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As Bert so rightly posted about the Cardinals' woes going back to what was one of the more dreadful pre-seasons in ages---it appears, first and foremost, that the players are going through the motions.

It isn't by pure happenstance that the majority of the few players who are playing at the highest levels this season (see messers Jones, Campbell, Jefferson, Swearinger, Jaron Brown, et. al)---are in contract years.

Then there is David Johnson, who has become enamored with the national; praise he has been receiving as a player and high fantasy league draft pick---he's playing in his second year of a 3rd round contract.

Then there is Fitz---who is as constant as the North Star.

Then there is Palmer, who is highly motivated, but struggling to galvanize an offense that is sluggish and mistake prone.

Then there is Pat P.---who remains an A cover guy, an F tackler and a C- punt returner.

BA&SK, coming off handsome raises, have not been on their A games this year and the players know it.

In short, Steve Keim never finished off the roster---he left the team too vulnerable in some key need areas.

In short, Bruce Arians has gotten so out of control that he's hanging players out to dry in the media, he's having zero success getting his team and in particular his offense to come out for first halfs and second half with conviction, he's f-bombing every ref on his sideline and calling the NFL's handling of officiating "BS."

The wheels have been coming off since the Seahawks humiliated and pounded the then 13-2 Cardinals into submission in Week 17 of last year.

The coaches seems all the more ineffective since then (how about the arguing on the sidelines versus Cardinals last January) and the players seem all the more tentative and passive---almost to the point where it makes one wonder whether they really want to play the games.

This is a team that on the whole look afraid of getting hurt---either physically or emotionally (if they put their hearts into it again).

This is a team that looks like it is not willing to make sacrifices again, this time around.

This is a team that looks like it wants a year off.

Is there a fix?

Can the Cardinals suddenly regroup and find their desire to win and with it, their mojo?

I truly believe they can.

First of all, they have to go 6-2 to win the division---and they can sit back and see this weekend that this goal is entirely possible given the state of the NFC right now. Teams are banged up and reeling---just like the Cardinals are---only the Cardinals get their bye at the most advantageous time.

Secondly, I believe that Carson Palmer, David Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald will lead this offense to a second half surge. The good news it that one of the only bright spots off the pre-season was the play of its second string offensive linemen who now have their chance to show their talent and their worth.

Thirdly, three young players are emerging as bona fide leaders on the defense---Deone Bucannon, Tony Jefferson and Markus Golden. These three play with a real passion that gets the entire unit fired up.

Fourthly, I predict that BA will take an added interest in the STs during the second half to make sure that he turns what has been a real liability into a positive. BA knows how important field position is and how important it is to cash in on STs in close games.

Furthermore, this week BA is going to get his A game back on. We are going to see him coaching ahead of the games, rather than behind them. That's the secret to great coaching. Not getting too lost or caught up in the moment, but constantly thinking a play to two ahead of the action.

The Chiefs came back from 1-5 last year and then they won handily in the first round of the playoffs at Houston (30-0) and then narrowly lost to the Pats in NE (20-27).

The Cardinals are going to be this year's Chiefs and hopefully exceed them in the playoffs.
 

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Nice path for the Cards to follow, Mitch, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that everyone on the team will do what we hope they'll do.

The disappointing first half of the season removes many of the options otherwise available to us and, therefore, the faith that we have the ability to control/predict our own destiny.

That said - it's a weird season, and it's not out of the question that 8-7-1 (or even 7-8-1) could sneak one of the NFC West teams into the playoffs.
 

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I think your depiction of this team, including BASK, and where they stand today is spot on Mitch... HOWEVER, as much as I'd like to get on board with your Chief analogy, I can't... It's possible for sure, but highly, highly improbable. Even if the Cards were to go 6 & 2, if one of those losses come to Seattle, they're toast. But going 6 & 2 in and of itself is akin to climbing Mt. Everest... twice! 5 of our remaining 8 games are on the road, in some of the most hostile places to play and against extremely tough teams... including back to back weeks in Minnesota and then Atlanta, later in Miami and then back to back to end the season in Seattle and at the Rams... Our 3 remaining home games include just one cup cake in the 9ers... the other two are versus the Redskins and then New Orleans, who suffer defensively but just proved they can score any anybody at will but putting up 25 points on a Seahawk defense that two weeks ago held us to 6!

