Warriors + Cousins = the NBA HAS JUMPED THE SHARK

[MaoTosiFanClub]

And anyone who thinks players continually taking less money to go to a few select markets isn't bad for the league has zero business acumen or understanding of human nature.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

You mean like when they tried to trade Klay Thompson for Dwight Howard?

The Warriors are the luckiest franchise in NBA history. There's been about 30 flukish things that have allowed this dynasty to unfold most notably the once in a lifetime cap spike (it'd be like if there was a salary jump in 2004 and allowed the Lakers to add like Tracy McGrady to Shaq and Kobe) and the odd amount of injuries their playoff opponents seem to come down with.

This signing is laughable and will usher in a hard cap at which point the Warriors will be in their mid-30's and basically done so nothing lasts forever. We just have to deal with their insufferable bandwagoning fans until then.

Really? Us Cards fans know the old "bandwagon fans" nonsense is just sour grapes commentary when perennial losers become kings of the hill.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/7/3/17530210/demarcus-cousins-warriors-signing-2018-23-thoughts

6. What would Golden State critics have the Warriors do when Boogie’s agent calls? “No, I’m sorry, this will go over poorly. We agree that it’d be a beautiful match, help us and help you, but no. It’s too rude to the rest of the league.” That’s never going to happen in a league competitive as the NBA.

16. All that said, there is no evidence the Warriors’ continued dominance and stockpiling of talent is bad for the league. Ratings have been up, fans watch the Warriors in droves, and the NBA’s historical high points have traditionally been associated with dominant teams like the 1980s Celticsand Lakers, the 1990s Bulls, and the early-2010s Heat. The league office probably cringed when Cousins took the deal only because a bunch of franchise owners are going to complain about the Warriors, not because this will actually hurt the NBA.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Really? Us Cards fans know the old "bandwagon fans" nonsense is just sour grapes commentary when perennial losers become kings of the hill.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/7/3/17530210/demarcus-cousins-warriors-signing-2018-23-thoughts

It's also true that they have inherited a huge amount of bandwagon fans, the dynasties always collect 'em.

The thing about Warriors fans is they really are delusional and gobble up all the kool-aid and nonsense that is written about how smart they are. They think the Warriors are playing some 3-dimensional chess when in reality they just caught a couple breaks over the last few years.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

It's also true that they have inherited a huge amount of bandwagon fans, the dynasties always collect 'em.

The thing about Warriors fans is they really are delusional and gobble up all the kool-aid and nonsense that is written about how smart they are. They think the Warriors are playing some 3-dimensional chess when in reality they just caught a couple breaks over the last few years.

Nonsense...plenty of teams have luck yet never fully capitalize. The two go hand in hand...

 

[1tinsoldier]

insufferable

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I'd rather be drinking Kool-Aid than the other drink:

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[LoyaltyisaCurse]

insufferable

Well, at least you're good at math.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Nonsense...plenty of teams have luck yet never fully capitalize. The two go hand in hand...

Like I said delusional.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Well, at least you're good at math.

yes. and i added 1 to your total. it looked like it's been a while

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

yes. and i added 1 to your total. it looked like it's been a while

I'll add it to my trophy shelf.

 

[Hoop Head]

I can't help but wonder how people would react to this if Cousins didn't sign any deal this summer and waited until he was healthy enough to return before inking a deal with a contender for the last 2-3 months of the season and the playoffs. I don't think anyone would care that much. That sort of thing happens often around the trade deadline. Older players get dealt to bad teams and they get bought out to seek out a deal with a contender before they actually shop for a real contract the next season. Greg Monroe did that this year being traded to the Suns and then waived to sign for cheap with the Celtics. This is very similar to the buyout market after the trade deadline though. Veteran signs with a contender for a playoff push and a ring before seeking a better deal in the offseason.

 

[SirStefan32]

If I am not mistaken they cleared enough to sign him and then their own free agents signed to go over the cap. That is what I meant by taking advantage of the rules to make it work. If the rules didn't allow this they would have had to not re-sign one of their top players in order to take on Durant.

