Trade Nash??

[Errntknght]

Yikes, first Chaplin and now I'm agreeing with Grahamcrackr... if we get a big it needs to be someone with some sort of an inside game and Wilcox fits that. It's also a move that won't necessarily be short term. I actually like the idea of Amare and Wilcox playing together on the offensive end. True, if you just threw them out on the floor together they'd be somewhat in each other's way but with practiced, coordinated activity I could see them aiding each other and scoring bundles of points in the paint. And with less reliance on Amare scoring huge numbers by himself - maybe a few people will now agree that thinking about reducing the load we put on Amare's shoulders is not a ridiculous idea, as they did when I brought it up in conjunction with making Amare more of a playmaking passer.

I bring up playing them together because the Suns will not be a very attractive destination for Wilcox if he's a temporary fill-in who's relegated to being Amare's backup when the latter returns to full strength.

The two together is not great for the defensive end - at least my little recollection of Wilcox's D is that he is best as a weak side helper and shot blocker, like Amare.

 

[goldseraph]

Everyone still hating me on this idea? Nash is gonna take a beating this year and be a year older next when we have Amare back. I think the Spurs will still dominate the West next year, even assuming we stay healthy. If we are shooting at being a dominant team more based around defense and rebounding, could it not be prudent to accept a trade of Nash for promising younger talent?

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Everyone still hating me on this idea?

Yes

 

[TradeNash]

Trade Nash and Jjax for Luke Ridnour and Ray Allen, whoooo!

 

[goldseraph]

Trade Nash and Jjax for Luke Ridnour and Ray Allen, whoooo!

nooooo this doesnt fix anything, still a long term deal signed to an over 30 guy.

 

[nowagimp]

Do you guys think anyone would be interested in trading for Nash?
We had him for our one shot at a title, and it was an admirable run, but next
year Nash will be 33 and making a lot of money. If we traded Nash for young talent / picks, and just tanked this year, maybe our future could be bright again in 2-3 years?

Possible suitors:

Celtics
Nuggets
Pacers?

Maybe we could trade Amare too and double our screw up( 2 for 1). After all we dont know if his knee will ever be the same again and he just signed the MAX.

 

[JS22]

I was actually thinking of posting something similar this morning, but didnt want to get blasted by the board.

If for some reason Amare is unable to come back this year, I think it would be wise to trade Nash while his value is still high. I'd prefer a young, athletic big man and a backup point in return. Every single game this season, the Suns have played better with Nash on the bench.

Hopefully it isn't an early season fluke, but Barbosa and Diaw look like the future of this team. Diaw and Barbosa could easily handle the PG duties, even with Diaw playing SF / PF / C / QB / RB / C / Whatever.

However, I can't think of any big men off the top of my head that interest me? Wilcox? eh... Ely? Not for nash.

Still, it's an interesting thought at the very least.

 

[nowagimp]

What the hell is going on with this board?? This is absolutely mind-boggling.

that is the problem with a chat board, you can never tell if someons smells like whiskey or is slurring their speech.

 

[elindholm]

Wilcox? eh... Ely? Not for nash.

Good to see you're holding out for some quality. I agree that Nash for Ely would probably favor the Bobcats.

 

[The Commish]

What the hell is going on? You guys seriously want to trade Nash? I can somewhat understand your reasoning, but seriously I think you guys need to relax...

 

[goldseraph]

Im not demanding a Nash trade or trying to be ridiculous. Its just a theoretical question, it's funny how some people seem to take it personally.
I don't think it's so insanely absurd that it's beyond any debate - a few posters have agreed to an extent with me.

If I were the Suns' GM, I would see how things look at the all-star break. If Amare is looking great in his rehab and the team is playing well without him, I'd hold on to Nash. If the team is struggling, losing most of their close games, and Nash is getting beat up while Amare decides to sit out the year - I could see being open to trading Nash for a young PG and center, such as TJ Ford and Gadzuric of MIL (if Ford's health and play stay this great).

 

[nowagimp]

What the hell is going on? You guys seriously want to trade Nash? I can somewhat understand your reasoning, but seriously I think you guys need to relax...

Dont worry, its the liquor(from last night) talking. It could be worse, we lost a game in the last minute to a "top 3 three team" without our best player. Take it easy on the booze guys!!

 

[wilkinshui]

Im not demanding a Nash trade or trying to be ridiculous. Its just a theoretical question, it's funny how some people seem to take it personally.
I don't think it's so insanely absurd that it's beyond any debate - a few posters have agreed to an extent with me.

If I were the Suns' GM, I would see how things look at the all-star break. If Amare is looking great in his rehab and the team is playing well without him, I'd hold on to Nash. If the team is struggling, losing most of their close games, and Nash is getting beat up while Amare decides to sit out the year - I could see being open to trading Nash for a young PG and center, such as TJ Ford and Gadzuric of MIL (if Ford's health and play stay this great).

why do we want to go backward and rebuild again? i mean when TJ ford or other young players who could carry the team, they may probably about 30 years old, and we have to trade them for another young player again.. doesnt make sense to me. it is not easy to carry a team especially in the NBA level

 

[sunsfn]

"WOW"

You leave for a few hours and come back to trading Nash!!

