V (Remake)

[Chaplin]

i know I'm chiming in late here but the reason they weren't coming back for so long was because the show was in chaos after the network saw cuts of the first four episodes. They ended up blowing out the show-runners after the first four episodes and shut down production, brought in new show-runners and some new staff and completely re-broke and re-wrote the rest of the season. That place was apparently a HUGE clusterfrick back in November.

curious if the people who watch it from the first four to now can see any differences in how the show's written, better, worse, no different.

I think you may be partially right, but to outright dismiss my original speculation is a mistake, IMO.

As for a difference, I think the first four had more action, the recent ones have been more in a groove. I'm watching the show (as I work for the company that produces it), and it's keeping my interest, but it's nowhere near the level of Lost. I still have no doubt whatsoever that this was intended to be ABC's Lost replacement. There's still a chance for it to get renewed, but you gotta think that ABC has some high-concept pilots coming in the fall.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think you may be partially right, but to outright dismiss my original speculation is a mistake, IMO.

chap, you should just trust I know what i'm talking about here and even if you don't, it was all over the news in the reporter/variety/deadline/tv by the numbers about how production shut down two separate times, once in late August, once in late September and even then, they still replaced the show-runner the day after the premiere.

 

[Chaplin]

chap, you should just trust I know what i'm talking about here and even if you don't, it was all over the news in the reporter/variety/deadline/tv by the numbers about how production shut down two separate times, once in late August, once in late September and even then, they still replaced the show-runner the day after the premiere.

So I should trust what you're talking about, but you don't trust what I'm talking about? I thought we were in the same industry. Like I said, I do believe you, but I still think they originally planned a schedule like this because of Lost.

 

[Cheesebeef]

So I should trust what you're talking about, but you don't trust what I'm talking about? I thought we were in the same industry. Like I said, I do believe you, but I still think they originally planned a schedule like this because of Lost.

Chap, you've said above that you're speculating about went down. What I'm telling you is I'm not speculating. This isn't me trying to say I'm smarter than you here or anything like that. I just actually know what went down with this particular show. now if you don't want to believe me, fair enough. but am I really one to just lie about something that I claim to have actual knowledge of?

and again, regardless of whether or not you believe I was familiar with the subject in a way most people aren't (and why would I lie?), there's a ton of info out there that the show was halted twice and that it's show-runner was kicked to curb and that it was generally a mess at the outset which made it's scheduling shift throughout it's start. whatever plan they had changed as the chaos behind the scenes got bigger and bigger.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/08/26/v-takes-a-two-week-timeout/25482

note that in the article above, originally, V was supposed to air 6 episodes in the last quarter of last year, but when it got halted again in late September, that's when things got thrown even farther out of whack which gave them only 4 episodes to fire off. But just the fact that it was supposed to air 6 episodes originally shows that the plan was never to have such a long layoff.

here's an article about the 2nd shut down within a month:

http://scifitvzone.com/2009/09/27/v-production-shut-down-again-a-bit-of-editorializing/

and here's the article about the show-runner getting canned and having a new one brought in.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010788.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&query=v+showrunner

bottom line, this show was in a state of chaos from the beginning, which is what accounted for the extremely long break.

Look, I work in a writer's room and I've worked directly with a show-runner which means I'm on every call with the network and studio and there isn't one of any of those people who would actively plan to debut a show with only four episodes and then yank it from the air for 3 months. That's a sure way to kill yourself.

 

[Stout]

This show was a casualty of the idiotic start-then-take-huge-break TV B.S. for me. Cheese, now I understand why it was so short, but even six-and-break would have been ********. Meh, I didn't miss it and didn't even realize it was back except for this thread.

 

[Pariah]

I like it ... and now that it's been mentioned, it IS moving at a better pace since the break.

 

[Angel]

I have watched from the beginning and did noticed a difference after the break but it was sort of subtle and not necessarily for the better.

I have to say I don't really like the show, but don't hate it either; it doesn’t get any "live" time--DVRed and watch when I can. I am waiting to see what happens but so far I'm not sure I would miss it if it were gone and find it strange to be saying but I think I actually enjoyed its corny predecessor more.

 

[Cheesebeef]

V was just renewed for season 2.

 

[MadCardDisease]

V was just renewed for season 2.

Awesome news. Thanks!

 

[Covert Rain]

When I heard this I was stoked. Season 2. I love the cast and I think the show is pretty good. I am not kidding myself though. This show lasting the entire season or into season 3 is a pipe dream. However, there are not that many good sci-fi shows on and I think this one is pretty good IMO.

 

[Chaplin]

Just a little inside info for those of you interested.

One of the biggest problems this show has had is the quality of it's EFX, mainly any scene shot in the ships. This has been debated since the show premiered.

I can tell you that money really wasn't the problem, the problem has been time. They simply were not able to spend enough time to make the effects better. That, to me, is one of the big, perhaps even the biggest, reasons why the show was renewed. Give the show a better production schedule, and you'll see a huge rise in the quality of the EFX, which in turn will help everything else with it.