Unless I am remembering the situation differently and all their top players were still under contract when Durant signed.

I don't remember the details, but I know they had to give up two starters (Barnes and Bogut) in order to make room for KD. My point is that if they signed Brandon Knight, nobody would be bitching about it. In my mind, who the player was is completely irrelevant. People are just hating on GSW because they are damn good. Lucky too- Curry happened to be on a modest contract because of his ankle issues back in the day. There is nothing wrong or shady with what they have done and continue to do.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The vast majority of his posts occurred prior to this format. We had no like button until the change.

YES!!!! Let’s start THIS debate!!!

 

[1tinsoldier]

YES!!!! Let’s start THIS debate!!!

you mean start everyone fresh with 0 posts, 0 likes? i'm all for what's fair for everyone

 

[Dback Jon]

you mean start everyone fresh with 0 posts, 0 likes? i'm all for what's fair for everyone

NEED.DISLIKE.BUTTON

 

[Evil Ash]

I don't remember the details, but I know they had to give up two starters (Barnes and Bogut) in order to make room for KD. My point is that if they signed Brandon Knight, nobody would be bitching about it. In my mind, who the player was is completely irrelevant. People are just hating on GSW because they are damn good. Lucky too- Curry happened to be on a modest contract because of his ankle issues back in the day. There is nothing wrong or shady with what they have done and continue to do.

I don't have an issue with the warriors. They are taking advantage of a completely broken system.

My issue has been and continues to be with the league. When lebron, wade and Bosh joined up in Miami the league acted as though it were a fluke. When durant signed with the warriors, they again acted like it's a fluke. ITS NOT A FLUKE IF IT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN!

You have a few teams trying to form super teams filled with superstars. Half of the league is trying to lose as it's the only way for them to get superstars. The rest are treading water. In short, it's a mess that they desperately need to fix.

 

[ozzfloyd]

NEED.DISLIKE.BUTTON

Sounds like some on here require their affirmation to come from anonymous digital 'likes'.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I don't have an issue with the warriors. They are taking advantage of a completely broken system.

My issue has been and continues to be with the league. When lebron, wade and Bosh joined up in Miami the league acted as though it were a fluke. When durant signed with the warriors, they again acted like it's a fluke. ITS NOT A FLUKE IF IT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN!

You have a few teams trying to form super teams filled with superstars. Half of the league is trying to lose as it's the only way for them to get superstars. The rest are treading water. In short, it's a mess that they desperately need to fix.

Two occurrences = trend?

 

[Dback Jon]

Sounds like some on here require their affirmation to come from anonymous digital 'likes'.

Don't take my likes and posts from me!!

 

[ozzfloyd]

Don't take my likes and posts from me!!

The likes...they sustain me! lol.

 

[Russ Smith]

You mean like when they tried to trade Klay Thompson for Dwight Howard?

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You've got that wrong. What actually happened is they tried to sign Howard as a FA but in order to do that they needed to dump 3 salaries, Bogut, Biedrins and Richard Jefferson. The rest of the NBA correctly figured out Bogut was still not healthy, so the plan fell through and Howard went to Houston.

The part you're talking about was a proposal from the Lakers, not the Warriors. The Lakers were offering to do a sign and trade with Howard so they signed him, and then the Warriors would trade Thompson, and Barnes, for Howard. The Warriors told the Lakers they were not interested in that deal because they didn't want to give up Klay and Barnes.

What ended up happening? They dumped Biedrins, Jefferson, and Brandon Rush by swinging a 3 team deal, the Jazz got the 3 dumped players, the Nuggets got Randy Foye, Warriors threw in picks to Utah, Denver got some other stuff including an exception, and the Warriors got.... Iguodala!