The suns are not going to rebuild, they have been there done that.
Nash will be here when Amare comes back and also next year.

We traded and signed veteran players this off season because we had a chance to go all the way. The JJ deal might have not gone the way the suns planned, but they came out fine with the picks and Diaw. I think the suns make make a trade at the deadline with the TE, or they may use one of the draft picks to get a big.

I actually wish they would get the big like Wilcox now if they could. He would fit right in and be an inside player and be there to play with Amare when he comes back.

In that game last night we missed some outside shots that we did not miss last year. Without Amare they are really needed to win games.

Wilcox or a player like him would score inside and that is desperatly needed right now.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

Actually, I brought it up AFTER last season. Nash is at the height of his tradability after his lights out year last year. I was looking that we could trade and maybe get a young big and young PG to evolve with Amare. No way Nash stays competitive over the life of the contract he signed with us. No way. However, because of what happened to Amare, we have to keep him 1 more year, IMHO. That probably means in all essence he's a Sun for life now.

Why couldn't he stay competetive? John Stockton was. Nash may lose some speed, but his offensive IQ is comparable to Stocktons.

I think a lot of this misconception that Nash can't last the entire length of the contract was planted into people's minds by Mark Cuban after Nash signed the contract.

 

[AsUdUdE]

Nash Stays

YES absolutly trade Nash... under the following circumstances:


Straight up:

Trade: Nash
Recieve: Kevin Garnett


Straight Up:

Trade: Nash
Recieve: Lebron James

Straight up:

Trade: Nash
Recieve: Tim Duncan


unless they can get one of those three players for nash straight up, Nash stays!

 

[devilalum]

YES absolutly trade Nash... under the following circumstances:


Straight up:

Trade: Nash
Recieve: Kevin Garnett


Straight Up:

Trade: Nash
Recieve: Lebron James

Straight up:

Trade: Nash
Recieve: Tim Duncan


unless they can get one of those three players for nash straight up, Nash stays!

Duane Wade?

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Duane Wade?

Maybe Dwayne Wade

 

[AzStevenCal]

Dwayne Wade? That's the risk you take when you correct someone else's spelling. If you check, I think you'll find Mr Wade uses a much less standard form than either Duane or Dwayne. He's got a "y" in his name that refuses to conform to convention. I'm being purposely vague because I don't want to look it up nor do I wish to become the 2nd incorrect corrector but I believe it's spelled Dwyane.

Steve

 

[elindholm]

You could have looked it up in 1/3 the time it took to explain why you weren't looking it up.

But anyway, it's Dwyane, and there's no way the Heat would trade him for Nash.

 

[devilalum]

You could have looked it up in 1/3 the time it took to explain why you weren't looking it up.

But anyway, it's Dwyane, and there's no way the Heat would trade him for Nash.

I thought the point was to create a list of players you would trade Nash for not determine whether any team would actually do it.

My guess is that Nash probably has the lowest trade value of any reigning MVP EVER.

 

[elindholm]

I thought the point was to create a list of players you would trade Nash for not determine whether any team would actually do it.

Could be, I haven't been paying attention that carefully. Sorry.

My guess is that Nash probably has the lowest trade value of any reigning MVP EVER.

Good point.

 

[jibikao]

I agree, Trade Nash now. I am thinking Nash to Philly for Iverson, straight up. We would be getting a great defender and team chemistry guy in return. The math works, put your calculators away.

We might even consider packaging those two first round picks for a guy like Speedy Claxton from the Hornets or Robert Pack from the Hornets...

Nash for Iverson?? Dude... is that REALLY want you want?? Him and Amare = Combo ???

AI is another version of Marbury.... like that would like Amare.

 

[jibikao]

Maybe we could trade Amare too and double our screw up( 2 for 1). After all we dont know if his knee will ever be the same again and he just signed the MAX.

wrong post

 

[jibikao]

I was actually thinking of posting something similar this morning, but didnt want to get blasted by the board.

If for some reason Amare is unable to come back this year, I think it would be wise to trade Nash while his value is still high. I'd prefer a young, athletic big man and a backup point in return. Every single game this season, the Suns have played better with Nash on the bench.

Hopefully it isn't an early season fluke, but Barbosa and Diaw look like the future of this team. Diaw and Barbosa could easily handle the PG duties, even with Diaw playing SF / PF / C / QB / RB / C / Whatever.

However, I can't think of any big men off the top of my head that interest me? Wilcox? eh... Ely? Not for nash.

Still, it's an interesting thought at the very least.

That's exactly what I thought. That kind of injury can ruin a player's career. Should we trade Amare soon?

Since we lost JJ and Q, we might as well trade Marion and start a whole new team.

And if you let Nash go another western team (like T-Wolves), maybe Nash would have his revenge again (EX: Dallas last year).

Dude, you don't just TRADE people to make the team better. You also keep the players to "prevent" other teams from growing stronger. That's the mistake Mavs did last season. Yeah, I don't expect Nash to be like that again but you never know what would happen when Nash goes to a young team that needs leadership. (Suns last year).