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Why. They have a ton of cap space already. It's always an option but I don't see a reason to do it next season.
Because you look past next season to freeing up more room two and three years down the road. Amazingly, Kyler's already down to #11 in QB pay in the NFL. If you get proactive, and he continues to play well, you can wind up not losing a great player like PJ, McBride or MHJ. Or by keeping them, having to let someone else go. It would help you keep the core of a good team together for a long time.

This has always been a complaint of mine about Cardinals management. It's always "wait a year" then the cost goes up. "Now it's too much, let them test the market", then they are gone.
 

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Because you look past next season to freeing up more room two and three years down the road. Amazingly, Kyler's already down to #11 in QB pay in the NFL. If you get proactive, and he continues to play well, you can wind up not losing a great player like PJ, McBride or MHJ. Or by keeping them, having to let someone else go. It would help you keep the core of a good team together for a long time.

This has always been a complaint of mine about Cardinals management. It's always "wait a year" then the cost goes up. "Now it's too much, let them test the market", then they are gone.

No. There is zero reason to restructure Kyler next season. You save restructuring Kyler for 2026 or beyond when you might actually need to make cap space.

McBride, PJJ and MHJ are not going anywhere else. The Monti has managed the cap to ensure that home grown studs stay home.
 
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If you get proactive, and he continues to play well, you can wind up not losing a great player like PJ, McBride or MHJ.
Here is a crazy way of thinking about it since the Monti has managed the cap so well. If the Cardinals wanted to, they could extend McBride for 4 years and the same total contract value that TJ Hockenson signed recently ($66M) and pay pretty much the entire contract next season and still have the ability to resign all of the remaining Cardinals FAs in the offseason.
 

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Here is a crazy way of thinking about it since the Monti has managed the cap so well. If the Cardinals wanted to, they could extend McBride for 4 years and the same total contract value that TJ Hockenson signed recently ($66M) and pay pretty much the entire contract next season and still have the ability to resign all of the remaining Cardinals FAs in the offseason.
McBride isn't eligible for an extension until next season, so this year's cap space cannot be used for him.
 

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Correct. On the 2025 cap.
We are rolling over $18 million to 2025, so you're both technically correct.

Unless of course we extend anyone before the next league year starts.
 

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he is in his third year. he should be eligible to negotiate a new deal in March
Budda and JC come first. Trey should and will happen before 2025 week one and probably before training camp. Only question is length, 3, 4 or 5 years.
 

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Worth remembering this won't be close to $100m in the end.

Budda, JC, Kyzir, Will Hernandez, Evan Brown, Colon, Collier, Browning, Dortch, Lopez and Luketa are guys I imagine they will want to keep around.

Budda, JC, Kyzir, Hernandez, Brown and Browning are likely to be $45-50m on their own. Lopez likely $3-4m. Collier $2m. Dortch $3-4m. It soon vanishes.



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I will add, I think there is a chance they might let Hernandez walk unless it's a friendly deal, and keep the younger Colon/Adams and the cheaper Brown. Or possible let Brown walk.

With the younger guys we have they may not re-sign both.
 
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Eye-opening detail shows how the Arizona Cardinals are winning: It starts with physicality​



Part of the article -

Cardinals dominating with tight ends​

Part of the Cardinals’ physicality is schematic. Per Sumer Sports, they use multiple tight ends on 46% of offensive snaps, second only to the Chiefs.

They also leaned heavily on multiple tight end looks heavily last year, in offensive coordinator Drew Petzing’s first season. But this offseason, they drafted blocking tight end Tip Reiman in the third round, enabling them to use their tight ends in even more ways.


And naturally, those looks are conducive to running the ball. The Cardinals have run 193 plays out of multiple tight end sets this year, the most in the league. They’re also averaging 4.8 yards per carry on those plays, the third-most in the league.

Not just that, but 130 of those plays run have been gap schemes, as opposed to the zone running style that has seen a popularity boom over the past decade. No other team has more than 75 such runs.

