Washington met with the FO Monday

[BigRedRage]

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...s-meet-linebacker-daryl-washington/315259001/

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[BullheadCardFan]

Curious to hear how the meeting went.

 

[BigRedRage]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ebacker-daryl-washington-after-reinstatement/

Nothing new here either. Looks like Somers broke the story that a meeting happened and nothing else has come out.

 

[Garthshort]

Could they/would they trade him? If so, I'm guessing for a 6th or 7th round pick, if he makes the team. And if he does and gets significant PT the pick could become a 4th or 5th round pick. What does everyone/anyone think?

 

[BigRedRage]

Could they/would they trade him? If so, I'm guessing for a 6th or 7th round pick, if he makes the team. And if he does and gets significant PT the pick could become a 4th or 5th round pick. What does everyone/anyone think?

Id be surprised if anyone is giving up a pick for a guy who hasnt played in 3 years. The only way that happens is if we play him a lot in preseason and he still looks really good but at that point, you dont trade him.

 

[BleedRed]

I agree, I doubt he has any significant value at this point. I do however like that the meeting did not include anyone from his camp (lawyer, agent, etc.) Very curious what comes of this. Still have my fingers crossed he can get his poo together and be a valuable part of our team.

 

[BigRedRage]

I agree, I doubt he has any significant value at this point. I do however like that the meeting did not include anyone from his camp (lawyer, agent, etc.) Very curious what comes of this. Still have my fingers crossed he can get his **** together and be a valuable part of our team.

I found that interesting too that he went in by himself.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

I've said it before but I would be very disappointed if we kept him on the roster this long and did not at least attempt to salvage some production out of him now that he is reinstated. I don't care about the financial implications. If they thought strongly enough about the offenses that occurred, then they should have dumped him years ago. The fact that they dragged this thing out this long, they should at least kick the tires. If he is even 75% of his old self, he will be better than half the LB's we have.

 

[BigRedRage]

I've said it before but I would be very disappointed if we kept him on the roster this long and did not at least attempt to salvage some production out of him now that he is reinstated. I don't care about the financial implications. If they thought strongly enough about the offenses that occurred, then they should have dumped him years ago. The fact that they dragged this thing out this long, they should at least kick the tires. If he is even 75% of his old self, he will be better than half the LB's we have.

I agree, to me there is no point in not letting him practice and play as a backup ILB special teamer for now and just see what he has. If we get through preseason and he is a liability or will not help us, look into trading or cutting him but for now, let the dude suit up and see what happens. It is highly unlikely he starts this year regardless, for now he would just be a slight expensive backup ILB. To have him and reddick at backup means you could rotate when needed too.

 

[TJ]

Could they/would they trade him? If so, I'm guessing for a 6th or 7th round pick, if he makes the team. And if he does and gets significant PT the pick could become a 4th or 5th round pick. What does everyone/anyone think?

No one is assuming his contract. He's either playing in AZ at a reduced rate or he's being cut. A trade won't happen.

 

[BillsCarnage]

I agree, to me there is no point in not letting him practice and play as a backup ILB special teamer for now and just see what he has.

Remember, it's still conditional reinstatement. All he can do is go to the facility, work out and attend meetings. He can't practice, can't participate in camp, etc, at least not yet. Last I recall, the NFL mentioned week 1 of the season as being fully reinstated. The could probably be accelerated if he gets things in order.

If it is a week 1 full reinstatement, he probably won't be in game shape until close to mid season. He may not be fully back to 'normal' until 2018.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I found that interesting too that he went in by himself.

I think that is a positive for him. That action shows he is not hiding behind anyone, he is there to represent himself as a person.

 

[BigRedRage]

I think that is a positive for him. That action shows he is not hiding behind anyone, he is there to represent himself as a person.

My assumption as well.

Although, Keim coulda said come meet with us and dont bring anyone with you

 

[BigRedRage]

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.@AZCardinals president Michael Bidwill tells @SiriusXMNFL he expects a decision "fairly soon" on whether team will keep LB Daryl Washington

 

[Brak]

No one is assuming his contract. He's either playing in AZ at a reduced rate or he's being cut. A trade won't happen.

Why not? The trade could be for a conditional pick, based on making the final 53 and playing time. Makes a roster, 7th round pick. Plays in 10+ games, converts to 6th rounder. Makes Pro Bowl, 3rd rounder. Etc.

My take? Depending on how far he's really come with his maturity, and how well he was able to convince team brass of that, I'd be willing to give him another chance. Yes, he's 30, but with 3 years off, has less wear on the tires than if he'd been playing, so he's effectively still in his 20's. And man did he have talent before being sat down.

