That's a lot of pretty words and everything, AZF, but it doesn't come close to answering my question. I get that you're in love with Kolb. I'm not going to debate you on that; there's no point.
What I don't understand is your stated NEED that the Cards find a LONG TERM SOLUTION to the quarterback problem THIS OFFSEASON, regardless of the cost. That's the question that I asked, based on what you said, and I'd appreciate a response to it.
Because right now I'm assuming the answer is, "Because it makes my case for getting Kolb that much more urgent and anything that increases the chances that Kolb comes here is true."
First off you are not actually reading what I am saying. I am not in LOVE with Kolb. I get that everyone wants things to be black or white or one extreme or the other. Thats not me. There are things I like about Kolb (work ethic,leadership, arm, and accuracy) and things I don't like (downfield accuracy, turnover prone, pocket presence). What I am saying is I like the CONCEPT of taking swing on Young QB's when they become available. Are you going to hit on them every time? Nope. That doesn't mean you dont try however.
You see the fallacy of your premise is that you say "we don't need to address this QBOF need this offseason" and then go on to cite how Lombardi said Kolb was a 7 game winner in Philly and why would Az want that. Or how with Orton or Hass we win 8-10 games.
Well you see, you don't exactly get the pick of the litter when you are winning 7-10 games a season. You don't get high enough to draft the Luck level stud and you could draft a guy in the 10 - 20 range but thats an even bigger risk as those are usually the second tier QB's and those guys have just as many question marks as a Kolb if not more.
See this is why I like the CONCEPT of trading for Kolb. Hes a rare commodity. Young QB's who have actually proven they can play well in the regular season don't just magically become available. In fact they never do.
But as MD pointed out to you in the other thread, this is in fact a rare circumstance. The Eagles can't play Vick AND Kolb, they like Kafka, and Kolb will walk for nothing next year. There is precedent for this scenario.
Matt Schaub was a similarly skilled young QB who had showed well in the regular season BUT was behind a guy named Mike Vick. Vick is the best athlete EVER to play QB so you try to make it work with him if you can. Thats what ATL did and thats what Reid is doing.
So if you are asking me if I would trade a first or DRC for Matt Schaub right now, I am saying hell yes I would. Matt Schaub isnt the problem on that team and it would stand to reason that playing in a weaker division, with a somewhat better defense, and IMO much better coaching he would be even better then he currently is.
I see Kolb being in the same mold, and if you don't, I would like ot hear what you think the major differences in these two players is. If anything Kolb has done more both in college and the pros then Schaub had prior to being traded.
Oh and Schaub isnt available. For good reason.
So again thats my point. I like the concept of taking advantage of the Eagles log jam at the position for a good prospect in Kolb and rolling the dice. I think the Cards wont over pay and I think it is a calculated risk and one that I like.
What I don't believe in is stop gap solutions. Then you go throught what my Suns have gone through for past 20 years where you are not good enough to win it all and never bad enough to get the cant miss guy.
No thanks. 2008 showed me we can win a Super Bowl with a Top 8 QB and IMO Kolb is MUCH more likely to end up being that type of prospect rather then an Orton or Hass who are on the downside of their careers and were never really in that convo anyway.
But thats just me.
