The Official Trade Idea Thread

[sharkman]

I always liked Chandler ... Hornets probably wouldn't do it though.

Who would play their "big" if they traded Chandler?

 

[Milgod]

I'm pretty sure having STAT and Chandler on the same team would be a disaster.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I'm pretty sure having STAT and Chandler on the same team would be a disaster.

I am completely sure you are totally wrong....

 

[dodie53]

chandler knows his role..

he just defends and rebounds..

 

[cly2tw]

KG + Davis + Hassell + Minn's future 1st rounder

for Marion + Diaw + Banks + Pike + Alt pick


Thats insanely in favor of Phoenix, Minny would never do that. They trade away the face of their franchise, their 2nd best player, a good role player, AND a future 1st rounder? To get back an All Star role player, a possible one hit wonder in Diaw, 2 junk filler players, and a high pick? Not going to happen.

Well, my presumption was that Davis' trade value was low since he was a head case despite being the 2nd best player there. Now we don't get the Alt pick this year, let's just do

KG + Davis + Hassell

for Marion + Diaw + Banks + Pike + Alt 08-pick

I don't think Diaw is a one-hit wonder. However, due to his base year status, he is difficult to trade by himself.

 

[Cheesebeef]

here we go - this is IT. It's a HUGE gamble, but it could help salary wise in the futureand help us in one HUGE aspect,namely TOUGHNESS:

Boris Diaw and our two first round picks this year for Ron Artest and the Kings Lotto pick.

Artest is the PERFECT 3 for this team - can shoot the three, create for himself and others and is an ABSOLUTE MOTHER on D. He shuts down either Parker or Ginobli all by himself and he gives this team an enforcer/attitude adjustment that will be desperately needed once we likely ship off KT.

Nash
Bell
Artest
Marion
Amare

LB
Kings Lotto Pick
Grant Hill/PJ Brown (hopefully)
James Jones

Right there you would have a MONSTEROUS team -riding on a big gamble, but Artest's contract isn't that bad and not as lengthy as Frenchy McFrench Frenchand we get a lotto pick this year to go along with hopefully a good pick next year.

and to be honest, that's about the best the Kings could hope for - they desperately want Artest off that team and they can get two first rounders and a Diaw who at least showed potential last year when put on the block by himself.

It's time to make a gamble with this team, especially considering Luxury Tax implications. They can not stand still and they MUST get tougher - PERIOD. This deal helps accomplish both. It's a risk I'm willing to take. What about you?

 

[elindholm]

Okay, just for the hell of it:

Seattle gets
Boris Diaw ($9 million next season, expires 2012)
James Jones (2.9, 2009)
Eric Piatkowski (1.2, 2008)
$1.2 million cash for Piatkowski's contract
ATL pick in 2008

Phoenix gets
Rashard Lewis (10.1, 2009)
#31 pick in 2007 (which SEA has from MEM)

Seattle gets a pretty good return for the disenfranchised Lewis. Probably their starting lineup would be Petro/Wilcox/Durant/Allen/Ridnour, but Diaw could come in handy as a secondary playmaker or in a smaller lineup. Also, Diaw and Petro have the French thing going, so maybe they could keep each other honest. The Atlanta pick next year probably won't be stellar but is at least decent.

Phoenix starts Stoudemire/Marion/Lewis/Bell/Nash, keeps Thomas and Barbosa, trims a bit of salary, and has three late first-round picks (#24, #29, and #31, which is basically a first-round pick) with which to try to find another role player. Lewis and Marion guarantee that one of them will have an advantageous mismatch against the other team's PF.

 

[slinslin]

"ATL pick in 2008 (top-three protected 2008, otherwise SEA's choice of PHX's own pick in 2008 or ATL's pick unprotected in 2009"

Huh?

So Seattle gets to chose in case Atlanta 08 is going the be in top 3 between Phoenix 2008 pick and a pick that we have no rights to?

 

[elindholm]

"ATL pick in 2008 (top-three protected 2008, otherwise SEA's choice of PHX's own pick in 2008 or ATL's pick unprotected in 2009"

Huh?

So Seattle gets to chose in case Atlanta 08 is going the be in top 3 between Phoenix 2008 pick and a pick that we have no rights to?