I stated this before the season began and I'll say it again... Under BA, this team had put up 34 wins over the past three seasons. The NFL, if nothing, is the king at ensuring parity... sans the Patriots of course.
It was simply baked in the cake that this team was about to stumble. It's just the nature of the NFL as no team not named the Patriots, sustains double-digit win totals for any real lengthy period of time...
Add to this reality the points you make above - which are spot on - and I honestly don't see any way this team is playing the post season this year. I hope I am SOOOO wrong though!!
 

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The loss in Buffalo, although it was bad, doesn't bother me. Good teams lose to bad teams(NE lost to Buffalo as well). Neither does losing @ Carolina even with the horrible officiating. But the losses, and the way we lost, to NE, LA, and Seattle(don't care what anybody says, a tie the way it came felt like a loss) are going to be the games that bite us in the arse. All 3 were within our grasp, late, to win. As bad as this team has played, we should conceivably be 6-2 right now. Last season we got the breaks to go our way. This season, not so much. All is not lost yet. We're in the bye and hopefully some soul searching is going on. Come next week we should see what kind of ticker this team really has.
 

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In short, Bruce Arians has gotten so out of control that he's hanging players out to dry in the media, he's having zero success getting his team and in particular his offense to come out for first halfs and second half with conviction, he's f-bombing every ref on his sideline and calling the NFL's handling of officiating "BS."

this has been happening the entire time BA has been here.
 

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The loss in Buffalo, although it was bad, doesn't bother me. Good teams lose to bad teams(NE lost to Buffalo as well). Neither does losing @ Carolina even with the horrible officiating. But the losses, and the way we lost, to NE, LA, and Seattle(don't care what anybody says, a tie the way it came felt like a loss) are going to be the games that bite us in the arse. All 3 were within our grasp, late, to win. As bad as this team has played, we should conceivably be 6-2 right now. Last season we got the breaks to go our way. This season, not so much. All is not lost yet. We're in the bye and hopefully some soul searching is going on. Come next week we should see what kind of ticker this team really has.

At home versus the 9ers?? That would be the farthest thing from a ticker-test of all. When we hit the road for the back to back road games against the Vikes and Falcons - that will be the true test. Beating up on the 9ers is simply fun and remedial...
 

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Although I like your optimism, MItch, I am going to reserve mine until we see what this new OL can do against a mediocre SF pass rush. If we can keep Palmer clean then it could give us momentum heading into our road games.
 

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1/2 a post about how this year is out of control, and another 1/2 a post about how in a weeks time it will all go away. While I am not buying what you are selling, either in some of the blame, and all of the solution, making the playoffs and seeing this team play better would be nice.

Here's to hoping the back half of that post come to be the truth.
 

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The rest of the year depends on the offensive line's ability to be average. If they can be average in terms of run blocking and pass blocking, we have skill players on offense who can win matchups. If our offense can maintain drives, our defense can be good enough to hold teams under 24 points per game.
 

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I think your depiction of this team, including BASK, and where they stand today is spot on Mitch... HOWEVER, as much as I'd like to get on board with your Chief analogy, I can't... It's possible for sure, but highly, highly improbable. Even if the Cards were to go 6 & 2, if one of those losses come to Seattle, they're toast. But going 6 & 2 in and of itself is akin to climbing Mt. Everest... twice! 5 of our remaining 8 games are on the road, in some of the most hostile places to play and against extremely tough teams... including back to back weeks in Minnesota and then Atlanta, later in Miami and then back to back to end the season in Seattle and at the Rams... Our 3 remaining home games include just one cup cake in the 9ers... the other two are versus the Redskins and then New Orleans, who suffer defensively but just proved they can score any anybody at will but putting up 25 points on a Seahawk defense that two weeks ago held us to 6!

