The OFFICIAL do-not resign Leonard "False Start" Davis thread!!

[Pariah]

Do tell.

Big, for all his faults, is in the top-half of LTs in the league. Put him at G and he's in the top-10.

Why wouldn't a team that needed a LT, or better yet, a dominating G, give up a pick for a sure thing? Especially a team that may only need a little line help to become a playoff team.

If I'm the Chiefs I'd do it in a NY minute. This year. The Bills might do it. I'd also contact the Broncos, the Giants, the Redskins, the Bucs and the Rams.

 

[conraddobler]

Big, for all his faults, is in the top-half of LTs in the league. Put him at G and he's in the top-10.

Why wouldn't a team that needed a LT, or better yet, a dominating G, give up a pick for a sure thing? Especially a team that may only need a little line help to become a playoff team.

If I'm the Chiefs I'd do it in a NY minute. This year. The Bills might do it. I'd also contact the Broncos, the Giants, the Redskins, the Bucs and the Rams.

I assume you mean a sign and trade because no way you'd get squat for him with this being his last year, there's no way he's going to learn a system in time to help a team this year, he can't even learn ours after 3 full training camps.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

At this point, I am fairly certain that another team will sign him in the offseason, put him in his proper position, give him a little coaching and LD will be a Pro Bowler. That's just how things go with this team.

 

[vince56]

Big, for all his faults, is in the top-half of LTs in the league. Put him at G and he's in the top-10.

Why wouldn't a team that needed a LT, or better yet, a dominating G, give up a pick for a sure thing? Especially a team that may only need a little line help to become a playoff team.

I'm going to disagree. Davis was a dominating guard in his rookie season. He played RT the following year when Clement went down and played very well if I recall correctly. Then in 2003 he played guard decently, as an average guard.

I guess my point is he hasn't been a dominating guard since his rookie year. He hasn't so much as sniffed the pro bowl in 5 years in the league. While I agree with you that his best chance for success is probably at guard, I don't honestly see him being dominant anywhere until he gets his head in the game, which he might never do.

His false starts, blown assignments, and even lining up incorrectly (in a 2pt stance on running downs while the RT is in a 3pt stance as he did 3+ times on Sunday, for example) are indicative of him simply not paying attention, not caring, or not being smart enough to play the position. It's one of those three. Either way, Davis' problems are all mental. I don't know if a switch to guard is going to fix that.

 

[Russ Smith]

Posted this in another thread but apparently Jurecki said this morning the Cards are looking at trading Big prior to the trade deadline. And a Bay Area radio station mentioned last night that the Raiders were considering Big so they could move Gallery back to RT and bench the disaster that is Langston Walker.

Big for Jerry Porter here we come.

 

[AZCB34]

Big, for all his faults, is in the top-half of LTs in the league. Put him at G and he's in the top-10.

Why wouldn't a team that needed a LT, or better yet, a dominating G, give up a pick for a sure thing? Especially a team that may only need a little line help to become a playoff team.

If I'm the Chiefs I'd do it in a NY minute. This year. The Bills might do it. I'd also contact the Broncos, the Giants, the Redskins, the Bucs and the Rams.

I agree with you on this. I think it is very possible to get a 2nd rounder for him and I would add GB to your list as well and I am sure if we dug deep enough, there are a few other teams who would trade for him and slide him to G.

Hell, I think the Cards should slide him to G right now and try to re-sign him as such for next year...it isn't like they are all set at G right now anyways, why not keep a proven commodity at G? Won't happen but I don't know why they shouldn't do so.

 

[Pariah]

If the trade includes Porter, we'll never know what his draft-pick value is. But, weren't the Raiders looking for a 2nd for Porter?

BTW, I think they'd be getting the better part of that deal if it were a straight player-for-player trade.

 

[Mulli]

Green Bay taking False Start would be wonderful.

 

[AZCB34]

Green Bay taking False Start would be wonderful.

Was Big a false start machine when he played G though? The false starts at T are a combination of his lack of focus during the game (my perception) and trying to get the upper hand on speed rushers in front of him (reality). I think the false starts would drop if he were to play G...he could hear better (which may be part of his focus problem) and with a few exceptions, he would not be playing against speed DT's.

Perfect storm for him to succeed...not be great mind you, but succeed.

 

[Russ Smith]

If the trade includes Porter, we'll never know what his draft-pick value is. But, weren't the Raiders looking for a 2nd for Porter?

BTW, I think they'd be getting the better part of that deal if it were a straight player-for-player trade.

Hard to say Porter is not exactly a low maintenance player.

he's a very good player, still only 28 and he's in the 2nd year of an extension he signed in 2005 so he'd allow us to shop Bryant Johnson at the end of the season who would be in the last year of his contract and would see his base salary jump due to escalators.

Again I'm just throwing Porter's name out there I haven't heard any actual speculation here on what the Raiders would be offering.

Davis has basically wrecked Porter's trade value by burying him so if they could get talent like Big in exchange they'd probably jump at it, and then find out why Big is on the market.

But I am skeptical we'd really trade Big who would play LT?

 

[Pariah]

But I am skeptical we'd really trade Big who would play LT?

Gorin?

 

[AZCB34]

Gorin?

Even Liewinski. If they were good enough for RT with Warner, they are good enough for LT with Matt

 

[Duckjake]

Even Liewinski. If they were good enough for RT with Warner, they are good enough for LT with Matt

Didn't they play just as poorly as every one else when they subbed for Ross?

I know Monica the Matador was awful at LG.

 

[AZCB34]

Didn't they play just as poorly as every one else when they subbed for Ross?

I know Monica the Matador was awful at LG.

Who played against the Niners? Gorin? I don't recall but I thought whomever played RT that week did ok.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Who played against the Niners? Gorin? I don't recall but I thought whomever played RT that week did ok.

That would be Liwienski. He started RT against the Niners. I didn't think he had a good game.

 

[BACH]

This is a fun bump!