Vernon Davis is a WR

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And should be treated as so. Man cannot block and that is not what is expected of him by the Niners, they use him as a WR and get results on teams which view him as a TE simpy because of the position he plays. I have a good feeling Peterson will be able to match up on Crabtree the second time around, but what do we do with Davis.
 

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I thought they should have put peterson on him last game. Davis will obviously push him around but peterson could make up for it with his speed and ball skills..

Jefferson and marshall can handle crabtree, hes not good..
 

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Vernon Davis cannot block? is this the end of the world? lol

And no, he does not play WR on our team. He's put in to block A LOT. And he's great at it--top 5 in the league in terms of starting TEs for sure. He can be dangerous in the passing game also, but lately he's been dropping a ton of balls. Dalanie Walker is a better pass catching TE than Vernon Davis and just as dangerous, becase he used to play WR in college.

Anyway, it won't come to them. Crabtree will just abuse Patrick Peterson all game again FTW!

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Our PPG on defense will be in the 12s after this week. (13.4 right now)
 
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Vernon Davis cannot block? is this the end of the world? lol

And no, he does not play WR on our team. He's put in to block A LOT. And he's great at it--top 5 in the league in terms of starting TEs for sure. He can be dangerous in the passing game also, but lately he's been dropping a ton of balls. Dalanie Walker is a better pass catching TE than Vernon Davis and just as dangerous, becase he used to play WR in college.

Anyway, it won't come to them. Crabtree will just abuse Patrick Peterson all game again FTW!

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Our PPG on defense will be in the 12s after this week. (13.4 right now)

yea alright brother. The only abusing going on is going to be in the 69ers shower after the game..

See ya on the slopes foo..
 

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yea alright brother. The only abusing going on is going to be in the 69ers shower after the game..

See ya on the slopes foo..

How old are you like 12?

Anyway Vernon Davis can block just fine but he needs to be doubled. Make someone else beat us. If it's Crabtree again then we can live with it. Don't let VD go off like he usually does.
 

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And no, he does not play WR on our team. He's put in to block A LOT. And he's great at it--top 5 in the league in terms of starting TEs for sure.

Uh, no... no he is not one of the best blockers in the league, by a long shot. He is lucky if he is in the top 50%.

The guy is a great athelete, a good pass catcher, and blocks about as well as a Dallas Clark, or JerMichael Finley.

He is not a Heath Miller or Jeff King type blocker. Not even close.
 

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As I said before, as long as Wilson is not assigned him we should be fine.
 

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Davis is a fine blocker

hard to make a point where you start off with a bad premise
 

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Uh, no... no he is not one of the best blockers in the league, by a long shot. He is lucky if he is in the top 50%.

The guy is a great athelete, a good pass catcher, and blocks about as well as a Dallas Clark, or JerMichael Finley.

He is not a Heath Miller or Jeff King type blocker. Not even close.

He's just as good a blocker as someone like Rob Gronkowski. As top receiving TEs go, he's maybe the best blocker among them after Jason Whitten (who's maybe on the downside of his career as a pass catcher).

To mention him in the same sentence as Finley, Clark, or Graham is really betraying your own ignorance on the subject. Two or three years ago, that may have been true, but Vernon Davis was inspired by Singletary to work on his craft as a blocker, and has become a willing and enthusiastic blocker both in-line and down the field.
 

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As I said before, as long as Wilson is not assigned him we should be fine.

Last game they did pretty well on him by alternating coverage between Wilson and Washington. I will be curious to see if they switch it up, or go with the same plan.
 

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He's just as good a blocker as someone like Rob Gronkowski. As top receiving TEs go, he's maybe the best blocker among them after Jason Whitten (who's maybe on the downside of his career as a pass catcher).

To mention him in the same sentence as Finley, Clark, or Graham is really betraying your own ignorance on the subject. Two or three years ago, that may have been true, but Vernon Davis was inspired by Singletary to work on his craft as a blocker, and has become a willing and enthusiastic blocker both in-line and down the field.

Uh, OK.

I will "betray my ignorance", disregard your arrogance and stick to my opinion, and what I see.

So is Davis such a good block that he is tops in the league ? I still say no.
 
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Uh, OK.

I will "betray my ignorance", disregard your arrogance and stick to my opinion, and what I see.

So is Davis such a good block that he is tops in the league ? I still say no.

Among the primarily receiving TEs in the league? He's a better blocker than:

Aaron Hernandez
Jimmy Graham
JerMichael Finley
Kellen Winslow II
Dallas Clark
Marcedes Lewis
Brent Celek
Fred Davis
Tony Gonzalez
Dustin Keller
Owen Daniels
Antonio Gates
Brandon Pettigrew
Greg Olsen
Ed Dickson
Jermaine Gresham
Vishanthe Shiancoe

I'd put him in the same or similar category as Jake Ballard, Jeremy Shockey, Benjamin Watson, etc., etc. But he's such a receiving threat that he has to be respected as a presence on the line, as well.