It’s a bruising, physical style that’s hard on defenses.
 

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Eye-opening detail shows how the Arizona Cardinals are winning: It starts with physicality​



Part of the article -

Cardinals dominating with tight ends​

Part of the Cardinals’ physicality is schematic. Per Sumer Sports, they use multiple tight ends on 46% of offensive snaps, second only to the Chiefs.

They also leaned heavily on multiple tight end looks heavily last year, in offensive coordinator Drew Petzing’s first season. But this offseason, they drafted blocking tight end Tip Reiman in the third round, enabling them to use their tight ends in even more ways.


And naturally, those looks are conducive to running the ball. The Cardinals have run 193 plays out of multiple tight end sets this year, the most in the league. They’re also averaging 4.8 yards per carry on those plays, the third-most in the league.

Not just that, but 130 of those plays run have been gap schemes, as opposed to the zone running style that has seen a popularity boom over the past decade. No other team has more than 75 such runs.

It’s a bruising, physical style that’s hard on defenses.
so two other teams are averaging more than 4.8 yards per carry, WOW!
 

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Eye-opening detail shows how the Arizona Cardinals are winning: It starts with physicality​



Part of the article -

Cardinals dominating with tight ends​

Part of the Cardinals’ physicality is schematic. Per Sumer Sports, they use multiple tight ends on 46% of offensive snaps, second only to the Chiefs.

They also leaned heavily on multiple tight end looks heavily last year, in offensive coordinator Drew Petzing’s first season. But this offseason, they drafted blocking tight end Tip Reiman in the third round, enabling them to use their tight ends in even more ways.


And naturally, those looks are conducive to running the ball. The Cardinals have run 193 plays out of multiple tight end sets this year, the most in the league. They’re also averaging 4.8 yards per carry on those plays, the third-most in the league.

Not just that, but 130 of those plays run have been gap schemes, as opposed to the zone running style that has seen a popularity boom over the past decade. No other team has more than 75 such runs.

It’s a bruising, physical style that’s hard on defenses.
this is from Theo Mackie of the AZ Rep - beat writer who covers the Cards

Its really solid analysis and maybe the best writer covering the Cards in like.........................?

and also: i saw him on you tube post Jets game, and oh man, does he look impossibly young for the kinda quality he is producing. LOL am i old now.
 

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went to the dispensary last night and scored a heckler with my half ounce - dude said the cards almost look like a real team - so i asked if the game in frisco looked like a real loss - he felt some type of way when i said "frisco" and just turned right back around
 

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I will add, I think there is a chance they might let Hernandez walk unless it's a friendly deal, and keep the younger Colon/Adams and the cheaper Brown. Or possible let Brown walk.

With the younger guys we have they may not re-sign both.
I feel like we will see Hernandez go the way of Humphries. Not that there can't be a convo after Hernandez is healthy, but I don't believe they will sign him and wait for that to occur. Also, Brown might price himself out of the Cardinals plans. OG market is just tough to predict. Lots of ways to go regarding the OL this upcoming offseason. I would hope Adams makes a play for a spot.
 

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went to the dispensary last night and scored a heckler with my half ounce - dude said the cards almost look like a real team - so i asked if the game in frisco looked like a real loss - he felt some type of way when i said "frisco" and just turned right back around
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I feel like we will see Hernandez go the way of Humphries. Not that there can't be a convo after Hernandez is healthy, but I don't believe they will sign him and wait for that to occur. Also, Brown might price himself out of the Cardinals plans. OG market is just tough to predict. Lots of ways to go regarding the OL this upcoming offseason. I would hope Adams makes a play for a spot.
Brown is 28 and on his 6th team already. Giants, Dolphins, Browns, Lions, Seahawks and Cardinals. This year was the most he has ever made in a season and he fits the scheme well. I think he knows he is a system player and if he want to see his next contract through, the Cardinals are probably the best place for that. Give him the same extension as Froholdt.
 

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