LOL, oops, sorry about that. I'll fix it.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm thinking there's gonna be a Seattle-Portland swap in the works - each team has EXACTLY what the other needs - straight up - Zack Randolph for Rashard Lewis. And allof a sudden, both are extremely tough. Seattle'sbig three is Ray Allen, Zack Randolph and Kevin Durant and Portland's got potentially the most terrifying young team in the league with Roy, Lewis, Aldridge and Oden. That's four extremely big/athletic players. All that team is missing is a semi-competent PG and they dominate everyone within two-three years.

 

[BirdMan21]

here we go - this is IT. It's a HUGE gamble, but it could help salary wise in the futureand help us in one HUGE aspect,namely TOUGHNESS:

Boris Diaw and our two first round picks this year for Ron Artest and the Kings Lotto pick.

Artest is the PERFECT 3 for this team - can shoot the three, create for himself and others and is an ABSOLUTE MOTHER on D. He shuts down either Parker or Ginobli all by himself and he gives this team an enforcer/attitude adjustment that will be desperately needed once we likely ship off KT.

Nash
Bell
Artest
Marion
Amare

LB
Kings Lotto Pick
Grant Hill/PJ Brown (hopefully)
James Jones

Right there you would have a MONSTEROUS team -riding on a big gamble, but Artest's contract isn't that bad and not as lengthy as Frenchy McFrench Frenchand we get a lotto pick this year to go along with hopefully a good pick next year.

and to be honest, that's about the best the Kings could hope for - they desperately want Artest off that team and they can get two first rounders and a Diaw who at least showed potential last year when put on the block by himself.

It's time to make a gamble with this team, especially considering Luxury Tax implications. They can not stand still and they MUST get tougher - PERIOD. This deal helps accomplish both. It's a risk I'm willing to take. What about you?

I love this trade. I think that Artest would bring alot to this team on the court....the only question would be how much he would hurt them off the court. Also, teams would be affraid to cheapshot Nash or anyone else for the simple fear that Artest could/would retaliate.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I'm thinking there's gonna be a Seattle-Portland swap in the works - each team has EXACTLY what the other needs - straight up - Zack Randolph for Rashard Lewis. And allof a sudden, both are extremely tough. Seattle'sbig three is Ray Allen, Zack Randolph and Kevin Durant and Portland's got potentially the most terrifying young team in the league with Roy, Lewis, Aldridge and Oden. That's four extremely big/athletic players. All that team is missing is a semi-competent PG and they dominate everyone within two-three years.

That makes a lot of sense, but with Portland and Seattle being in the same division and all.....

 

[slinslin]

Oden reportedly measured 7'1 in shoes, 7'5 wingspan and a 39" vertical leap off 3 steps and he had just started working on his explosivness.

Oden is a lock for #1 no matter who drafts.

 

[hsandhu]

here we go - this is IT. It's a HUGE gamble, but it could help salary wise in the futureand help us in one HUGE aspect,namely TOUGHNESS:

Boris Diaw and our two first round picks this year for Ron Artest and the Kings Lotto pick.

Artest is the PERFECT 3 for this team - can shoot the three, create for himself and others and is an ABSOLUTE MOTHER on D. He shuts down either Parker or Ginobli all by himself and he gives this team an enforcer/attitude adjustment that will be desperately needed once we likely ship off KT.

Nash
Bell
Artest
Marion
Amare

LB
Kings Lotto Pick
Grant Hill/PJ Brown (hopefully)
James Jones

Right there you would have a MONSTEROUS team -riding on a big gamble, but Artest's contract isn't that bad and not as lengthy as Frenchy McFrench Frenchand we get a lotto pick this year to go along with hopefully a good pick next year.

and to be honest, that's about the best the Kings could hope for - they desperately want Artest off that team and they can get two first rounders and a Diaw who at least showed potential last year when put on the block by himself.

It's time to make a gamble with this team, especially considering Luxury Tax implications. They can not stand still and they MUST get tougher - PERIOD. This deal helps accomplish both. It's a risk I'm willing to take. What about you?

I love this trade too. Ginobili was artest's bitch in last year's playoffs. And they were talking about trading artest for about 60 cents on the dollar this season, so this would be enticing for the kings (not sure about the lotto pick though).

