Throw the house at Porzingis

[GatorAZ]

Translation. PJ floated the KP trade out there and got much lower offers than he expected. Nevermind.

Or realized the Garden would need riot police had they moved him.

 

[Bodha]

Different age, different minutes, different usage, different teams. Its really not hard to understand.

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[Hoop Head]

First, in your original post you were insinuating the people were ready to show him out the door already now you're backing off that and saying it's not a stretch to predict they'll do that. That's a very different position you're taking.

I said it wouldn't surprise me if things went a similar was in that people start calling for a replacement and undervalue him. I don't think he'll be ran out of here but it's started already with this draft with people wanting to bring in another PG without trading Bledsoe so that would bump Ulis to the 3rd string. He's much better than a 3rd string PG.

 

[Hoop Head]

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You post this but got upset over Jackson being "immature" by saying anybody can put up good stats on a bad team. So do you want the players the Suns draft to be held to a higher standard than you hold yourself?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I said it wouldn't surprise me if things went a similar was in that people start calling for a replacement and undervalue him. I don't think he'll be ran out of here but it's started already with this draft with people wanting to bring in another PG without trading Bledsoe so that would bump Ulis to the 3rd string. He's much better than a 3rd string PG.

Aaah I think you're making things up again. Show me a SINGLE post where someone wanted draft a pg and KEEP Bledsoe. I've read every draft-related post and haven't seen even a hint of that position once.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Replying to an earlier post about gambling on Zingis only being here until his contract is up in 2 years:

If he is traded within the first four years of a rookie deal, he is eligiable to get that new supermax from the new team there for creating incentive to stay here vs going elsewhere where he would have to take less money.

I dont see why he could leave if the nucleus was strong and they were in the playoffs in 2 years.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You post this but got upset over Jackson being "immature" by saying anybody can put up good stats on a bad team. So do you want the players the Suns draft to be held to a higher standard than you hold yourself?

Who do you think he's directing that at?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Who do you think he's directing that at?

Me. I'm not offended. If he doesn't get my point, I can't help it anymore.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Report: "As much as we love him, we have to do whats best for our ball club"
-phil jackson

Another report says they want top 4 pick to get josh jackson, who knows if thats true

If suns lose out on this because of the NBA reeming Suns in the lottery and the Celtics get Porzingis because they have #3 im going to lose it...

 

[GatorAZ]

Report: "As much as we love him, we have to do whats best for our ball club"
-phil jackson

Another report says they want top 4 pick to get josh jackson, who knows if thats true

If suns lose out on this because of the NBA reeming Suns in the lottery and the Celtics get Porzingis because they have #3 im going to lose it...

Gotta hope Phil insists on someone taking Noah. Celtics can't do it if they want Hayward.

 

[BleedRed]

Phil Jackson was on ESPN a little bit ago and it sure sounded like they were going to be trading Zingis. He mentioned the exit interview and even that he had reached out to him several times by phone since the end of the season but hasn't actually been able to speak to him, and how important that is it him. I think it's happening and am crossing my fingers it's for #4 and Bender.

 

[devilalum]

Report: "As much as we love him, we have to do whats best for our ball club"
-phil jackson

Another report says they want top 4 pick to get josh jackson, who knows if thats true

If suns lose out on this because of the NBA reeming Suns in the lottery and the Celtics get Porzingis because they have #3 im going to lose it...

Not me. Sure having the 3rd pick would give the Suns more control but there is going to be a star available at number 4. In fact it's quite possible that the player taken at #4 will end up being better than KP or any of the top 3.

We may not get the Xbox but worst case scenario we're getting a sweet mountain bike.


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[GatorAZ]

We should be hoping Phil hates the Celtics from his Laker days. He also hated the Suns too though.

 

[devilalum]

We should be hoping Phil hates the Celtics from his Laker days. He also hated the Suns too though.

The Celtics Knicks, New York Boston rivalry is crazy.


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[TJ]

Phil Jackson was on ESPN a little bit ago and it sure sounded like they were going to be trading Zingis. He mentioned the exit interview and even that he had reached out to him several times by phone since the end of the season but hasn't actually been able to speak to him, and how important that is it him. I think it's happening and am crossing my fingers it's for #4 and Bender.

This would be an A+ trade, but I have a feeling that there would be another pick involved or Chriss instead of Bender


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[NashDishesDimes]

Id rather give up Chriss than Bender. Obviously due to injury we didnt see much of Bender but to me, I can somewhat see Chriss ceiling and its 20 and 9 at best as an off the ball shawn marion type scorer. Bender is the higher risk/higher reward guy to me.

 

[devilalum]

Id rather give up Chriss than Bender. Obviously due to injury we didnt see much of Bender but to me, I can somewhat see Chriss ceiling and its 20 and 9 at best as an off the ball shawn marion type scorer. Bender is the higher risk/higher reward guy to me.

Spitting into the wind?


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[GatorAZ]

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[devilalum]

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Jackson said he wants 2 starters and the pick. How about Warren and Bender?


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[thephoenixson28]

I hope Chriss isn't in the deal.

 

[GatorAZ]

Jackson said he wants 2 starters and the pick. How about Warren and Bender?


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Probably don't want Warren if they're taking Jackson/Tatum. Bledsoe, #4, Bender or Chriss and take back Noah.

 

[devilalum]

Probably don't want Warren if they're taking Jackson/Tatum. Bledsoe, #4, Bender or Chriss and take back Noah.

So basically we're back to take any two you want not named Booker or Chriss.


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[pokerface]

Jackson said he wants 2 starters and the pick. How about Warren and Bender?


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Didn't Len start at some point? Brandon too?

 

[GatorAZ]

So basically we're back to take any two you want not named Booker or Chriss.


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I think Phil wants players over future picks past this year. He's 71 and probably wants a few win-now guys so Bledsoe and maybe Warren I suppose.

 

[GatorAZ]

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