He's not "tops in the league" among blockers, but he's maybe the best two-way TE after Witten.
 

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Sadly, he will be torching Wilson all day, like he has for the last couple of years. I have accepted this as an inevitability. I just hope we can do enough to counter it.
 

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Vernon Davis is a TE. I believe he's lined up as a WR only once this year....and that was during the Bengals game.
Dude is a good blocker.
 

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He's not "tops in the league" among blockers, but he's maybe the best two-way TE after Witten.

And, as Rugby was arguing that he wasn't one of the top blocking TEs in the league (not top 'pass-catching' blocking TEs), you owe him an apology for calling him ignorant. It was, after all, you that misconstrued what he was arguing.
 

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And, as Rugby was arguing that he wasn't one of the top blocking TEs in the league (not top 'pass-catching' blocking TEs), you owe him an apology for calling him ignorant. It was, after all, you that misconstrued what he was arguing.

The argument was among the Top 5 "Starting" TEs in the league. Off the top of my head, I named 17 starting TEs that he's definitely better than at blocking. How many "starting" TEs in the NFL these days are primarily blockers, anyway?

He's a push with Anthony Fasano, if not a little better. That's 18. He's better than Buffalo's Scott Chandler. That's 19. He's better than Oakland's TE Kevin Boss. That's 20. There are only 31 other teams in the NFL. He's better than St. Louis's Billy Bajema. That's 21. He's better than Kansas City's Leonard Pope. That's 22. He's better than Dustin Keller (23). He's better than Zach Miller (24).

At least I tried to back up my argument with a little evidence. I'll give Rugby Jeff King and Heath Miller. Who are the other three starting TEs who are better blockers than Vernon Davis?
 

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The argument was among the Top 5 "Starting" TEs in the league. Off the top of my head, I named 17 starting TEs that he's definitely better than at blocking. How many "starting" TEs in the NFL these days are primarily blockers, anyway?

He's a push with Anthony Fasano, if not a little better. That's 18. He's better than Buffalo's Scott Chandler. That's 19. He's better than Oakland's TE Kevin Boss. That's 20. There are only 31 other teams in the NFL. He's better than St. Louis's Billy Bajema. That's 21. He's better than Kansas City's Leonard Pope. That's 22. He's better than Dustin Keller (23). He's better than Zach Miller (24).

At least I tried to back up my argument with a little evidence. I'll give Rugby Jeff King and Heath Miller. Who are the other three starting TEs who are better blockers than Vernon Davis?
well you gotta remember, in 2008 vernon davis was voted as the 1st alternate TE in the probowl by the coaches and players based on blocking ability alone. he had 31 catches for 358 yards that year and only 2 td's.
 

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Of the 5 years Vernon Davis has been with the 49ers, he's never been known as a bad blocker. In fact, everyone and their moms think blocking is one of his greatest attributes. Mike Singletary has said that Davis is the best blocking TE that he's ever seen. That's coming from a HOF linebacker. I remember going to training camp and fans would always got nuts over his power and blocking ability. Here's some examples:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGS7EMnIAh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1jAkPw2iyc



LOL @ Vernon can't block or is mediocre at it. He's a man beast that basically plays T for us sometimes.
 

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Of the 5 years Vernon Davis has been with the 49ers, he's never been known as a bad blocker. In fact, everyone and their moms think blocking is one of his greatest attributes. Mike Singletary has said that Davis is the best blocking TE that he's ever seen. That's coming from a HOF linebacker. I remember going to training camp and fans would always got nuts over his power and blocking ability. Here's some examples:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGS7EMnIAh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1jAkPw2iyc



LOL @ Vernon can't block or is mediocre at it. He's a man beast that basically plays T for us sometimes.

LOL @ YOU for showing up here after you lost a bet..when your wager was that you would never return.
 
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Put it this way, I do not see any of our LBs or DL losing sleep over the fact that Vernon Davis is going to limit them when they attack the line of scrimmage because of his blocking skills. They are, though, scared to death if they end up being put on a guy who plays the game like a WR.
 
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and there is the other point, many teams no longer have a true TE, and try to find big athletic WRs who come close to the size factor but not what is expected of the role traditionally. Even if one can state that Vernon Davis is a better blocker than half the starting TEs in the league...SO WHAT, they are the same version in vogue of a big WR in essence playing the position. What those other TEs cannot claim is the superb pass catching ability and ability to get open which Davis does have. Put a cornerback on the guy, or bad things will happen.
 

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