Time for the Cards to go QB shopping?

[Divide Et Impera]

I think the answer to this question is rather self-evident, but what approach should the Cards take?

I had a thought that I want to pass along here and I would like for this thread in general to be a place for you all to place your thoughts.

When I was looking through the league records and scores today, DEN caught my eye. It's not just the 59-14 drubbing they took at home that was such a shocker, but that they have begun this season 2-5 was what really got me thinking.

Why don't the Cards try to trade for Kyle Orton?

Let's think about a few things:

-He's 27 (just coming into his prime)
-He's got legit QB size (6'4"/225lbs)
-He has thrown for over 2100 yards already (300+ ypg)
-He has nearly a 3:1 TD:Int ratio

Now, I don't know if he's available, but I don't see why he couldn't be gotten. If we plug Orton into this offense, we immediately have a legitimate passer and a functional offense.

I'd like your feedback and criticism on this as well as any other ideas of QBs out there as well as strategies for obtaining them....

 

[Buckybird]

Keep dreaming, the Cards usually don't give up high picks for players. He is a winner, though something always seems to be missing with his game that I can't fiqure out what it is.

 

[MrYeahBut]

When Denver traded Cutler for Orton I thought they were out of their minds. I thought Cutler was better than he has turned out to be and Orton was worse. Guess I was wrong on both counts.

He would seem to be a steady, if unspectacular, option.

I think he got signed to a longer term deal, so I'm not sure it's really feasible

I'm not sure where else the Cards could really turn. I know the McNabb thing was discussed ad nauseum, but I don't foresee that happening either. It's really a wasteland if you ask me...there is nobody.

It boggles my mind that there aren't more than a handful of guys in the whole freakin world that can actually excel at the position

 

[desertdawg]

When Denver traded Cutler for Orton I thought they were out of their minds. I thought Cutler was better than he has turned out to be and Orton was worse. Guess I was wrong on both counts.

He would seem to be a steady, if unspectacular, option.

I think he got signed to a longer term deal, so I'm not sure it's really feasible

I'm not sure where else the Cards could really turn. I know the McNabb thing was discussed ad nauseum, but I don't foresee that happening either. It's really a wasteland if you ask me...there is nobody.

It boggles my mind that there aren't more than a handful of guys in the whole freakin world that can actually excel at the position

How hard is it for a NFL QB to hit a wide open Fitz?

 

[MoeIsBetter]

If were going out to get someone then go get Kolb (if available). He plays just the way we need a QB to play.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I'm not sure where else the Cards could really turn. I know the McNabb thing was discussed ad nauseum, but I don't foresee that happening either. It's really a wasteland if you ask me...there is nobody.

My concern exactly!!!

This is why I thought of Orton when looking through the scores today. Nobody else came to mind. Our opportunity for Schaub and Cassel passed during a period of time when we didn't need them anyway. Where else can we find a QB like that? That's my big question and Orton is literally the only one I could think of.

I just don't get it. There is NOTHING out there. If the Cowboys keep sucking the place up, Romo might be available, but would we even want him? I'm not so sure. He's better than what we have now by a long shot, but is he a viable option over the long term? I'd say Orton is miles ahead of Romo in that regard.

In San Diego, they are falling apart as a team, but Rivers is a franchise guy so there ain't a shot in hell at getting him.

Who else is there?

 

[Dayman]

When Denver traded Cutler for Orton I thought they were out of their minds. I thought Cutler was better than he has turned out to be and Orton was worse. Guess I was wrong on both counts.

He would seem to be a steady, if unspectacular, option.

I think he got signed to a longer term deal, so I'm not sure it's really feasible

I'm not sure where else the Cards could really turn. I know the McNabb thing was discussed ad nauseum, but I don't foresee that happening either. It's really a wasteland if you ask me...there is nobody.

It boggles my mind that there aren't more than a handful of guys in the whole freakin world that can actually excel at the position

It was only a one year extension. He's signed through 2011.

I never thought I'd say this after listening to my Bears fan brother complain about him for years, but I'd take Orton in a heartbeat. At least it would give us a shot at keeping Fitz.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Kolb is an interesting choice, but Vick would be available before him I think. Kolb is another young guy with prototypical size. What about a Fitzpatrick?

 

[MrYeahBut]

If were going out to get someone then go get Kolb (if available). He plays just the way we need a QB to play.

This would seem viable on the surface. I not sure the FO would pay for it, whatever the cost, it's bound to be high. If he is on the market there is sure to be plenty of competition for him

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Trade deadline has passed: we're stuck with the crap sandwich made by Whis.

 

[thephoenixson28]

Michael Vick open everything up, and keeps defense on there toes. As much people hate Michael vick as a person, don't define him as a player. I don't know why cards fans don't want him. Trust me we need a Michael vick for fitz sake.

