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The Ayton Plan
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Have some freaking accountability, a hole.
Bufalay
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Further support for my contrarian opinion that he isn't lazy, he's just clueless.
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A sign and trade with Dallas for Kyrie makes sense if Kyrie tells them he aint coming back.
Ayton / Something
Kyrie / Kleber
I hate thinking about it but it fixes our CP3 problem as well.
Ayton / Something
Kyrie / Kleber
I hate thinking about it but it fixes our CP3 problem as well.
AD: yeah. normally i give about 50% effort, on that particular play it was 0%.... "Im an entertainer looking to get paid"
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Expecting Kyrie to be a net positive here when he hasn't been a net positive since having LeBron daddying him is nuts.
I'd rather trade Ayton to a team like Portland for multiple complimentary pieces than take another huge risk on an aging star, covered in red flags.
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DA has value on the court but it isn't close to what he's getting paid. I'm not sure there's a team out there willing to give us complementary pieces for a negative value contract with 3 years remaining. If so, great, but I suspect we're going to have to take a risky deal back.
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I'd be fine with trading Ayton to someone we play often. No, scratch that, I'd be in favor of trading Ayton to someone we play often
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I’m not sure if the league as a whole views him like that.
And I think there are a few teams, like Portland, desperate to alter their trajectory.
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I think there are a bunch of teams desperate to alter their trajectory but I'm not sure there's a team out there that values DA more than we do. A few months ago maybe but the talk has been very anti-Ayton for quite awhile now and I'm sure scouts and executives were fully aware of his weaknesses long before the ESPN/Fox/CBS mouths finally caught on.
Unless he does something to improve his reputation this postseason I don't see how that contract moves for anything of value. Maybe we can find under-utilized and/or under-valued players like LAL did with the Westbrook deal but how long did they have to hang onto Russell before they could find that kind of return? I'm not confident we'll be that patient.
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Okay, I think I'll change my stance on this given what's been mentioned here about the new agreement. It sounds like we're going to have to move him to a team that has low salary and only one star and we can't expect a big, bad contract in return.
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A lot of players are getting over paid. Ayton gets a great salary but compared to a lot of players today it's not outrageous. It's the market with huge revenues available. Look at Myles Turner getting what $30 million a year. And as sorry as Ayton sometimes gets I would much rather have him than Turner. Look at Shamet $10 & gives almost nothing in return or Nets Joe Harris who gets almost $19 million per & does give nothing in return.
And just look at what the Suns have had in the past at the Center slot. I'd trade Ayton only for some value and fill all the holes we now have & not a for headache like Kyrie or for garbage players just to make a move. It seems like the Suns are always negotiate from a point of weakness.
Suns have to stop settling one dimensional flawed players and look first the best available complete players. Get Value sometimes. Maybe the Suns should consult with Jazz Danny Ainge, the Lakers, Celtics, or the Spurs on how to make a trade and win.
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Big Al
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Lakers don't even want Kyrie now. He ain't going act right anyway bet on that. And I don't know the NBA trade rules like some you do but isn't he a unrestricted agent this year? If so why give anything because Kyrie is a no guarantee risk. Anyway let's get this win tonight. Suns are due.
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Luckily for DA, they'll have plenty of moments to talk about in Game 3.
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Leaving this here for posterity.
It took me longer than some of you but I never questioned Ayton’s effort until this playoffs. I have always maintained that it was all in his head and he was a low IQ player.
Now I believe it’s a combination of both.
Now I believe it’s a combination of both.
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How do we change the thread title to… “How do we dump DeYawndre”??
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I'd go nuts if a headcase like this guy was on my team. SMH. No need to get butthurt and skip out on the media.
Deandre Ayton only played 26 minutes and had four points, nine rebounds, and one block while shooting 2/6 from the field.
Deandre Ayton only played 26 minutes and had four points, nine rebounds, and one block while shooting 2/6 from the field.
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And his trade value.
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Book’s such a great guy, great teammate and has become a great leader. He’s saying and doing all the right things.
But Ishbia, Jones and Monty know what’s up and what needs to happen. Ayton will not be a Sun much longer…