Please email this to someone, in the suns org or the republic, because I'm convinced Mike has no idea what the hell he's doing as a gm. And unfortunately they're always concerned about character guys, where the hell has that got us?

Man the last 9 days have sucked so bad, I almost want to make a trade just for the sake of making one. I'd even dangle leandro out there.

 

[dodie53]

diaw and LB for artest and kevin martin..
with fillers to even the salaries..
=)

 

[cly2tw]

If Noah is still available at #8, Charlott might do the #8 for Diaw deal. Then do Marion for JRich+Pietrus. We'll have saved about 9-11 mil in cap thereby. Convince Kurt to opt out and sign a 3 year deal for 4 mil each. Sign PJ Brown for half of MLE. Sign Hill for the other half. Our roster would be:

5/4: Amare/Noah/Kurt/PJ/JR
1/2/3: Nash/JRich/Peitrus/Bell/LB/Hill/Pike/Banks

The rotation would be solid down to the 12th man. So, leave Grant Hill out and trade Pike away along with Diaw, we'd be even below lux tax.

 

[TucsonDevil]

Okay, just for the hell of it:

Seattle gets
Boris Diaw ($9 million next season, expires 2012)
James Jones (2.9, 2009)
Eric Piatkowski (1.2, 2008)
$1.2 million cash for Piatkowski's contract
ATL pick in 2008

Phoenix gets
Rashard Lewis (10.1, 2009)
#31 pick in 2007 (which SEA has from MEM)

Seattle gets a pretty good return for the disenfranchised Lewis. Probably their starting lineup would be Petro/Wilcox/Durant/Allen/Ridnour, but Diaw could come in handy as a secondary playmaker or in a smaller lineup. Also, Diaw and Petro have the French thing going, so maybe they could keep each other honest. The Atlanta pick next year probably won't be stellar but is at least decent.

Phoenix starts Stoudemire/Marion/Lewis/Bell/Nash, keeps Thomas and Barbosa, trims a bit of salary, and has three late first-round picks (#24, #29, and #31, which is basically a first-round pick) with which to try to find another role player. Lewis and Marion guarantee that one of them will have an advantageous mismatch against the other team's PF.

I was just thinking the same thing... HOWEVER, since Seattle doesn't seem to be sold on Ridnour ... could the inclusion of Banks and our #29 pry away Ridnour as well?

 

[elindholm]

I was just thinking the same thing... HOWEVER, since Seattle doesn't seem to be sold on Ridnour ... could the inclusion of Banks and our #29 pry away Ridnour as well?

I doubt it. They already have a defensive, offensively challenged point guard in Watson. Don't know why they'd want another. Also, I'm not under the impression that they're down on Ridnour -- they did give him a pretty handsome extension.

 

[hafey]

Rashard Lewis has an opt-out I believe. I anticipate he'll use it.

 

[Ollie]

Word is that Lewis wants a deal starting at 10-11M. Who's gonna give him that on the free agent market ? No one has enough cap room.

The Sonics will either extend his deal or do a sign and trade.

 

[TucsonDevil]

I doubt it. They already have a defensive, offensively challenged point guard in Watson. Don't know why they'd want another. Also, I'm not under the impression that they're down on Ridnour -- they did give him a pretty handsome extension.

Ridnour went from starter to backup mid-way through the season.

 

[abomb]

Word is that Lewis wants a deal starting at 10-11M. Who's gonna give him that on the free agent market ? No one has enough cap room.

The Sonics will either extend his deal or do a sign and trade.

It's gotta be more than that. He is scheduled for about $10M for the next two seasons, if he takes the option.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I'm thinking there's gonna be a Seattle-Portland swap in the works - each team has EXACTLY what the other needs - straight up - Zack Randolph for Rashard Lewis. And allof a sudden, both are extremely tough. Seattle'sbig three is Ray Allen, Zack Randolph and Kevin Durant and Portland's got potentially the most terrifying young team in the league with Roy, Lewis, Aldridge and Oden. That's four extremely big/athletic players. All that team is missing is a semi-competent PG and they dominate everyone within two-three years.

Makes too much sense for it to happen.

 

[abomb]

Makes too much sense for it to happen.

Yikes.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Yikes.