 

[BigRedRage]

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[gmabel830]

Why not? The trade could be for a conditional pick, based on making the final 53 and playing time. Makes a roster, 7th round pick. Plays in 10+ games, converts to 6th rounder. Makes Pro Bowl, 3rd rounder. Etc.

My take? Depending on how far he's really come with his maturity, and how well he was able to convince team brass of that, I'd be willing to give him another chance. Yes, he's 30, but with 3 years off, has less wear on the tires than if he'd been playing, so he's effectively still in his 20's. And man did he have talent before being sat down.

It's more about the contract a team would be taking on than the trade compensating they'd be giving up.

 

[Bodha]

Ive said it before, I think Mike is far more likely to forgive and let Dwash come back than Keim.


I see Keim being super sour and wanting to cut him asap. In fact, Im thinking Mike is the only reason Keim hasnt cut DWash yet.

 

[Mitch]

Ive said it before, I think Mike is far more likely to forgive and let Dwash come back than Keim.


I see Keim being super sour and wanting to cut him asap. In fact, Im thinking Mike is the only reason Keim hasnt cut DWash yet.

Michael Bidwill was the one who endorsed cutting Michael Floyd. MB wants to feel a sense of remorse. If DW did not make it 100% clear that he is remorseful and that he is willing to accept a new deal that this time doesn't hold the Cardinals accountable if DW fails again, then Bidwill will cut him. Chances are that all three: MB&SK&BA will have to be on the same page. DW's willingness to show contrition by his words and his actions (reworking his deal) will have everything to do with whether he remains in the ARI or not.

 

[Bodha]

Michael Bidwill was the one who endorsed cutting Michael Floyd. MB wants to feel a sense of remorse. If DW did not make it 100% clear that he is remorseful and that he is willing to accept a new deal that this time doesn't hold the Cardinals accountable if DW fails again, then Bidwill will cut him. Chances are that all three: MB&SK&BA will have to be on the same page. DW's willingness to show contrition by his words and his actions (reworking his deal) will have everything to do with whether he remains in the ARI or not.

I agree with that.

I do think Dwash will be much more appealing in his response. Obviously he had to get clean and stay clean to get unsuspended, so hes obviously cares to some degree.

And I see a huge difference with the Floyd situation. 1st of all Floyds crime was abominable. He should be rotting in prison right now. DWashs crime was that he was undependable. Broke his word and messed up with weed again.

Secondly, Floyd is an idiot. He doesnt understand why DUI is bad. That alone makes him dangerously stupid.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

My assumption as well.

Although, Keim coulda said come meet with us and dont bring anyone with you

True, Washington could have said he would not go under those conditions as well.

 

[Totally_Red]

IF Dwash is willing to accept a minimum salary with incentives, I don't really see the downside to keeping him at this point.
Some upside, no downside. At worst he is not reinstated and/or can't perform and is cut anyway.

 

[WildBB]

He owes this franchise. He needed to convince them to give him another shot and that his body is up to the rigors of an NFL season and post season.

 

[BigRedRage]

Urban chimed in:

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2017/05/10/bidwill-process-with-washington-decision/

more at think link, here is a blurb:

“I don’t see this as a 30-minute meeting,” Bidwill said. “There is a lot that needs to go into this and our analysis, because we haven’t seen him in three years. There is a lot more process that we are going to go through than just having a meeting. I think that everyone has to be comfortable to put him back on the field.

“We’re going to go through our process and hopefully have an answer, one way or the other, here soon.”

Bidwill said he didn’t want to get into specifics about what the team might need to hear from Washington.

“I will speak generally, we need to know that this isn’t going to happen again,” Bidwill said. “That he had accepted responsibility for what happened and what he’d done, and there were a couple different things that happen. … I just think, generally, we need to know players accept responsibility, have addressed their issues in a therapeutic way in which we know professionally they are going to be good to go moving forward and that we are going to be comfortable having them around.

“Also, when you have a player off the field for three years, that’s a big deal. … We’ve got some more process to go through.”

 

[jbeecham]

The amount of his contract isn't bad at all... $2.9 million is a bargain if DWash is 75% of the player that he used to be. What I would want is an out-clause added to the contract to void it if he gets suspended again for substance abuse. If they're also able to reduce the amount or make it more incentive based then that's a bonus. I'd even be fine with the 4 year length if the out-clause is in place & they're satisfied that DWash has accepted responsibility for his mistakes.