The Dbacks offseason thread

[Arizona's Finest]

JD Drew =

Stephen Drew =


(hopefully)

 

[devilfan02]

Intersting tidbit from Rosenthal:

Speaking of trades that didn't happen, the Diamondbacks offered right-handed starter Javier Vazquez and reliever Jose Valverde to the Astros for closer Brad Lidge and second baseman/outfielder Chris Burke. The talks went nowhere. ...

I love our new GM so far....Its seems like he is the winner in every propsed trade i read about....

Interesting..... I wonder why Byrnes wouldnt go after their CF Taveras, must be untouchable. I still think Valverdes gonna be good

 

[overseascardfan]

If we get Lofton do we need anything else? Are we going after any more SP's?

 

[devilfan02]

If we get Lofton do we need anything else? Are we going after any more SP's?

For sure SP's. Prob Armas or Johnson. We also need a LH reliever

 

[devilalum]

Intersting tidbit from Rosenthal:

Speaking of trades that didn't happen, the Diamondbacks offered right-handed starter Javier Vazquez and reliever Jose Valverde to the Astros for closer Brad Lidge and second baseman/outfielder Chris Burke. The talks went nowhere. ...

I love our new GM so far....Its seems like he is the winner in every propsed trade i read about....

Offering Russ Ortiz for God doesn't make you a genius.

Getting God for Russ Ortiz makes you a genius.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Offering Russ Ortiz for God doesn't make you a genius.

Getting God for Russ Ortiz makes you a genius.

Just saying i like the aggressive smart indications i see so far.....

 

[devilfan02]

I like Byrnes style so far as well. Joe Jr. would have shipped off Javy to whoever called first.

 

[boondockdrunk]

"Industry sources told the Arizona Republic that Kenny Lofton has agreed in principle to a deal with the Dodgers.
But he never played for the Red Sox. Lofton will probably be the Dodgers' center fielder against right-handers, pushing J.D. Drew back to right field. As things stand now, Jason Repko and later a healthy Jayson Werth would platoon with him. However, a Reggie Sanders signing could make Jose Cruz Jr. the center fielder against left-handers. Lofton's signing also figures to push Bill Mueller down to the sixth or seventh spot in the order"

Wow... I was wrong. How much can LA spend this year? Apparently, they think they are the Yanks.

 

[devilfan02]

"Industry sources told the Arizona Republic that Kenny Lofton has agreed in principle to a deal with the Dodgers.
But he never played for the Red Sox. Lofton will probably be the Dodgers' center fielder against right-handers, pushing J.D. Drew back to right field. As things stand now, Jason Repko and later a healthy Jayson Werth would platoon with him. However, a Reggie Sanders signing could make Jose Cruz Jr. the center fielder against left-handers. Lofton's signing also figures to push Bill Mueller down to the sixth or seventh spot in the order"

Wow... I was wrong. How much can LA spend this year? Apparently, they think they are the Yanks.

I had a feeling it would be very tough to get him. I heard on Gambo and Ash that he lives in LA which puts us in a automatic hole. What the hell are the Dodgers doing??? Their going to sign Sanders too???? Cripe, their going to have 60 people show up at spring training. Just look at the mess of players listed above . How about their infield, it's a cluster too. Who are we going to turn to at CF now????

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I had a feeling it would be very tough to get him. I heard on Gambo and Ash that he lives in LA which puts us in a automatic hole. What the hell are the Dodgers doing??? Their going to sign Sanders too???? Cripe, their going to have 60 people show up at spring training. Just look at the mess of players listed above . How about their infield, it's a cluster too. Who are we going to turn to at CF now????

So, they're playing Nomar at first, Kent at second, Furcal at SS and Mueller at 3rd.. OF wise, they have Lofton, soon Sanders and Wurth?

Sounds like a pretty crappy 65-70 win team to me :notworthy

 

[Phill11]

So, they're playing Nomar at first, Kent at second, Furcal at SS and Mueller at 3rd.. OF wise, they have Lofton, soon Sanders and Wurth?

Sounds like a pretty crappy 65-70 win team to me :notworthy

Their weak pitching wise too, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Their weak pitching wise too, if I'm not mistaken.

Derek Lowe is their ace..

Their staff, at this point (barring Jeff Weaver re-upping) is:

Lowe
Brad Penny
Odalis Perez
Dennis Houlton
Edwin Jackson

Pretty weak, but I still see Jackson being a good pitcher.

