Warner's Future (press conference)

[john h]

This stinks of retirement. Further onslaught of Leinart threads coming soon.

My guess he retires. This gives us time to execute what ever plans we may have. I think Matt will get his shot but it should be imperative that we secure an experienced NFL QB to backup Matt in case he fails. I do not think either of our current backups will ever be starters in the NFL Kurt leaving may very well effect who might chose to join the Cards and who might choose to leave. I am not very hopeful about Matt but understand it is a lot different when you are the man than being an unpopular backup. One problem he has is that I think next year he has an 11 million dollar option kicking in. That is just not going to happen IMHO. We do no have much choice but to give him his shot but I sure hate to see an entire season do south in case he fails. this Superbowl thing and winning division titles has been fun.

Perhaps we could get an older or promising backup QB for Boldin? With our great corps of receivers we should be attractive to some good FA QB if the Bidwills are willing to pay. If Kurt stays then this will be Matt's last year in AZ and we will have to find another QB as no way Kurt stays more than one more year. I can see him spending his time doing charity work if he retires.

 

[ajcardfan]

Well, of the 88 teams that have played in the Super Bowl, only three of them had Warner as a starter. So, apparently teams can win without him.

I'm just not sure the 2010 Cardinals can.

 

[Pariah]

I mean do you guys really believe he is top 15!?!?

Where did this come from? I think people who aren't jumping off buildings at the thought of Leinart under center think he's going to be good enough to win surrounded by a superior offense. Does that mean he's going to be a top-15 QB? Who knows. Maybe. Maybe not.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Where did this come from? I think people who aren't jumping off buildings at the thought of Leinart under center think he's going to be good enough to win surrounded by a superior offense. Does that mean he's going to be a top-15 QB? Who knows. Maybe. Maybe not.

Well I was just stating that most teams who make the playoffs have a top 15 QB...Wasnt saying you guys think he is...I was kinda having a conversation with myself there huh? LOL Anyways...Whatever happens...It has been a great ride...and lets hope it continues WHomever is leading us!

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Just ignore Campos. He's leaving the minute Kurts PC ends on Friday anyway.

Anyone who thinks they know what Leinart is going to do, good or bad next year, is just guessing. I would say the odds aren't good that he is going to the Pro Bowl, but I don' think we have the first pick in the 2011 draft either.

Like many others have said, the key will be a) how does Matt play going into the offseason knowing he is now the GUY and B) What type of defense is oming back next year.

Because the reality is we still have better weapons and still have a better coach then anyone else in this pukey division. You guys can slurp up all the 49er juice you like, but with Alex Smith again, I just don't see it.

The good news Beanie Wells just gained 80 or more so carries next year with this news so anyone excited about Wiz finally installing HIS offense is going to get to see how it will work on the West Coast.

They should have been extended yeaterday, but we will find out just how good Wiz and staff are come 2010.

 

[Fitz Rulz]

I am sad but we've to move on
we know this day was coming

 

[moklerman]

Well, I admit that my hope is clouding any objectivity I might have on Warner retiring. But I don't see any reason he would call a press conference other than to retire. Is there anything I'm not considering?

It was mentioned that Warner is making his decision now so that the Cardinals would be able to move forward accordingly. Any chance he's letting them know he's coming back for the same reasons?

How soon did he "announce" his decision to come back last year? I know it was fairly quickly but this year it's been within 2 weeks. I mean, the decision must be made and the announcement is all that's left.

 

[RedStorm]

He needs to announce his retirement early so he can experience the feeling of not having anything to live for...then, he will renounce his retirement plans and come back...ala Farve....

 

[Cards_Campos]

Just ignore Campos. He's leaving the minute Kurts PC ends on Friday anyway.

Anyone who thinks they know what Leinart is going to do, good or bad next year, is just guessing. I would say the odds aren't good that he is going to the Pro Bowl, but I don' think we have the first pick in the 2011 draft either.

Like many others have said, the key will be a) how does Matt play going into the offseason knowing he is now the GUY and B) What type of defense is oming back next year.

Because the reality is we still have better weapons and still have a better coach then anyone else in this pukey division. You guys can slurp up all the 49er juice you like, but with Alex Smith again, I just don't see it.

The good news Beanie Wells just gained 80 or more so carries next year with this news so anyone excited about Wiz finally installing HIS offense is going to get to see how it will work on the West Coast.

They should have been extended yeaterday, but we will find out just how good Wiz and staff are come 2010.

WHatever dude...I have been a fan of the Cardinals...LOOOOONNNGGGGGG before you knew about them.

