Veteran EDGE targets for 2025

[kerouac9]

has Chase Young ever gotten a multi-year deal after his draft contract was up? I see no reason to hamstring this team moving forward with that type of contract for a mercenary. He's a bad culture, mid production guy. If we're that desperate for a pass rusher, offer hima one year deal, but if we're in that position, we're screwed at EDGE anyway going into next year unless Robinson blossoms or BJ miraculously comes back healthy AND even better than he was in his non-descript rookie season.

To be fair he's only been a UFA once, even if it feels like he's been in the NFL forever.

Also I believe one variable MO likes is players that actually PLAY. Not interested in players that get injured often

Well, he's killing it in that aspect, I suppose.

 

[slanidrac16]

Looking at this draft I think our best path is to spend the money for a free agent DT. It would be an instant upgrade without waiting for development. That allows us to grab the best edge rusher in the draft who would also benefit from the DT addition along with the other edge rushers we have.
Willams or Jones fits the DT need.

 

[Cheesebeef]

To be fair he's only been a UFA once, even if it feels like he's been in the NFL forever.

Ah… the Niners traded for him? Still wouldn’t give him 3 years. Beyond whatever attitude issues he has, he just hasn’t been productive enough for that kind of commitment for me.

 

[kerouac9]

Ah… the Niners traded for him? Still wouldn’t give him 3 years. Beyond whatever attitude issues he has, he just hasn’t been productive enough for that kind of commitment for me.

Fair. Hopefully by year three you've built a resilient enough organization (including two highly drafted players from his program) to manage one screwball, but who knows.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Fair. Hopefully by year three you've built a resilient enough organization (including two highly drafted players from his program) to manage one screwball, but who knows.

Screwball’s juice has gotta be worth the squeeze. Not sure that’s the case here.

 

[Chopper0080]

Also I believe one variable MO likes is players that actually PLAY. Not interested in players that get injured often

Bro. Jones, Nichols, Ojulari, Darius Robinson, Jonah Williams, Christian Jones and Elijah Jones would like to a word. You have as good of a chance at predicting draft picks as you do with player health. You can try to mitigate risk based on the past, but injuries happen.

 

[Chopper0080]

Screwball’s juice has gotta be worth the squeeze. Not sure that’s the case here.

At some point you have to do what it takes to put better pass rush talent than Collins and Gardeck on the field.

 

[BritCard]

I think there are two big issues with Chase Young.

#1 Availability - Chase hasn't been healthy and has dealt with several injuries over the course of his short career.

#2 Bad Fit - The biggest complaint that I've heard about Young is that he freelances too much. Very often he wasn't where he was supposed to be from a gap integrity stand point and it drove coaches mad.

This right here.

It infuriated New Orleans so much that he has the 2nd most snaps at DE ahead of Cam Jorden, Payton Turner and Foskey. Despite have 2 head coaches, including one that publicly called out a running back for his availability so had no problem holding players to account.

It's a BS rumour.

There's zero evidence of bad attitude or anything else negative from either the Niners or Saints. The only rumour about this comes from a failing COmmanders franchise looking for an out on trading away a top 2 pick for a low 3rd.

 

[Stout]

At some point you have to do what it takes to put better pass rush talent than Collins and Gardeck on the field.

Which he is. I don't think that's in question.

 

[Shane]

At some point you have to do what it takes to put better pass rush talent than Collins and Gardeck on the field.

You clearly didn’t see the Canadian signing we just made. Dude is on it

 

[cardncubfan]

It infuriated New Orleans so much that he has the 2nd most snaps at DE ahead of Cam Jorden, Payton Turner and Foskey. Despite have 2 head coaches, including one that publicly called out a running back for his availability so had no problem holding players to account.

It's a BS rumour.

There's zero evidence of bad attitude or anything else negative from either the Niners or Saints. The only rumour about this comes from a failing COmmanders franchise looking for an out on trading away a top 2 pick for a low 3rd.

