Throw the house at Porzingis

[JCSunsfan]

Bledsoe, Warren, and whatever pick they want except this year's #4.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Bledsoe, Warren, and whatever pick they want except this year's #4.

hey! there's an idea that has no basis in reality!

Jesus guys... to get what people believe to be an up and coming superstar, you have to move at least ONE MAJOR piece of value.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I like Ulis, but PGOTF? I'm not so sure. For every Ulis or Isaiah Thomas, there are dozens of Yuta Tabuse's.

Come on... I agree about being leery of Ulis as PGOTF, but to bring up a guy who literally never played into the conversation when talking about Ulis who has already proven he's at WORST got a place in the league seems like a pretty specious argument... for no reason, really.

 

[Cheesebeef]

They're both 7 foot+ players who stretch the floor and can handle the ball remarkably well for their size plus they're both quality rim protectors and shot blockers. Bender is much further along in his development but Porzingis is someone he was compared to by a lot of scouts and analysts before being drafted.

this is INSANE. Bender hasn't shown the ability to stretch the floor or handle the ball remarkably well... or be a quality rim protector and shot blocker. Porzingis has shown ALL of that.

And then you go and say Bender is much further along in his development? WTF are you talking about?

And, there's no comparison between the two athletically speaking.

Seriously, this is one of the least informed posts I've ever read on this site.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You post this but got upset over Jackson being "immature" by saying anybody can put up good stats on a bad team. So do you want the players the Suns draft to be held to a higher standard than you hold yourself?

is bodha going to be a sun?

And you're bashing him because he posted a facepalm joke?

I mean... seriously... everything you're posting is certifiably insane at this point... and that's coming from someone who's not exactly a big Bodha fan.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Probably don't want Warren if they're taking Jackson/Tatum. Bledsoe, #4, Bender or Chriss and take back Noah.

if we someone how move Bledsoe, Bender and #4 for Porzingis/Noah, McD will have pulled off highway robbery.

Building around Booker/Porzingis/Chriss? I'll watch every Suns game I can next year.

I hate myself for even entertaining any of this.

 

[leclerc]

Make that Ulis/Booker/Warren/Chriss/Porzingis, cause he is a C, right? Can we play him and Chriss together on defence?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I need to stop thinking about this. Focus on learning to like Tatum.

 

[SirStefan32]

I need to stop thinking about this. Focus on learning to like Tatum.

That's exactly where I am placing my expectations.

 

[pokerface]

That's exactly where I am placing my expectations.

That's the "lump of coal" under the tree...

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Bledsoe, Warren, and whatever pick they want except this year's #4.

Thats like the fantasy football trades i offer

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Bleacher report reporting knicks want Bender, chriss, and #4. Id still do it, thats steep but get Book and Kristaps on the same team and figure out the easy parts later.

Would still have Ullis and warren to add to the young core.

Dont forget suns have 2nd pick in 2nd round so could still add a quality dude this year AND the Miami picks to add pieces later.

WHATEVER IT TAKES, lets rob phill jackson for all hes worth

 

[hsandhu]

Frank Isola‏Verified account@FisolaNYDN2h2 hours ago
Would you do Kristaps and another player to Phoenix for the No. 4, Dragan Bender and Eric Bledsoe?


Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account@WojVerticalNBA7m7 minutes ago
Sources: So far, Knicks and Suns are without traction on a Kristaps Porzingis trade. Knicks will not get Devin Booker as part of any deal.

Seems like smoke there, gambo justed tweeted suns have been agressive.

I am not giving up bender, chriss and #4. Hell no, but i worry sarver would. 2 of the 3 plus miami picks and bledsoe for porzinigis and noah contract is where i would look at.

I cannot give up 3 19 year olds with potential, if 2 become all star level talents in their careers the suns made a bad trade. To be a championship level team in the future you'll need a 3rd all star level talent next to booker and porzinigs.

AND 7'3 guys with weird body structures arent exactly built for long term careers, he's already had some injuries, and the way his brother talks they would play out a rookie contract and leave. No one has given up the big extension after year 3, but they talk like they would.

 

[hsandhu]

Celtics are in similar spot as suns, if i'm them i dont know if i can give up 3 young assets. Knicks would want # 3 pick this year, brooklyn next year and probably jaylen brown.

They trade away their entire rebuild.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Frank Isola‏Verified account@FisolaNYDN2h2 hours ago
Would you do Kristaps and another player to Phoenix for the No. 4, Dragan Bender and Eric Bledsoe?


Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account@WojVerticalNBA7m7 minutes ago
Sources: So far, Knicks and Suns are without traction on a Kristaps Porzingis trade. Knicks will not get Devin Booker as part of any deal.

Seems like smoke there, gambo justed tweeted suns have been agressive.

I am not giving up bender, chriss and #4. Hell no, but i worry sarver would. 2 of the 3 plus miami picks and bledsoe for porzinigis and noah contract is where i would look at.

I cannot give up 3 19 year olds with potential, if 2 become all star level talents in their careers the suns made a bad trade. To be a championship level team in the future you'll need a 3rd all star level talent next to booker and porzinigs.

AND 7'3 guys with weird body structures arent exactly built for long term careers, he's already had some injuries, and the way his brother talks they would play out a rookie contract and leave. No one has given up the big extension after year 3, but they talk like they would.

The chances of Bender and Chriss both becoming allstars is risky. Kristaps is about as sure thing as a Superstar can get.

Would suns need a third star or great player? Sure maybe, but you can add that in free agency when the core is ready for a push.

Why would he stay here? Because if he is traded within his four year rookie contract which he is, the Suns can offer him the super max which is more than any other team could offer him. Also, why would you leave if you are in the playoffs with a great young core? Ill take that risk

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Celtics are in similar spot as suns, if i'm them i dont know if i can give up 3 young assets. Knicks would want # 3 pick this year, brooklyn next year and probably jaylen brown.

They trade away their entire rebuild.

Well celtics want to win now so hopefully they want hayward or something and keep the draft picks. Also reportedly knicks want josh jackson which celts will have that option so they have a little more ammo than the suns. But again, if they are trying to win now and keep their assets, gordon hayward or jimmy butler may be better option

 

[hsandhu]

The chances of Bender and Chriss both becoming allstars is risky. Kristaps is about as sure thing as a Superstar can get.

Would suns need a third star or great player? Sure maybe, but you can add that in free agency when the core is ready for a push.

Why would he stay here? Because if he is traded within his four year rookie contract which he is, the Suns can offer him the super max which is more than any other team could offer him. Also, why would you leave if you are in the playoffs with a great young core? Ill take that risk

Sure thing, what about injury issues?

And you're just hoping he wants to be here. His brother may very well be the off camera version of lavar ball, they have been totally unprofessional this offseason. skipping out on exit interviews and refusing to talk to anyone from the knicks... that would scare me.

 

[GatorAZ]

At this time Knicks still want Booker as they should. Bring on 4pm!

 

[hsandhu]

Well celtics want to win now so hopefully they want hayward or something and keep the draft picks. Also reportedly knicks want josh jackson which celts will have that option so they have a little more ammo than the suns. But again, if they are trying to win now and keep their assets, gordon hayward or jimmy butler may be better option

celtics number 1 priority is future not winning now. russilo talks to people in the front office, they realize they have no shot at title now, they are very unlikely to mortgage future.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Well cant point to injuries, thats an unforseen risk for any player. Everything good comes with some level of risk obviously. If you want to play that game Bender is almost as tall and missed half the season.

Yeah well kristaps also said he loves NY and wants to stay there. Im not saying it right that he skipped them but i dont think that would have any bearing on whether or not to make the trade

 

[hsandhu]

Porzingis is already dealing with injuries in nba career, he had questions coming into the draft because of them... bender didn't. And in general porzinigs just has a much more hulking frame than bender.

 

[hsandhu]

BTW, i'm reading boston boards and their fans are delusional... thinking #3 and avery bradley and or jae crowder will get it done. At least we're mostly talking about giving up multiple young assets.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Porzingis is already dealing with injuries in nba career, he had questions coming into the draft because of them... bender didn't. And in general porzinigs just has a much more hulking frame than bender.

Im not disagreeing with you but he played 66 games last year and 72 the year before which is a slight red flag to me but thats all. He was on a terrible team going no where im sure they were cautious with him, especially in this new "resting" league we are in

 

[NashDishesDimes]

BTW, i'm reading boston boards and their fans are delusional... thinking #3 and avery bradley and or jae crowder will get it done. At least we're mostly talking about giving up multiple young assets.

Yeah they dont have any budding young guys to throw in. I didnt watch them too much but jaylen brown never showed anything i noticed. Id say Chriss has more value than Brown but could he wrong

 

[sunsfan88]

Yeah they dont have any budding young guys to throw in. I didnt watch them too much but jaylen brown never showed anything i noticed. Id say Chriss has more value than Brown but could he wrong

Brown is good and may have more value than Chriss but if we add Warren/Bledsoe to Chriss and #3 then they don't have any actual players to add who can match that.