What always got me riled up was the Leinart vs Warner debate...and I said many times Warner could take us to the playoffs and SUper Bowl...and he did. I think Leinart wont....Just my opinion...But I will gladly eat crow if he proves me wrong. I just think Mcnabb would make us instant contenders for different reasons. You can hate all you want. But What I said about Warner all came true!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

What are we going to do if Leinart has a bad 1st half in next year's 3rd pre-season game? That and his beer bong picture(let's hope some Greg Oden-esque pictures don't show up ) seem to be what most people are basing his ability on. I think the Cards are going to be fine. If Leinart's not a top 15 QB next year, it's only because the Cards have a top 5 running game.

 

[moklerman]

No to McNabb. This team's problem isn't on offense so even IF McNabb could come in and keep the offense as productive as it has been, the defense would still have major holes to fill.

I think it is a lot wiser course of action to see what the team has in Leinart and deal with the massive turnover as much as possible(Warner, Berry, Dansby?, Boldin?, etc.). "Deal" as in "money". Signing McNabb would cost too much in picks and in money for a team that needs replacements at a variety of key positions.

 

[imaCafan]

Man, what a bummer. I would be willing to bet that as has been stated by others this means good-bye to Kurt. I loved what he has brought to this team, I loved how he helped us win and even got us into the playoffs/Superbowl 2 years in a row. But even more I think is I just loved to watch him play, especially when he was "on". When he is on the defenses he faced couldn't do anything to stop him. What a great player and an asset to the human race!!!! You will be missed, KW......(and if he doesn't by chance retire, ignore this post)....

 

[MrYeahBut]

Just ignore Campos. He's leaving the minute Kurts PC ends on Friday anyway.

Anyone who thinks they know what Leinart is going to do, good or bad next year, is just guessing. I would say the odds aren't good that he is going to the Pro Bowl, but I don' think we have the first pick in the 2011 draft either.

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I dunno, he'd only have to do as well as Gerrard did this year

 

[moklerman]

To be fair, Warner didn't go to the pro-bowl this year either.

 

[Doug]

I think Whiz will show us he can do wonders with quarterbacks.
I don't believe there is a whisenhunt offense.Coach will always take the materials he has in players and get as creative as he can to only put the best players on the field and Coach Whiz's offense will always adjust to who he has to work with.

Whether coach Whiz is the top passing team or top running team. He can do both.Limiting him to a past Steelers offense is unfair ro call that Whisenhunts style.His stlye is forming with each game and season he puts under his belt working with just this one GM in Graves.Each GM he gets to work with will also change his style also.Every team will apply limits he will know about in expectations of what he will have to work with.

I'd say coach Whiz and Kurt have long since talked about what needs to be done and what changes will probably happen in this next years campaign.Whiz if anything if not realistic.I'm sure everything they talked about included the many changes we can expext next year.

I think coach and Matt will work very well together and give coach many more options with an agile qb who can now run many bootlegs we normally would'nt have run.

The very old Warner hating lady on the main Cardinals board can now die happy as she hated anything Warner,if you can believe such a thing.Her handle is like 185 or something.She'll probably have a double assure to celebrate tonight.Good for her.Hope Kurt runs for the Arizona Senate instead of shooting low and end up a talking head like Aikman.He can become anything he wants to be.America could use him in getting the right agenda.GOD BLESS YOU Kurt!!!Thanks for the memories.The Packers game was a heck of a last WIN to have. I'll never forget it.

 

[Mitch]

I think Whiz will show us he can do wonders with quarterbacks.
I don't believe there is a whisenhunt offense.Coach will always take the materials he has in players and get as creative as he can to only put the best players on the field and Coach Whiz's offense will always adjust to who he has to work with.

Whether coach Whiz is the top passing team or top running team. He can do both.Limiting him to a past Steelers offense is unfair ro call that Whisenhunts style.His stlye is forming with each game and season he puts under his belt working with just this one GM in Graves.Each GM he gets to work with will also change his style also.Every team will apply limits he will know about in expectations of what he will have to work with.

I'd say coach Whiz and Kurt have long since talked about what needs to be done and what changes will probably happen in this next years campaign.Whiz if anything if not realistic.I'm sure everything they talked about included the many changes we can expext next year.

I think coach and Matt will work very well together and give coach many more options with an agile qb who can now run many bootlegs we normally would'nt have run.

The very old Warner hating lady on the main Cardinals board can now die happy as she hated anything Warner,if you can believe such a thing.Her handle is like 185 or something.She'll probably have a double assure to celebrate tonight.Good for her.Hope Kurt runs for the Arizona Senate instead of shooting low and end up a talking head like Aikman.He can become anything he wants to be.America could use him in getting the right agenda.GOD BLESS YOU Kurt!!!Thanks for the memories.The Packers game was a heck of a last WIN to have. I'll never forget it.

The pressure will be squarely on Whiz now. If the Warner-less offense sputters, the pundits will say Whiz's success was predicated on Warner and his input into the offense.