Cam Jordan is probably going to retire this year. He might play one more buts wants to finish his career with one team. He'll be in the booth next.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

At some point you have to do what it takes to put better pass rush talent than Collins and Gardeck on the field.

Yup. Last offseason they had chance to add guys like Greenard, Hunter, etc.
Instead we sat on 20 or 30 mil for most of the year.

 

[kerouac9]

Yup. Last offseason they had chance to add guys like Greenard, Hunter, etc.
Instead we sat on 20 or 30 mil for most of the year.

Yes but we extended Budda Baker and secured James Conner’s age 32 season so get AMPED

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Yes but we extended Budda Baker and secured James Conner’s age 32 season so get AMPED

Premium positions...yay.

 

[Chopper0080]

Yup. Last offseason they had chance to add guys like Greenard, Hunter, etc.
Instead we sat on 20 or 30 mil for most of the year.

Valid beef here.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Valid beef here.

That is what infuriates me. The Edge market was practically booming last off-season and we sat on our ass, watched the parade go by and even with a bevy of draft picks, didn’t move up to get a blue chip edge, we sat on our hands and took a project who did next to nothing.

 

[BACH]

Yes but we extended Budda Baker and secured James Conner’s age 32 season so get AMPED

K9, you have the most small dick energy of any person I have even seen

 

[Chopper0080]

Bach went all-in on that ban.

 

[Chopper0080]

That is what infuriates me. The Edge market was practically booming last off-season and we sat on our ass, watched the parade go by and even with a bevy of draft picks, didn’t move up to get a blue chip edge, we sat on our hands and took a project who did next to nothing.

For me, this was Monti's biggest miss.

We can debate whether or not keeping Allen was actually possible.

We can debate trading back from Will Anderson and getting Paris.

We can debate a number of other draft picks.

What is not debatable for me is having a glaring need at EDGE, multiple FA options, more than enough cap space, and ignoring it. If you gave me one question that Monti had to answer honestly, that would probably be it.

 

[MadCardDisease]

For me, this was Monti's biggest miss.

We can debate whether or not keeping Allen was actually possible.

We can debate trading back from Will Anderson and getting Paris.

We can debate a number of other draft picks.

What is not debatable for me is having a glaring need at EDGE, multiple FA options, more than enough cap space, and ignoring it. If you gave me one question that Monti had to answer honestly, that would probably be it.

I agree that not getting a proven Edge player might have been what kept this team out of the playoffs in year 2. I really wanted Hunter and his 12 sacks and veteran presence would have been huge for this defensive front.

 

[Cheesebeef]

K9, you have the most small dick energy of any person I have even seen

Lol… and folks accused me of being the salty one here. Egads!

 

[BirdGangThing]

For me, this was Monti's biggest miss.

We can debate whether or not keeping Allen was actually possible.

We can debate trading back from Will Anderson and getting Paris.

We can debate a number of other draft picks.

What is not debatable for me is having a glaring need at EDGE, multiple FA options, more than enough cap space, and ignoring it. If you gave me one question that Monti had to answer honestly, that would probably be it.

I think they're paying will anderson like 9 million this year... 11 sacks and counting

 

[Cheesebeef]

For me, this was Monti's biggest miss.

We can debate whether or not keeping Allen was actually possible.

We can debate trading back from Will Anderson and getting Paris.

We can debate a number of other draft picks.

What is not debatable for me is having a glaring need at EDGE, multiple FA options, more than enough cap space, and ignoring it. If you gave me one question that Monti had to answer honestly, that would probably be it.

The thing that bothers me the most is that he had so many options in two back to back off-seasons and failed miserably both times, now putting them in a position to likely overpay for a mid Edge in FA or backed into a corner to draft for need in the draft as opposed to drafting the best talent.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The thing that bothers me the most is that he had so many options in two back to back off-seasons and failed miserably both times, now putting them in a position to likely overpay for a mid Edge in FA or backed into a corner to draft for need in the draft as opposed to drafting the best talent.

Mebz we'll address this in year 5 of the 7 year plan.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

I think MO put alot of stock into BJO and when he blew that knee out it was just deflating.