Ah also, nice OF.. Jose Cruz, Lofton and JD Drew? Nice. Maybe 70 wins was being too generous.

 

[Phill11]

Derek Lowe is their ace..

Their staff, at this point (barring Jeff Weaver re-upping) is:

Lowe
Brad Penny
Odalis Perez
Dennis Houlton
Edwin Jackson

Pretty weak, but I still see Jackson being a good pitcher.

Ah also, nice OF.. Jose Cruz, Lofton and JD Drew? Nice. Maybe 70 wins was being too generous.

With Lowe and Perez being GB pitchers plus this awful defense they should have ERA's over 4. I can see Penny and Jackson having good seasons though. Who the hell is Houlton?

70 wins is about right.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

With Lowe and Perez being GB pitchers plus this awful defense they should have ERA's over 4. I can see Penny and Jackson having good seasons though. Who the hell is Houlton?

70 wins is about right.

What's the over-under on Nomahhhhhhhh and JD getting injured and going to the 15 Day?

 

[Phill11]

What's the over-under on Nomahhhhhhhh and JD getting injured and going to the 15 Day?

15 Day, highly unlikely.

60 day, now that's more like it.

 

[devilfan02]

What's the over-under on Nomahhhhhhhh and JD getting injured and going to the 15 Day?

You talking about Noglove Garciapopup??

 

[devilfan02]

Desert heat?
Dec 19 - According to ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick, the Diamondbacks could turn to Dave Roberts as a possible short-term center field solution after missing out on free agent Kenny Lofton, who is expected to sign with the Dodgers.

Arizona GM Josh Byrnes knows Roberts from the 2004 season in Boston, and the Diamondbacks need someone to hold down the center field position for just a year until minor leaguer Chris Young is ready. Roberts recently lost the starting center field spot in San Diego when the Padres acquired Mike Cameron by trade from the Mets. Roberts appears to be a poor fit in left field, and the Padres might consider trading him for the right offer.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Who do you think we'd have to give up? I might be for it

 

[overseascardfan]

For sure SP's. Prob Armas or Johnson. We also need a LH reliever

What about a trade for Sabathia? I heard he has fallen out of favor in Cleveland due to his rapid weight gain. Is Rincon still available?

 

[devilfan02]

What about a trade for Sabathia? I heard he has fallen out of favor in Cleveland due to his rapid weight gain. Is Rincon still available?

Rincon's available, not sure about Sabathia. They are still trying to find pitching and trading Sabathia wouldn't make any sense. Plus, we'd have to give up too much. Rincon will cost us a big time prospect as well. I'd rather sign Armas and wait till next offseason where there's more certainty and will cost us money, not prized prospects

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Desert heat?
Dec 19 - According to ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick, the Diamondbacks could turn to Dave Roberts as a possible short-term center field solution after missing out on free agent Kenny Lofton, who is expected to sign with the Dodgers.

Arizona GM Josh Byrnes knows Roberts from the 2004 season in Boston, and the Diamondbacks need someone to hold down the center field position for just a year until minor leaguer Chris Young is ready. Roberts recently lost the starting center field spot in San Diego when the Padres acquired Mike Cameron by trade from the Mets. Roberts appears to be a poor fit in left field, and the Padres might consider trading him for the right offer.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Who do you think we'd have to give up? I might be for it

Dave Roberts would be a hell of a short term option at CF. Being the Padres were willing to trade him in a PACKAGE for Fat Ass Wells, I doubt he's going to fetch much of a return.

 

[devilfan02]

Thats what I say. Decent defense which would be above avg if he had an arm. However, if he can be a decent hitter and/or very disciplined at the plate, he could be a very scary addition. I'm for it if the deal doesn't call for much. I also heard rumors today that we may be intersted in Finley. The Angels want to unload his contract and would let him go for nearly nothing. I love Fins but I think I would rather have Roberts. So much speed

 

[Lefty]

Dave Roberts would be a hell of a short term option at CF. Being the Padres were willing to trade him in a PACKAGE for Fat Ass Wells, I doubt he's going to fetch much of a return.

I would not be surprised to see the Padres trade Roberts back to Boston for Wells if Damon signs somewhere else.

 

[FinleyLover]

I've always like watching Dave Roberts play. He would be a great short term solution.

