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Robert! I knew it! Too cheap to pay for an AZRep subscription. Thats what gave you away.
The Suns with the 2018 #1 overall pick select....
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Doncic, 4-7-4 in 25 mins today, 0-3 from 3.
The doncic cabal on suns twitter breaks down every bad play ayton ever has as an indication of what type of player he is, but routine nothing performances from the great luka are just ignored.
The doncic cabal on suns twitter breaks down every bad play ayton ever has as an indication of what type of player he is, but routine nothing performances from the great luka are just ignored.
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I very much like both prospects, but I have to agree. Doncic could put up all zeroes in like 30 minutes and a lot of people won’t even acknowledge it.
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The debate (whatever there was outside the forum) has certainly waned for him being the #1 pick.
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But, but, but, they keep stats in Europe differently don't they?
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But, but, but, they keep stats in Europe differently don't they?
It's true - scoring zero points in the Euro League is really like scoring ten points in the NBA.
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Joking aside, it does say something revealing if the league MVP routinely puts up such blah numbers.
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This kid is by far the one that appears to be working the hardest to increase his stock.
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Doncic's stock dropping? https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ospects-stock-watch-and-1st-round-predictions
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Bamba is really tempting. With that speed. He had been ripped for being slow. If he can shoot too, its a real tempting combo of skills.
I still like Ayton, but he could move to #2. We aren't hearing much about Bagley at all.
Not sure I am interested even that much in Doncic, now. I know its just a couple bad games, ugh.
I still like Ayton, but he could move to #2. We aren't hearing much about Bagley at all.
Not sure I am interested even that much in Doncic, now. I know its just a couple bad games, ugh.
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I thought the knock was "slow to react" rather than full court speed? I know he's had the tendency to not get back defensively but I believe that was effort not speed.
And Doncic? How long has he been playing now without a break? I'm not trying to invent excuses for him but it's my understanding he's been playing year around?
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Aren't the playoffs in the Euroleague happening though? I know the year round play has to wear down Doncic but if he's putting up stat lines like that during their postseason that's awful. He's supposed to be the MVP and there's no excuse for laying an egg like that in the postseason. If Lebron, Curry, or Durant put up a 4-5-4 stat line in their series they'd be torn to shreds and rightfully so.
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I saw Bamba in some videos and he looked extremely quick at times.
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Nothing scares me more than the guy who impresses in drills and who did little else to prove their worthiness.
I've been saying for months that Bamba is the "measurables" guy from this draft. He can't shoot in games? But look at him with 3 trainers chucking him balls in an empty gym! He regularly seems slow in transition? But check out these times when he knows someone has a stopwatch! Good luck if someone takes him over several of the highly rated players who have proven themselves able to produce in real games on good teams.
My favorite thing about us getting to pick Ayton or... something else, is that Ayton is clearly above Bamba in the big man conversation. If we were picking third or fourth and I was forced to have long winded arguments about Bamba, who I think is the next Biyombo or Thabeet vs Young... who I think, worst case, is an pure offensive pg who makes life easier for everyone one that end... and probably harder on the other.
Anyway, Bamba is the defensive version of "Chairman" Yi. A measurables freak, who looks great in drills against... a chair, or their 5'10 trainer, but who will likely max out as a solid rim protector but a defender who gets wrecked by strong bigs, grabs 8-12 boards per 36 and is well below par on offense.
I'd put him around 8th or later on my board... and that is still based on his "measurable" potential. If I was purely drafting based on what I saw of him watching Texas play.... it would be a lot later.
I've been saying for months that Bamba is the "measurables" guy from this draft. He can't shoot in games? But look at him with 3 trainers chucking him balls in an empty gym! He regularly seems slow in transition? But check out these times when he knows someone has a stopwatch! Good luck if someone takes him over several of the highly rated players who have proven themselves able to produce in real games on good teams.
My favorite thing about us getting to pick Ayton or... something else, is that Ayton is clearly above Bamba in the big man conversation. If we were picking third or fourth and I was forced to have long winded arguments about Bamba, who I think is the next Biyombo or Thabeet vs Young... who I think, worst case, is an pure offensive pg who makes life easier for everyone one that end... and probably harder on the other.
Anyway, Bamba is the defensive version of "Chairman" Yi. A measurables freak, who looks great in drills against... a chair, or their 5'10 trainer, but who will likely max out as a solid rim protector but a defender who gets wrecked by strong bigs, grabs 8-12 boards per 36 and is well below par on offense.
I'd put him around 8th or later on my board... and that is still based on his "measurable" potential. If I was purely drafting based on what I saw of him watching Texas play.... it would be a lot later.
From Donnie Nelson, mavs gm and president discussing whether team was dissapointed they fell to five:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250070/Mavericks-Expect-To-Keep-No-5-Pick
"It is what it is," said Nelson. "The good news is there are a number of players that are in there that we feel really, really good about. Everyone pretty much has (Deandre) Ayton at the top of the food chain, and then after that there's a good chunk of players that goes certainly past five, well past five, that we feel really really good about.
Woj said on the draft special last week, talking to many other teams he believes if they had the #1 pick they all would take ayton.
This really is a no brainer. Unfortunately there are questions as to whether sarver has a brain, if anyone can totally screw this up, it's him.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250070/Mavericks-Expect-To-Keep-No-5-Pick
"It is what it is," said Nelson. "The good news is there are a number of players that are in there that we feel really, really good about. Everyone pretty much has (Deandre) Ayton at the top of the food chain, and then after that there's a good chunk of players that goes certainly past five, well past five, that we feel really really good about.
Woj said on the draft special last week, talking to many other teams he believes if they had the #1 pick they all would take ayton.
This really is a no brainer. Unfortunately there are questions as to whether sarver has a brain, if anyone can totally screw this up, it's him.
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Ayton is going #1. There is no chance in hell anyone will pass on his potential.
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The knock on Bamba other than being raw offensively is strength. There is a clip of him and Ayton defending each other at a pre draft camp / training center and Ayton’s strength limits Bamba’s length because he muscles him out of position.
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Yeah, I was just talking about the comment that he was considered slow. Without a doubt, lack of physical strength is a problem right now.
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Ayton is from UofA, so is Sarver. IMO, if anything Sarver leans towards drafting Ayton #1. I know Sarver has watched Doncic play. However, I worry more about others on the Suns staff pushing this direction.
If the Suns were to pursue Doncic I think it would take a huge bundle of assets to move up to nab him early while still drafting Ayton.
