Zeno
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No possession, no idea what to do in the attacking half, defensive blunders, poor passing...that was just awful. It has been pretty much this way since the Gold Cup, the team is a mess.
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
If we don't win Tuesday, it's time to end the JK mess.
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Mess like this one usually stem from higher up than just the head coach.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Except, as sad as it is to say, we were in better shape before JK. It's just about time to face up to the fact that he probably sold us a bill of goods.
He's facing an absolute, 100 percent must-win game. A draw leaves us in desperate shape. It's put up or shut up time for the JK era.
Milgod
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I've always been a support of JK, but he needs to stop messing around with the team and positions.
Far too many players are playing out of position.
Stout
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+1
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Tonight is a must win, no two ways about it. A draw doesn't suffice--it leaves us on five points, praying for two victories and for Guatemala to not draw T&T (will likely win their other match). Nothing less than victory is acceptable.
Zeno
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Agreed.
I have become so apathetic to this team that I don't even question the roster or lineup choices much anymore. They are such a mess right now and there really is no light at the end of the tunnel. It looks like we are going to get worse before we get better and that sucks.
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Hopefully we get worse after a victory. 8 months is a long time to fix issues. 8 months ago, this team wasn't in bad shape compared to now.
Stout
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Yes, hopefully we get that time to fix it after the win. The catch 22 is that I don't have a lot of faith that JK can fix it, yet if we do win, there's no way he's getting fired. I'd like a new coach to have those extra 8 months to try to fix it.
Sure hope they can notch a win. Not to say that they will have a chance in the Olympics, but it sure is fun to watch them while they are
Zeno
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Stout was talking about World Cup Qualifying but yep the Olympic team plays tonight too right after the National team (a soccer double header).
The Olympic team got a good result in Colombia in the first leg but they were outplayed and frankly kinda lucky to leave there with a draw. Hopefully being at home they step up their level of play and come out on top tonight.
Sure hope so too!
Zeno
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4-0, should have been 5-0. I guess playing at home makes all the difference!
Now just hope for a positive result from the Olympic team.
Now just hope for a positive result from the Olympic team.
Stout
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That is more like it.
Zeno
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Well, US is clearly outclassed against Colombia. Down 2-1 now have to win 3-2 in order to advance, the US goal was a fluke own goal...looks like no olympics AGAIN
Stout
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Altidore is now injured and out of the Copa America. Ouch.
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Most fragile hamstrings ever.
Stout
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+1
He might be overworking. He's a hulking guy, and sometimes when you build too much muscle bulk, you are prone to these kinds of injuries.
Zeno
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Anyone going to any of the Copa America matches? I have tickets to the US V Costa Rica here in Chicago.
Zeno
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Aside from the back 4 I can't stand tonight's line up. Bradley, Beckerman and Jones all on the field at the same time spells NO offensive creativity.
Zeno
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Oh and Zardes is not international quality.
Zeno
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Beckerman and Jones come off and the US actually gets some offensive life to it.
Oh and Dempsey is no longer a starter, he is a shell of what he once was.
Oh and Dempsey is no longer a starter, he is a shell of what he once was.
cardfaninfl
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Any justification of having both Grumpy Old Men starting at the same time went out the window.
The Flyin Hawaiian should have his name written in ink for the Starting XI. Everyone else should only be considered if they compliment him.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Man, we might have a shot to advance if, and only if, our coach gets his head out of his ass. I mean, WTF with that starting lineup? Okay, Cameron missed with a slight knock, but Birnbaum didn't do bad spelling him. Cameron will be back in. Yedlin clearly got a talking to at half time, and had a solid 2nd half after getting abused and trying to hand Equador goals left and right.
But JK, WTF are you doing with that lineup? Go with the youth while using your experience in the back 4 (with the exception of Yedlin--we're kind of in 'ride or die' mode with him right now). No way should Beckerman see the field. Pair Nagbe with Bradley. Start wood. Use Pulisic and Zardes a lot. I like what Twellman said--if we start the youngsters and we fail to advance, but those youngsters all become starters for the WC, then it isn't a failure. IMO, if we start the old fogeys and fail to advance, there is NO upside.
But JK, WTF are you doing with that lineup? Go with the youth while using your experience in the back 4 (with the exception of Yedlin--we're kind of in 'ride or die' mode with him right now). No way should Beckerman see the field. Pair Nagbe with Bradley. Start wood. Use Pulisic and Zardes a lot. I like what Twellman said--if we start the youngsters and we fail to advance, but those youngsters all become starters for the WC, then it isn't a failure. IMO, if we start the old fogeys and fail to advance, there is NO upside.
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