I stated this before the season began and I'll say it again... Under BA, this team had put up 34 wins over the past three seasons. The NFL, if nothing, is the king at ensuring parity... sans the Patriots of course.
It was simply baked in the cake that this team was about to stumble. It's just the nature of the NFL as no team not named the Patriots, sustains double-digit win totals for any real lengthy period of time...
Add to this reality the points you make above - which are spot on - and I honestly don't see any way this team is playing the post season this year. I hope I am SOOOO wrong though!!

I think the Seahawks are in for their share of loses with that OL and really a total lack of playmakers outside of Wilson and Baldwin on offense in my oprinon
 

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I think the Seahawks are in for their share of loses with that OL and really a total lack of playmakers outside of Wilson and Baldwin on offense in my oprinon
(Pssst, Jimmy Graham - we did good job but he's been good again this season)
 

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I think the Seahawks are in for their share of loses with that OL and really a total lack of playmakers outside of Wilson and Baldwin on offense in my oprinon
How is that different from what we're going through?

Green Bay and the entire NFC East have higher playoff odds than us right now (per Football Outsiders). Mitch's default is that problems are always in the players' heads or hearts, which has the benefit of never being provable or disprovable.

Chopper's right that the pivot point is on the offense, but I don't know if it's the line. Even when Palmer has had time, he hasn't been dynamic. That means that this young group of receivers needs to find a way to make Palmer look better than he is.

That's a high bar to clear.
 
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this has been happening the entire time BA has been here.

I think it's gotten progressively more frequent and louder---BA seems like the teacher who is frustrated that the students aren't paying attention anymore.

BA has to get the players' attention coming off this bye week. They need to start responding to him. My hunch is that not all of the assistant coaches are on the same page and that the players are getting some mixed messages. Sometimes players can be over-coached to the point where they become robotic or overly programmed. Players have to be able to adjust on the fly because defenses are so complex, you have to be prepared for the unexpected all the time.
 
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Although I like your optimism, MItch, I am going to reserve mine until we see what this new OL can do against a mediocre SF pass rush. If we can keep Palmer clean then it could give us momentum heading into our road games.

That's fair.
 

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How is that different from what we're going through?

Green Bay and the entire NFC East have higher playoff odds than us right now (per Football Outsiders). Mitch's default is that problems are always in the players' heads or hearts, which has the benefit of never being provable or disprovable.

Chopper's right that the pivot point is on the offense, but I don't know if it's the line. Even when Palmer has had time, he hasn't been dynamic. That means that this young group of receivers needs to find a way to make Palmer look better than he is.

That's a high bar to clear.

The Seahawks have the advantage of having a more talented defense in my opinion but personally I would still think our OL even now could be a tad better than theirs. I still think our WR group is still better than theirs even at our inconsistent production and Palmer has the ability to be good though not great like last year. The Seahawks do have Rawls coming back but he did not fare well when he did play in the beginning and David Johnson to me is what puts our offense over the top despite Russel Wilson who is not healthy at the moment to be the scrambling threat he's noted for. If we do not catch Seattle, it will be due to our Special Teams and the advantage of Seattle's coaching staff being able to get more out of their players. Not saying that it will be easy, but nobody is running away with this division looking at the current state of the teams... we have a chance :)
 

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At home versus the 9ers?? That would be the farthest thing from a ticker-test of all. When we hit the road for the back to back road games against the Vikes and Falcons - that will be the true test. Beating up on the 9ers is simply fun and remedial...
It's still gut check time. After playing badly against Buffalo and at home against the Rams, this team has no business taking any game for granted.
 

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It's still gut check time. After playing badly against Buffalo and at home against the Rams, this team has no business taking any game for granted.

Not suggesting they take the 9er game for granted... but winning a game you're supposed to easily win is not "guy check" material. Winning on the road in MN and Atlanta is guy check stuff...
 

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How is that different from what we're going through?

Green Bay and the entire NFC East have higher playoff odds than us right now (per Football Outsiders). Mitch's default is that problems are always in the players' heads or hearts, which has the benefit of never being provable or disprovable.

Chopper's right that the pivot point is on the offense, but I don't know if it's the line. Even when Palmer has had time, he hasn't been dynamic. That means that this young group of receivers needs to find a way to make Palmer look better than he is.