That wasn't luck it was the Warriors using the system correctly. They wanted Howard, that is the owner Lacob did, but they were smart enough to realize they didn't have enough caproom to get him and trading Klay and Barnes made no sense, so they instead used the Jazz and Nuggets to get enough caproom to get Iggy(who wanted to join the Warriors as a FA), they held onto Bogut who got healthy enough to play a major role in the first title, Iggy was the finals MVP of the first title. The old phrase in sports is sometimes the best trade is the one you don't make, that was a perfect example, they didn't let the Lakers swindle them.

After blowing a 3-1 lead and losing to the Cavs the next year, they used the cap increase correctly, let Barnes and Bogut walk, and used the money to sign Durant. I have been saying for years how critical Iggy has been to the Warriors, and that happened entirely because in the end they were smart enough to not get suckered into a bad deal for Howard.

 

[Evil Ash]

Two occurrences = trend?

Boston with Garnett, Allen, and Paul pierce is another example. The league loves this. They want status quo.

Some of us prefer at least a little parity. We can pretty much eliminate 26 of the teams from contention before the season has started. When MLB has more parity then you, you should realize there's a problem

 

[Hoop Head]

You've got that wrong. What actually happened is they tried to sign Howard as a FA but in order to do that they needed to dump 3 salaries, Bogut, Biedrins and Richard Jefferson. The rest of the NBA correctly figured out Bogut was still not healthy, so the plan fell through and Howard went to Houston.

The part you're talking about was a proposal from the Lakers, not the Warriors. The Lakers were offering to do a sign and trade with Howard so they signed him, and then the Warriors would trade Thompson, and Barnes, for Howard. The Warriors told the Lakers they were not interested in that deal because they didn't want to give up Klay and Barnes.

What ended up happening? They dumped Biedrins, Jefferson, and Brandon Rush by swinging a 3 team deal, the Jazz got the 3 dumped players, the Nuggets got Randy Foye, Warriors threw in picks to Utah, Denver got some other stuff including an exception, and the Warriors got.... Iguodala!

That wasn't luck it was the Warriors using the system correctly. They wanted Howard, that is the owner Lacob did, but they were smart enough to realize they didn't have enough caproom to get him and trading Klay and Barnes made no sense, so they instead used the Jazz and Nuggets to get enough caproom to get Iggy(who wanted to join the Warriors as a FA), they held onto Bogut who got healthy enough to play a major role in the first title, Iggy was the finals MVP of the first title. The old phrase in sports is sometimes the best trade is the one you don't make, that was a perfect example, they didn't let the Lakers swindle them.

After blowing a 3-1 lead and losing to the Cavs the next year, they used the cap increase correctly, let Barnes and Bogut walk, and used the money to sign Durant. I have been saying for years how critical Iggy has been to the Warriors, and that happened entirely because in the end they were smart enough to not get suckered into a bad deal for Howard.

They also had David Lee in there. Wasn't he making big money? Like $18 million or something? I know he was set to expire after that first title win but I remember him helping them overcome the Cavs that year as their small ball Center. Not sure how they got him though. I think it was the Knicks who signed him to that deal, initially.

 

[1tinsoldier]

NEED.DISLIKE.BUTTON

that might be OK, but has a negative energy, and would require a software hack.

Sounds like some on here require their affirmation to come from anonymous digital 'likes'

i administered an online forum without a Like feature for 15 years and i wish i had it
it speaks to why we ALL post on forums like this
we want to be heard and have our ideas affirmed
otherwise, you might post a hundred times and only get a few feedback responses
it also encourages civility.
bad behavior is less likely to be liked
(sorry. off-topic)

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

that might be OK, but has a negative energy, and would require a software hack.


i administered an online forum without a Like feature for 15 years and i wish i had it
it speaks to why we ALL post on forums like this
we want to be heard and have our ideas affirmed
otherwise, you might post a hundred times and only get a few feedback responses
it also encourages civility.
bad behavior is less likely to be liked
(sorry. off-topic)

For those of us "old school" posters, I haven't seen any change in our tone/tenor since the like button. We can all be jerks sometimes and sometimes not. I really don't take anything personal, nor do I think most here do..."Like" buttons are much easier than hitting reply with a thumbs up symbol.