise he hasn't. Again, all IMHO.