I saw the failure coming in the sense that they would probably lose to Uruguay and then lose the next match. I thought they would get a result against Panama. the fact that they did not is extremely disappointing.
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He wouldn't. That's why it is wishful thinking. I think he is just sitting and waiting for the Germany job. A job where he doesn't really need to be a 24/7 type of manager.
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I figured they would get out of the group and win a game, making it to the semis.
I hope for that, even now. they have the talent to do it. It's a shame that they would have to play Colombia or Brazil in the first match. I still want them to beat Uruguay, I just don't see it happening. but we will see. if the players respond and play for their manager then that will speak volumes. I just don't see it. and a good effort isn't enough. they need results.
I tend to agree. he's already a national hero there. maybe it's wishful thinking but if the USA are willing to make a pitch to him maybe he at least considers it. and if he can take USA to a World Cup quarterfinal or higher he will be even more hailed than he is now.
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I think they would be happy to see Brazil after their 1-1 draw. Columbia not so much.
Colombia or Uruguay could win the whole thing. I am glad that USA at least get to go head to head with Uruguay in a must have it type match. I think we all have to assume Panama will beat or best case draw 0-0 with Bolivia.
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Hold onto the ball, Murray!
I can't stand Klopp and his antics and whining...but I sure would love having his antics and whining (and great coaching) on our side!
it was a good break down. thanks for posting that. they even hit out on Tyler Adams 2nd half ban that Berhalter has on him. Berhalter is doing foolish things.
I know its unlikely, but imagine a grim scenario where USA beat Uruguay 1-0 because Uruguay are resting their top guys, and Panama make up the GD by blowing out Bolivia and the USA's copa is over. We may have a federation that could justify keeping Berhalter because he got a signature win.
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Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Good point at the top there. If he absolutely can't/won't play Adams more than 45, then *gasp* don't effing play him! Of save him for the 2nd half if we need a defensive mid boost.
I'll take it that you didn't like my doomsday scenario. It's so USSOCCER in my opinion. the point on using adams as a sub is a great idea and he can be effective as a sub. and that's what any reasonable manager would do with a player that can't go beyond 45 mins. His club team isn't wasting subs like that.
This is greg trying to play it both sides. he's trying to cater to one of his guys while still trying to manage him. it's far more effective to use a player as a sub to get them motivated and to keep them fit at the same time. we could have had musah out there to start and bring on tyler as a sub.
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Hold onto the ball, Murray!
That would be the ultimate in suckage, yes. You can't call a game that doesn't get you through to the knockout stages a signature win. It would be so US Soccer.
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Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Rightly so, IMO. What an idiot.
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What a joke. If Berhalter survives this then USSF is flipping off the fans.
he has to be fired. Bolivia and Iran are the only types of teams that USA can beat. its embarrassing.
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Totally fine with this loss if it means the end of Gregggggg.
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It's football season!!
He gotta be gone
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Oh and on a side note, that was one of the worst officiated international matches I have ever seen. Doesn’t excuse the result but it didn’t help matters.
that's kind of what the USA players are saying. Robinson just called the ref an amateur, but also said that it doesn't excuse their inability to score and get the result that they needed.
they just showed a replay of pulisic going over to shake hands with the refs and the ref wouldn't shake his hand. that is bush league stuff. just proves this ref isn't up for this type of a match. pulisic rightfully gave him some choice words.
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The last 2 games were terrible with refs.
The last one was expected as soon as I saw the guy - he can't control a match to save his life, never has.
Tonight's guy was a social breed of assist y incompetence.
Result a bit unfair....... But you need to put the ball in the net.
There were moments that showed how the US could and should play...... But just don't.
This team is stuck in mud. Their only good stretch the past could years was with temporary managers.
Maybe the players don't need the guy they are comfortable with and like - they need the guy that can push them to the next level
The last one was expected as soon as I saw the guy - he can't control a match to save his life, never has.
Tonight's guy was a social breed of assist y incompetence.
Result a bit unfair....... But you need to put the ball in the net.
There were moments that showed how the US could and should play...... But just don't.
This team is stuck in mud. Their only good stretch the past could years was with temporary managers.
Maybe the players don't need the guy they are comfortable with and like - they need the guy that can push them to the next level
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