That's a high bar to clear.

I disagree about the Oline. Don't disagree with your general assertion, but in our situation it's different. Think of every NFL QB currently playing--is there anyone as old Palmer who is less mobile with a slow/average release? Tom Brady is old, Drew Brees is old, but they both have lightning quick releases and quick drops out from center. That's not what we're working with in Palmer.

Agree about other teams being favored over us. We are what our record says, which isn't even average, dudes c'mon, and some of you act like we're still going to the playoffs and making the SB. People who say all we have to do is win out and it's possible or we go 6-2 and it's easy are deluding themselves. This team has holes and flaws, none of which have been corrected, not one!!

We were exposed early in this season.

What flaw that has lost us games have any of you seen corrected? Just one. Starting with game 1, we were exposed and we've been beat down since. We haven't made the corrections, we're still losing the same ways.

Your point about the offense is true to some extent, but there's still talent there. We should be moving the ball. Nobody wants to blame BA's stagnant offensive game plan, like that's untouchable, but it's possible after 3 years of the same offense that people have figured us out, including our snap counts, substitutions, and adjustments.

David Johnson and Fitz should be the focal point of our offense, they're the two most talented players. And I mean by far, the difference in talent and natural knowledge between them two and the guys directly under them, the # 2's, is huge, there's like a grand canyon of knowledge between HOF and just good. So that's one thing, the offensive game plan should have changed, and I don't mean just running more. My wife calls out whether it's a run or pass. Let me tell you, that's not indicative of an innovative offense.

Right now is the perfect time to change our offense to more David Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald, whatever that entails. Palmer is getting old, but DJ is the stopgap from suckage after losing our starting QB. The transition needs to start now.

What pisses me off to no end, is Larry's situation. Larry Fitzgerald. He's a class act and a superb, just phenomenal football player. Last game he played better on one leg, while getting paid millions, than Floyd has played in most of his games healthy. That's the freaking difference between HOF and just good or could have been. The difference is almost incomparable. What pisses me off though is that as an NFL player you only get a certain # of snaps. That's just a statement of fact. If you're lucky, you'll get a lot of snaps, but it doesn't mean the ball is coming to you. It's shameful how many snaps Larry wasted playing with the likes of some of the QB's we've trotted out there during his entire career.

This team isn't going anywhere. They're a bad football team. Probably a .500 football team this year.
 

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The fat lady stuck a fork in the toast last week; there is always next season.
 

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How is that different from what we're going through?

Green Bay and the entire NFC East have higher playoff odds than us right now (per Football Outsiders). Mitch's default is that problems are always in the players' heads or hearts, which has the benefit of never being provable or disprovable.

Chopper's right that the pivot point is on the offense, but I don't know if it's the line. Even when Palmer has had time, he hasn't been dynamic. That means that this young group of receivers needs to find a way to make Palmer look better than he is.

That's a high bar to clear.

I think for once I agree with you, at least partially. I thought Palmer played very well in Carolina - but the line (the guards in particular) made his job difficult and the WRs failing to be in a position to make big plays is still an issue. I still do hold out hope that John Brown will pick up some steam and that Floyd will come around.

The reality is though, Seattle is hurting as bad as we are if not worse. Their line play has regressed and Wilson is not in good shape. He really needs to sit a game and heal - but I doubt they will take that risk.

The division could very well go to Seattle or Arizona at 8-7-1. It would be oddly satisfying to win the division at 8-7-1 with a win over the Rams in week 17 to send them to 8-8.
 

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We will know by halftime of the next game if they did anything to fix anything. That first 30 minutes of football will tell us where this team is headed for the rest of the year. Wholesale changes need to be made and we will know if they took advantage of the bye to right the ship. 30 minutes of football will tell all.
 

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Haven't seen much in the way of roster action. is Keim doing anything, or just bowling?
 
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Fix is to build up more talent on defense and OL. That is what the draft and FA should be focused on. You can win the SB with a strong running game and dominant defense it has been proven. Keim needs to start hitting on his first and second round picks, ARZ cannot afford to red shirt guys, immediate help is needed if they want to win SB in the next couple of years.
 
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