 

[devilfan02]

Freedom march
Dec 20 - The Red Sox are not expected to tender Wade Miller a contract, so he will become a free agent, the Boston Globe reports. Miller went 4-4 with a 4.95 ERA before undergoing surgery on his right labrum in late September. The Sox, who signed Miller to a one-year deal for $1.5 million last December, could offer the right-hander a minor league contract to return next spring, but it is more likely another club, not obligated to offer Miller arbitration as the Sox would be, will sign him to a big league contract.

Would any of you have interest in giving him a shot?? While his labrum problems are def a issue, I would still look into him. He was great while with Houston and spent most of last year rehabing his shoulder. As more teams get interseted, he will become more expensive but the Rod Sox are only offering him a minor league contract. IMO, we should take a look at him. Plus, Byrnes should know everything about Miller from his days in Boston so you never know.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I honestly didnt foresee the Padres helping an inner-division rival occupy one of their voids...Although, Roberts would be the ideal stopgap....

We could eliminate the likes of Juan Encarnacion or Jacque Jones off the list of prospective Dbacks OFs since according to the following in the EVT:

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=55547

Florida free agent Juan Encarnacion is likely to land a multiyear deal, a commitment the D-Backs do not want to make with both Young and nominal right fielder Carlos Quentin considered at most a year away.

The position is definitely open, however, because the DBacks will not ask Shawn Green to play center this year, Kendrick said, and plan to keep Luis Terrero in a reserve role.

"You want to have Shawn Green in right field and have a more natural center fielder out there,’’ Kendrick said.

"You hope you have a guy with reasonable production, and you hope Young advances quickly and proves the Vazquez trade a good event. It is something we are betting on.’’

Young, 22, who led the Double-A Southern League in three offensive categories, is expected to start the 2006 season at Triple-A Tucson.

"But we are open to the possibility’’ of bringing him to the major leagues a few months into the major league season, Byrnes said.

"We don’t want anyone to be rushed. But we don’t want anyone to be artificially delayed, either.’’

That is the ideal approach.. not to tie-up anyone to a long-term contract, however, there arent too many options available at this time for a mere one-yr CF.... Reggie Sanders could be signed to a 1-yr deal, however, he obviously isnt a true CF....

Here's though some possibilities:

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Roger Cedeno

True, he never lived-up to his immense potential and has been injury-prone, but could be another one of those (what we've discussed on several occasions) a low-risk, high-reward signing... He's still a solid lead-off hitter with speed and is relatively decent in CF..He could essentially be a non-roster invitee, but of course he's had some character issues in the past which might detract away from any remote interest in him....

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Marquis Grissom

Grissom still has some power to his bat, is decent defensively, also shows some flashes of speed, however, he lacks in plate discipline.. would be ideal though for just a one-year stopgap and could come cheap....

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Terrence Long

Long wouldnt exactly be the lead-off hitter they yearn for, but he's at a stage in his career that he might be willing to sign to a one-year contract to prove himself by making quite an impact which is something the Dbacks could highly benefit from....

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Preston Wilson

The Dbacks have been interested in Wilson for quite some time, but the question.. can he remain fully healthy for a season? That's why a 1-yr minimal contract is very plausible here....

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Endy Chavez

Not included in my original lst... I just read where the Phillies may release Chavez... True, his production slipped dramatically last season, but he can provide much needed speed.. even if it's off the bench and would be inexpensive.. perhaps a non-roster invitee.... He has demonstrated some plate-discipline and can steal bases, however, the reason why the Phillies might release him is due to a numbers game... He would be a great signing indeed....

The other candidates are Michael Tucker, Bobby Higginson, or Brian Jordan...

It would be hilarious if the Dbacks considered Bernie Williams, however, he would command an extremely high price-tag.....

Pitching-wise....Kaz Ishii (despite his horrible control), Al Leiter (has at least 1-yr left in the tank), Kirk Reuter, Ismael Valdez, and Brett Tomko along with the aforementioned Wade Miller remain viable options....I heard Kevin Appier is attempting a contract and has been working out in AZ, but for the Dodgers.. He could be another low-risk..high-reward... I still would love the idea of Tony Armas since he can make a long-term impact as well....

Relief-pitching.... Julian Tavarez, Shigetoshi Hasegawa, Shingo Takatsu, Terry Mulholland (as the Dbacks left-handed specialist), Antonio Osuna, and perhaps a Mike Stanton are currently on the market that the Dbacks could benefit from....All of those could come cheap (except Tavarez) and along with Visciano and Grimsley be solid additions to the Dbacks bullpen....