The Official Trade Idea Thread

[NastyOne]

I'm thinking there's gonna be a Seattle-Portland swap in the works - each team has EXACTLY what the other needs - straight up - Zack Randolph for Rashard Lewis. And allof a sudden, both are extremely tough. Seattle'sbig three is Ray Allen, Zack Randolph and Kevin Durant and Portland's got potentially the most terrifying young team in the league with Roy, Lewis, Aldridge and Oden. That's four extremely big/athletic players. All that team is missing is a semi-competent PG and they dominate everyone within two-three years.

If Seattle adds Ridnour with Lewis than i think that deal could happen.

I highly doubt that Portland cant get more than just Lewis for Randolph, who imo is the way better player between the two.

This way Portland can get Jack and Ridnour to give each other competition for the starting PG position to see who comes out ontop.

Seattle really doesnt lose anything cause Ridnour finished the season on the bench.

 

[hcsilla]

I highly doubt that Portland cant get more than just Lewis for Randolph, who imo is the way better player between the two.

I disagree. While Randolph is a bigman Lewis has numerous advantages comparing to Randolph.

Lewis is less injury prone, not stupid and he will probably have a better contract. If someone Portland has to add something to the Randolph-Lewis swap.

 

[NastyOne]

I disagree. While Randolph is a bigman Lewis has numerous advantages comparing to Randolph.

Lewis is less injury prone, not stupid and he will probably have a better contract. If someone Portland has to add something to the Randolph-Lewis swap.

Its way easier to find Soft jump shooters like Lewis than it is to find bulldogs like Randolph that can get you 24/10.

 

[hcsilla]

Its way easier to find Soft jump shooters like Lewis than it is to find bulldogs like Randolph that can get you 24/10.

With no brain, max. salary and after stress fracture? I'm not sure.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Who would play their "big" if they traded Chandler?

Hilton Armstrong and Cedric Simmons.

 

[sharkman]

Hilton Armstrong and Cedric Simmons.

Chandler Per Game: 34.6min/ 12.4 rebounds/ 1.77 blocks/ 9.5 pts
H. Armstrong Per Game: 11.3 minutes/ 2.7 rebounds/ 0.46 blks/ 3.1pts
Simmons Per Game: 12.4 minutes/ 2.5 reb/ 0.5 blk/ 2.9pts

Chandler averages more than Armstrong and Simmons combined. He's not going anywhere.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

A trade that works....

Marion/Banks

for

Aldridge/Rodriguez/Webster/LaFrentz

Gives us a backup PG, a young SF to start, a young C to start and a bench buddy for Pike to replace Burke....

Blazers are free to take Oden and not worry about a logjam at the 5 and have a starting lineup of Jack-Roy-Marion-Randolph-Oden with Miles coming in as their 6th man. They don't have to spend money on Udoka AND Outlaw (they choose who they want)....

Everyone's happy, especially Pike!

 

[dodie53]

raef is a big man that blocks shoot and can shoot the three,
and i think he's much tougher than burke..

 

[Divide Et Impera]

raef is a big man that blocks shoot and can shoot the three,
and i think he's much tougher than burke..

He's more broke down than Anfernee Hardaway. In his prime, he would have been the sh*t here in PHX....

 

[CaptainInsano]

I would say lewis and chandler are 99% out of the picture. That one trade with charlotte for brevin and sean is looking kind of good now.

 

[Hugh D'Man]

I can see no reason for charlotte to take on Marion when the can resign GWallace for half the dough and be just as good. Also the late season play of Walter Hermann was very encouraging. Remember, for any other team (except golden state) Marion is a SF.

Charlotte also has a buttload of cap space...they could easily sign Rashard for 10 mill per...make any number of sign and trade deals...

This just isn't going to happen. Maybe if Charlotte was contending...but not at this point. They do not need Marion...not as much as we do.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I can see no reason for charlotte to take on Marion when the can resign GWallace for half the dough and be just as good. Also the late season play of Walter Hermann was very encouraging. Remember, for any other team (except golden state) Marion is a SF.

Charlotte also has a buttload of cap space...they could easily sign Rashard for 10 mill per...make any number of sign and trade deals...

This just isn't going to happen. Maybe if Charlotte was contending...but not at this point. They do not need Marion...not as much as we do.

