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The top candidates are going to NY and Chicago respectively first Because of a higher pic, Eli and Trubisky to build around. I’d take Chicago over here because of a qb already drafted in Trubisky. Someone young would have to start completely from scratch and there is little glamor in this job. But it’s still better then the Browns lol

If anyone is building around Eli, they need their head examined.

As for the qb situation it can be a tricky thing. HCs have egos and want to pick their guys. Having a qb in place can be just as big a detriment for some as a recruiting tool for others. For example, if a coach doesn't think trubisky is a franchise qb then they arent going to Chicago
 

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If anyone is building around Eli, they need their head examined.

As for the qb situation it can be a tricky thing. HCs have egos and want to pick their guys. Having a qb in place can be just as big a detriment for some as a recruiting tool for others. For example, if a coach doesn't think trubisky is a franchise qb then they arent going to Chicago

Also depends on the offense. If the good young QB has never played in a system like the potential coach runs, it might not look so rosy of a situation for the coach.
 

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My only comment is do NOT hire a Patriots assistant. in general they have not done well which points to a few things, Belichick and Brady are the guys that make that team so good, not the assistants. Also, as McDaniels proved in Denver, a big part of the success in NE is based on the breaking of rules philosophy they have, Denver's owner and GM were so embarassed that McDaniels got caught cheating so soon after taking the job, they couldn't wait to get rid of him.

He's more experienced now but there's no reason to believe he's going to be good without a QB and frankly that's true of just about anybody we hire, so why hire someone with a proven history of breaking the rules?
 

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My only comment is do NOT hire a Patriots assistant. in general they have not done well which points to a few things, Belichick and Brady are the guys that make that team so good, not the assistants. Also, as McDaniels proved in Denver, a big part of the success in NE is based on the breaking of rules philosophy they have, Denver's owner and GM were so embarassed that McDaniels got caught cheating so soon after taking the job, they couldn't wait to get rid of him.

He's more experienced now but there's no reason to believe he's going to be good without a QB and frankly that's true of just about anybody we hire, so why hire someone with a proven history of breaking the rules?

What did he do to cheat?
 

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Munchak was asked to fire some assistants at Tenessese to keep his head coaching job. He refused and was let go. So he is a great character guy. And just like BA, he will be loyal to a fault.

Munchak may be the best OL coach in NFL. Has HC experience. And can pull in top assistants.

I am intrigued by Munchak.


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Munchak was asked to fire some assistants at Tenessese to keep his head coaching job. He refused and was let go. So he is a great character guy. And just like BA, he will be loyal to a fault.

Munchak may be the best OL coach in NFL. Has HC experience. And can pull in top assistants.

I am intrigued by Munchak.


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How good are your assistants, if you're asked to fire them?

Vance Joeseph can tell you that answer.

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All over NFLN today: AZ is sixth best option of the six openings because of the QB situation.
Not the NFLN I was watching. Michael Silver and Maurice Jones-Drew said it was maybe the 2nd best after NYG and maybe the best. Don't know what you were watching.
 

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Not the NFLN I was watching. Michael Silver and Maurice Jones-Drew said it was maybe the 2nd best after NYG and maybe the best. Don't know what you were watching.

Charley Casserly said it multiple times on their Aftermath coverage throughout midday, with other talking heads agreeing.
 

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Charley Casserly said it multiple times on their Aftermath coverage throughout midday, with other talking heads agreeing.


I find it hard to believe that the FO doesn't have some kind of plan for this eventually. We fans may not like the how the plan works out in the short term but I doubt we're going into next season with the likes of Blaine Gabbert under center.
 

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I find it hard to believe that the FO doesn't have some kind of plan for this eventually. We fans may not like the how the plan works out in the short term but I doubt we're going into next season with the likes of Blaine Gabbert under center.

I’d agree, but if the plan was Eli, the Giants may have something to say about it. If the plan is offloading boatloads of draft picks to move up, a new coach may be wary of a bare cupboard. It will be the most fascinating offseason to watch unfold.
 

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I’d agree, but if the plan was Eli, the Giants may have something to say about it. If the plan is offloading boatloads of draft picks to move up, a new coach may be wary of a bare cupboard. It will be the most fascinating offseason to watch unfold.


I could totally be off base here but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Palmer is done, a new coach notwithstanding. Fitz either for that matter.
 

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I could totally be off base here but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Palmer is done, a new coach notwithstanding. Fitz either for that matter.

Yeah, but long term they won’t be around like some stars on other teams with vacancies.
 

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What did he do to cheat?


They caught him in Denver videotaping a SF 49er practice.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...aniels-50000-each-for-videotaping-infraction/

The guy who did the taping had been caught violating NFL rules with the Pats years earlier, something McDaniels knew all about. The NFL did say McDaniels was offered a chance to watch the video of the practice and declined, but he got fined anyways because he didn't immediately report the infraction to the NFL as required.

The Broncos were furious because they'd been very careful during the interview process with McDaniels to make sure that there wasn't going to be anything like that, they'd apparently also initially been hesitant to let him hire Scarnechia the guy who did the taping, but they relented after McDaniels vouched for him.

Both the Broncos and McDaniels were fined 50K, there were reports the Broncos strongly considered terminating his contract for cause but didn't.
 

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Yeah, but long term they won’t be around like some stars on other teams with vacancies.


Do you think it would help to have them around to help their respective replacements acclimate to the NFL game? Not that they'd especially like or agree to being lame duck players. Fitz has records to chase, Palmer may not want to go out the way he did.. When they say it ain't about the money, it's about the money.. Etc
 

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This guy kind of intrigues me from Mitch's list, Pete Carmicheal (NO OC). My only question about him is he calling the plays or is Peyton calling the plays? I would only be interested in Carmicheal if he is doing most of the game planning week to week for the Saints. He certainly has done a very nice job in NO using Kamara and Ingram and developing a running game next to none in the NFL. The offense went from primarily a passing attack to a nice mix of run and pass. The Cardinals have the RBs in place to grow a similar run game as NO.

I also get the large number of interviews of NE assistants. There is no doubt that Keim and Bidwill are looking to build a similar structure as they have in NE and are hoping to find the one assistant from NE that can become the next Belichick. I think they want to find a mainstay for years to come and not have to replace a HC every few years or so.
 

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Offensive Minded Candidates:

Would make sense if the priority is developing a QBOF and an offense designed around RB David Johnson.

2. Todd Haley (PIT OC)---wants another chance to prove himself as a HC and was highly successful as an OC with the Cardinals. Has been highly productive in PIT, but reports of the continued tension between him and Big Ben are troublesome. The Cardinals would want to know what veteran QB Haley would want as his 2018 starter and who his choice for DC would be. Mike Pettine, the former CLE HC, could be hot choice for DC for a number of the offensive minded candidates. Would Haley be amenable to keeping James Bettcher as DC? Typically it is best for a new HC to hire his own staff.

Todd Haley makes a lot of sense. He has been both a HC and successful OC. He has ties to AZ, so that either makes him the inside favorite or he won't be considered (depending on his relationships).

The questions are what has he learned since the KC job and what kind of leader would he be in AZ? Does anyone know if he is considered a strong game plan coach (can he-out coach others and does he make adjustments based on match-ups/personnel, etc)?
 

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