 

[MrYeahBut]

How hard is it for a NFL QB to hit a wide open Fitz?

Appearently it's harder than you might imagine. Noone on the Cards roster is able to do it at this juncture...hence my point. There aren't but a few guys in the world that can do it consistently

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Trade deadline has passed: we're stuck with the crap sandwich made by Whis.

Sh*t.

Well, I guess it all comes down to FAs. Anyone on this board thinking about trying out?

 

[CaptTurbo]

I say Anquan Boldin for QB and run the wildcat lol

 

[az240zz]

Trade Fritz for the #1 next year

 

[AZ Native]

We are stuck. This is it. What we have is what we have.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Trade Fritz for the #1 next year

What QBs are available high that are actually a viable fit for our team?

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Trade Fritz for the #1 next year

And proceed with a WR core of Breaston, Roberts and Doucet?

No thanks. That's addition by subtraction.

 

[Russ Smith]

IF you mean this year, the trade deadline passed on 10-19.

Next year, I'm not a huge Orton fan but he's better than what we have now.
Depends on what Denver does though, I doubt they like Quinn and I doubt they are ready to turn it over to Tebow.

I still think Cincy might cut loose Carson Palmer, he had a huge day today against Atlanta, they're 2-4 and they are sort of at a crossroads where they need an infusion of youth on offense and WR. I could see them taking a QB early if they get a high enough pick and then trying to trade Palmer, even on draft day, to get picks to stock the WR spot.

I've also heard that Palmer is not happy and has essentially let it be known if they want to trade him he'd be open to it. Would be for next year of course.
They picked LeFevour this year but I doubt he's close to taking over he's still 3rd string.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Hmmm. Palmer could revive his career in the desert much like Warner did. Count me as interested in that scenario....

 

[Diamondback Jay]

What QBs are available high that are actually a viable fit for our team?

Andrew Luck is the cream of the crop.. Yet, if Buffalo or San Francisco wind up with higher picks than Arizona (likely at this point), he'll not last.

Otherwise there's Jake Locker and Ryan Mallett, and both have major question marks (in my opinion) that are concerning. Beyond that, the pickings at QB in the draft are extremely slim.

 

[Russ Smith]

Hmmm. Palmer could revive his career in the desert much like Warner did. Count me as interested in that scenario....

Yep he's 30 and he hasn't played great since the knee injury but he's better than what we have by a mile.

I forgot, Chicago actually picked LeFevour but cut him and Cincy signed him so it's very unlikely he's their QBOF. Palmer's brother is the backup. They'd have to draft high enough to get a QB to do it and there's no guarantee they would.

I remember Skip Bayless talking about it a week or two ago on ESPN he of course hates TO, calls him Team Obliterator, and he said it's not coincidence that the year Cincy gets TO, Carson Palmer tells them if they need to trade him to improve the team, he's not opposed. Palmer tolerated a lot of nonsense with Ochocinco but him and TO probably put him over the top.

 

[kerouac9]

Yep he's 30 and he hasn't played great since the knee injury but he's better than what we have by a mile.

I forgot, Chicago actually picked LeFevour but cut him and Cincy signed him so it's very unlikely he's their QBOF. Palmer's brother is the backup. They'd have to draft high enough to get a QB to do it and there's no guarantee they would.

I remember Skip Bayless talking about it a week or two ago on ESPN he of course hates TO, calls him Team Obliterator, and he said it's not coincidence that the year Cincy gets TO, Carson Palmer tells them if they need to trade him to improve the team, he's not opposed. Palmer tolerated a lot of nonsense with Ochocinco but him and TO probably put him over the top.

After watching the last 5 minutes of the Tampa Bay game two weeks ago, I'm not sure I can say with any certainty that Carson Palmer is better than Derek Anderson. He was better than Derek Anderson, but he's got better weapons around him.

 

[Russ Smith]

After watching the last 5 minutes of the Tampa Bay game two weeks ago, I'm not sure I can say with any certainty that Carson Palmer is better than Derek Anderson. He was better than Derek Anderson, but he's got better weapons around him.

He can look really bad at times but it's almost to me like he's just so tired of all the nonsense in Cincy. He's tired of being the "good guy" on a team that keeps bringing in reclamation projects.

I'd rather have Luck but I hear the only way he leaves is if Harbaugh takes an NFL job, and there isn't another QB in college right now who I really love.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

He can look really bad at times but it's almost to me like he's just so tired of all the nonsense in Cincy. He's tired of being the "good guy" on a team that keeps bringing in reclamation projects.

I'd rather have Luck but I hear the only way he leaves is if Harbaugh takes an NFL job, and there isn't another QB in college right now who I really love.

He'll be the number 1 overall pick in the draft IMHO.. He'll leave.