Whiz won't last beyond the next year or two, probably to his own liking, as he may be in line to take a more auspicious job. His blunders on staff hirings on defense will do him in. The Cardinals' success is far more attributable to Warner than anything else. Warner has been the one constant, regadless of Whiz, Haley, etc. Time will prove this, especially if Whiz sticks, as the Bidwills will insist he does, with Leinart as QB...and continues to think that Bill Davis is the answer as DC.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I respectfully disagree with bringing in a vet who was previously a starter

Why? My hypothesis is that we already had a vet in Kurt that was either breathing down his neck or playing in front of him given no chance. He has demonstrated that it is not possible for him to succeed with such pressure. He should be anointed starter with no strings attached and see how he does. With the lack of pressure and freedom to play his game, I feel he will do a much better job because he will not worry about losing his job. themselves pressing too hard to be like, in this example, Kurt Warner.

I totally disagree.

If he can't handle the pressure of being challenged then he has too thin of skin to be our QB. Even Kurt had to earn his starting position. There is nothing he has done to even merit giving him the starting job. If anything we should be trying to re-do his deal for backup money or trade him. Absolutely need to bring in someone to challenge him for starter. IMO

 

[Mitch]

I totally disagree.

If he can't handle the pressure of being challenged then he has too thin of skin to be our QB. Even Kurt had to earn his starting position. There is nothing he has done to even merit giving him the starting job. If anything we should be trying to re-do his deal for backup money or trade him. Absolutely need to bring in someone to challenge him for starter. IMO

You got it, BullheadCardFan!

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Yup! It was all Kurt. Too bad that he was being held back by the 10 dwarfs on the field, and the mental midgets on the sideline.

Don't quite understand how Whiz's blunders turn into a better opportunity for him, but then... I didn't understand why some couldn't tell the difference between pyrite and gold when it came to Brian St-Pierre.

 

[Mitch]

Yup! It was all Kurt. Too bad that he was being held back by the 10 dwarfs on the field, and the mental midgets on the sideline.

Don't quite understand how Whiz's blunders turn into a better opportunity for him, but then... I didn't understand why some couldn't tell the difference between pyrite and gold when it came to Brian St-Pierre.

Funny you brought up BSP. How confident was Whiz in Matty to pit BSP against him for the #2? If you honestly think Whiz is heading into this season thinking, yeah we'll pick it right back up with Matty, you are sadly mistaken. Whiz has said all the right things, but, there's no way he's going to go with Matty. No way.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I respectfully disagree with bringing in a vet who was previously a starter

Why? My hypothesis is that we already had a vet in Kurt that was either breathing down his neck or playing in front of him given no chance. He has demonstrated that it is not possible for him to succeed with such pressure. He should be anointed starter with no strings attached and see how he does. With the lack of pressure and freedom to play his game, I feel he will do a much better job because he will not worry about losing his job. Honestly, he has been spoiled his entire football career ever since pop warner when he was automatically the starter and no one could compete with him. It is inarguable that the pressure from a HoF QB is apparent and can affect pretty much any other QB on the team because they find themselves pressing too hard to be like, in this example, Kurt Warner.

We do have to bring in a QB on the open market, as we have only one on the payroll next season. A Bulger or a Pennington will bring the same pressure that Warner gave. I say bring in a person who is solid and not necessarily going to look for a stater's role. Sage Rosenfels comes to mind. On top of that, one mid to late round rookie should be added to the roster.

As a diehard Cards fan, I am cautiosly optimistic about Leinart. I really have no other choice as he is going to be the starter for this team; therefore, he has my utmost support.

If little Matty's psyche can't handle the pressure of possibly better vet QB lighting a fire under his ass, I'm pretty sure I don't want him here as a signal caller anyway.

 

[daytripper]

I would hope that if (when) Mr. Warner retires he also announces he has taken a front office, or better yet a coaching position with the team.

 

[Mitch]

I would hope that if (when) Mr. Warner retires he also announces he has taken a front office, or better yet a coaching position with the team.

He's going to Miami this week to posture for a TV gig. Bank on it.

 

[daytripper]

He's going to Miami this week to posture for a TV gig. Bank on it.

You're probably right but one can hope.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Funny you brought up BSP. How confident was Whiz in Matty to pit BSP against him for the #2? If you honestly think Whiz is heading into this season thinking, yeah we'll pick it right back up with Matty, you are sadly mistaken. Whiz has said all the right things, but, there's no way he's going to go with Matty. No way.

You doing some mind melding with your TV, again?

You don't have a clue as to what Whiz thinks, and your point is simply predicated on your bias against Leinart.

I'll take Whiz at his word, and leave it to you to call him a liar.

If I'm sadly mistaken, I'll own up.

Something you've rarely, if ever done, over the past decade.