Yeah, but Wallace has to want to sign there. If he doesn't want to play in CHA anymore (and why would he at this juncture in his career?), he can easily force a s&t. Of course, I understand this as a contingent of ANY trade between PHX and CHA. If he wants to stay in CHA or he wants to go to a team other than PHX, we can't do squat as you have pointed out....

 

[cly2tw]

I can see no reason for charlotte to take on Marion when the can resign GWallace for half the dough and be just as good. Also the late season play of Walter Hermann was very encouraging. Remember, for any other team (except golden state) Marion is a SF.

Charlotte also has a buttload of cap space...they could easily sign Rashard for 10 mill per...make any number of sign and trade deals...

This just isn't going to happen. Maybe if Charlotte was contending...but not at this point. They do not need Marion...not as much as we do.

Exactly. That's the reason I think it's realistic that GS might want to trade JRich + maybe Pietrus s&t for Marion. Or Marion goes to Boston for alleged crush Ainge has on him.

 

[cly2tw]

Yeah, but Wallace has to want to sign there. If he doesn't want to play in CHA anymore (and why would he at this juncture in his career?), he can easily force a s&t. Of course, I understand this as a contingent of ANY trade between PHX and CHA. If he wants to stay in CHA or he wants to go to a team other than PHX, we can't do squat as you have pointed out....

The point is, Marion is overpaid, even in his best fit Phoenixe. Unless desperate for changes, most teams would just go with much cheaper alternatives and spend their money on other more important positions.

 

[NastyOne]

Once again D'Antoni in a radio interveiw said we are not trading any of our core.

I think the FO wants to give this group one more shot, and maybe just tweak some of the other parts around them.

If thats the case one of the small moves we should make is Diaw for Artest.

Maybe its not that small of a move, but we do get way tougher by trading the biggest *you know what* in the NBA in Diaw for one of the toughest defenders that can also be a dangerous offensive player in Artest.

Can we deal with Artest character problems if it helps bring us a title? Do we even take the chance?

I say yes, cause we dont lose anything in Diaw and if Artest is causing chemistry problems (which i doubt he would playing on a title contender) then we can just send him home for the rest of the season, and in the end all we did was lose Diaw for nothing (which isnt such a bad thing)

We're in a position now that we might have to make a risky move to put us over the top, and Artest might just be worth it.

Nash
Bell
Artest
Marion
Stoudemire

Leandro Barbosa, FA Vet Min. Grant Hill, James Jones, Kurt Thomas, #24 Marco Belinelli, #29 Tiago Spiltter, 2nd Round Sean Williams (Trade for one of Portlands four 2nd round selections and Draft Sean Williams where hes not on a guaranteed contract and can easily be released if any problems)

Thats a pretty tough & deep team that can also still play in D'A system.

 

[mathbzh]

If thats the case one of the small moves we should make is Diaw for Artest.

No thanks... I wouldn't even like a Artest for Burke trade

 

[NastyOne]

No thanks... I wouldn't even like a Artest for Burke trade

And i'd rather have a championship caliber team. Not just a team that makes the playoffs every year with a great record just to get knocked out when they play a tougher squad.

Artest, even with his problems, gives us a better chance at winning a title because hes the perfect fit against the Spurs,Mavs and Pistons of the NBA.

 

[Milgod]

chandler knows his role..

he just defends and rebounds..

The reason I don't think they would be good together isn't because of their skills. They have a history and its not a friendly one.

 

[Hugh D'Man]

Once again D'Antoni in a radio interveiw said we are not trading any of our core.

I think the FO wants to give this group one more shot, and maybe just tweak some of the other parts around them.

If thats the case one of the small moves we should make is Diaw for Artest.

Maybe its not that small of a move, but we do get way tougher by trading the biggest *you know what* in the NBA in Diaw for one of the toughest defenders that can also be a dangerous offensive player in Artest.

Can we deal with Artest character problems if it helps bring us a title? Do we even take the chance?

.......

We're in a position now that we might have to make a risky move to put us over the top, and Artest might just be worth it.

Nash
Bell
Artest
Marion
Stoudemire

Leandro Barbosa, FA Vet Min. Grant Hill, James Jones, Kurt Thomas, #24 Marco Belinelli, #29 Tiago Spiltter, 2nd Round Sean Williams (Trade for one of Portlands four 2nd round selections and Draft Sean Williams where hes not on a guaranteed contract and can easily be released if any problems)

Thats a pretty tough & deep team that can also still play in D'A system.