It's not one of my favorite shows, but I'm happy it was renewed and will be looking forward to season 2.

 

[ActingWild]

Just a little inside info for those of you interested.

One of the biggest problems this show has had is the quality of it's EFX, mainly any scene shot in the ships. This has been debated since the show premiered.

I can tell you that money really wasn't the problem, the problem has been time. They simply were not able to spend enough time to make the effects better. That, to me, is one of the big, perhaps even the biggest, reasons why the show was renewed. Give the show a better production schedule, and you'll see a huge rise in the quality of the EFX, which in turn will help everything else with it.

It's not one of my favorite shows, but I'm happy it was renewed and will be looking forward to season 2.

So, it wasn't just me that thought the effect laden scenes looked rushed? When you compare what they did with the pilot to what they've been doing...well, there's no comparison. Hopefully, you're right and with the production schedule getting hammered out they'll be able to get things back in shape, because I do enjoy this show but the scenes on the ship just scream green screen to me.

 

[Chaplin]

So, it wasn't just me that thought the effect laden scenes looked rushed? When you compare what they did with the pilot to what they've been doing...well, there's no comparison. Hopefully, you're right and with the production schedule getting hammered out they'll be able to get things back in shape, because I do enjoy this show but the scenes on the ship just scream green screen to me.

My source is the Publicity people for the show that work for the studio that produces the show, so I definitely put a lot of stock in what they tell me.

Incidentally, this is also the same person who is the publicity person for Supernatural, Smallville, One Tree Hill and Chuck. (Gotten some good swag from those shows in the past)

 

[PDXChris]

Just a little inside info for those of you interested.

One of the biggest problems this show has had is the quality of it's EFX, mainly any scene shot in the ships. This has been debated since the show premiered.

I can tell you that money really wasn't the problem, the problem has been time. They simply were not able to spend enough time to make the effects better. That, to me, is one of the big, perhaps even the biggest, reasons why the show was renewed. Give the show a better production schedule, and you'll see a huge rise in the quality of the EFX, which in turn will help everything else with it.

It's not one of my favorite shows, but I'm happy it was renewed and will be looking forward to season 2.

I kind of like the bad effects, it gives it that 80's feel at times like you are watching the original.

 

[Covert Rain]

The FX is not a major issue with me either. They are passable IMO. Yes it would be nice but I don't think that is the reason people are tuning in or tuning out. If the show sucks and has the best FX people won't watch. However, it the show is really good, people will overlook stuff like FX.

It's all about the writing IMO. Having said that, I welcome anything that will improve the show. As stated above, I like it.

 

[ActingWild]

So, judging by what happened in the finale...which was a whole heck of a lot, I'm guessing they're basically rebooting the whole thing. Which, I think will be good. Waaay too much covert snooping around, alien hybrid baby, teenage love story going on (Much like Kim in 24, I just hate the kids story lines). It looks like we'll finally get into a mode of a war to save our species and planet...which is what "V" should be about.

 

[Covert Rain]

So, judging by what happened in the finale...which was a whole heck of a lot, I'm guessing they're basically rebooting the whole thing. Which, I think will be good. Waaay too much covert snooping around, alien hybrid baby, teenage love story going on (Much like Kim in 24, I just hate the kids story lines). It looks like we'll finally get into a mode of a war to save our species and planet...which is what "V" should be about.

I don't see it as a reboot. It's more of a progression to the similar story line that the original series had. Also, I like that they spent more time showing how the V's can manipulate and insert themselves into every facet of society before revealing their plan.

 

[Town Drunk]

Anyone still watching this?

 

[Chaplin]

Anyone still watching this?

I still am, but it's been tough. Nothing ever happens in the show. Not to mention absolutely horrible CGI--not as bad this week as it was last week, but still...

 

[PDXChris]

I still am, but it's been tough. Nothing ever happens in the show. Not to mention absolutely horrible CGI--not as bad this week as it was last week, but still...

+1

 

[Pariah]

I stopped watching a couple of episodes ago. Sooooo boring.

 

[Town Drunk]

Every episode I'm hoping for the "all out war." And every episode I leave disappointed. The whole plot line with Ryan and his kid is aggravating....

 

[AzStevenCal]

I stopped watching a couple of episodes ago. Sooooo boring.

You left out a few "ooooo's". It was sooooooooooooo booooooooring.

Steve

 

[Angel]

The oooooooo's have it.

I thought the addition of Diana, the original too, would pick things up but they even managed to make her dull. I thought the original show was cheesey but at least it was entertaining cheese. After each episode of this version, and yes I do still watch, I am left thinking "What just happened?" Oh yeah, "Nothing".

 

[Covert Rain]

I am still watching and still enjoying. Looks like they are picking up the pace and starting to fight back against the V's more openly. I think the next logical step is to out the V's because I don't think it's very plausible for all these events to occur (like Red Rain) and assume it's all innocent on the V's part.