I think D'Ant meant to say 'We can't trade any of our core'.... then followed by... ' and other than JR, we don't have any value on the bench to trade either.'



Diaw for Artest is very tempting....but it leaves us shy in the post for Diaw has shown he can run at C. Jr+Banks+ATL 1st??? I really like Sean Williams in the second too. He is grossly undervalued do to his weed-ocity. He's be a top 20 pick if not. It would be a nice bad boy tandem though, RonRon and Sean Sean...maybe we bring in Bang-Bang Telfair too.


Don't we still have part of a trade exception ???

 

[NastyOne]

I think D'Ant meant to say 'We can't trade any of our core'.... then followed by... ' and other than JR, we don't have any value on the bench to trade either.'



Diaw for Artest is very tempting....but it leaves us shy in the post for Diaw has shown he can run at C. Jr+Banks+ATL 1st??? I really like Sean Williams in the second too. He is grossly undervalued do to his weed-ocity. He's be a top 20 pick if not. It would be a nice bad boy tandem though, RonRon and Sean Sean...maybe we bring in Bang-Bang Telfair too.


Don't we still have part of a trade exception ???

Nah our trade exception expired last offseason.

And in my proposal i have us taking Tiago Splitter with #29, so hes another F/C option with Sean Williams to replace Diaw.

And i'd much rather trade Diaw straightup for Artest than include ATLs draft pick into the deal with JR and Banks.

We could possibly get our PG of the future with that pick, cause the Hawks aint making the playoffs no matter what so its still gonna be a lottery pick in 2008.And the 08 draft will be stacked with PGs.

 

[CaptainInsano]

Well looks like we are sticking with the core I guess.

We absolutely HAVE to get rid of boris and banks combined 12-13 million so that will be the moves to make now.

If the GM part of this team were smart (and it isn't so this won't happen) we would do the following:

Find a way to get rid of boris using our 29th

Find a way to get rid of banks possibly using our 2nd rounder

Have KT opt out and sign a 3 year 4 million per contract.

That would be 17 million(!) off our payroll this year, setting us up to make some real moves.

Our total payroll would be at 60 million (before signing some scrubs) with the luxury tax at 69-71 million. We still would have the #24 and probably about 7 million (after signing probably 4 scrubs) to dink around with.

 

[Hugh D'Man]

Nah our trade exception expired last offseason.

And in my proposal i have us taking Tiago Splitter with #29, so hes another F/C option with Sean Williams to replace Diaw.

And i'd much rather trade Diaw straightup for Artest than include ATLs draft pick into the deal with JR and Banks.

We could possibly get our PG of the future with that pick, cause the Hawks aint making the playoffs no matter what so its still gonna be a lottery pick in 2008.And the 08 draft will be stacked with PGs.

I remember reading about Splitters difficult/costly buy out...its around 500K...out of his pocket. He might not jump to the big leagues unless he is picked higher (and I imagine he will be)



We need a point guard for today...in fact , yesterday. No way is there any comfort going into next yr with Barbososo running the second squad. I think that ATL pick will be instrumental in a deal...maybe midseason when there is a better feel for where it will land.


RonRon for 2 yrs and removing Banks ??? That is worth something. We give little and potentially recve alot. If he does not pan out...he's gone anyway. But I think Artest-icle could be a tremendous addition.

 

[CaptainInsano]

At the very least artest plays pretty good the first year, so why not do a 1 year rent anyway and then we would have 1 more year where he would start to lay a stinker as he always does.

Then though halfway through the 2009 season we could trade his valuable expiring for something.

Of course you have to remember, the above makes complete sense so D'antoni would never do it, because everyone being happy in the locker room and exiting in the 2nd round is more important.

 

[dodie53]

is antawn jamison a free agent after the 08 season?

can the suns trade him for marion?

 

[Phill11]

Just got bored and started playing with trade ideas on RealGM. Here's an intresting one... doubtful though.

Phoenix Gets:
Michael Redd
Brian Skinner
6th Pick Overall

Milwaukee Gets:
Kurt Thomas
Marcus Banks
Boris Diaw
James Jones
Milos Vujanic
24th Pick
29th Pick

Like I said... I was real bored.