Welcome to Arizona Michael Floyd

[Russ Smith]

Google is a search engine that is different for everyone. What one person types in and gets, is not the same as what others type in and get.

Since you were searching for DUI stuff, and then searched for Michael Floyd, the CIA machine linked the two together and gave the results you were searching for first.

Even then, just because it's more reported doesn't mean it's equal. People got to remember of the the 12 picks that went before Floyd, it's highly likely that about ten of them drank as much or more than Floyd, they just didn't get caught.

You also might not want to go to CBS sportsline and read the opinion piece about pot. Not about Floyd, but amongst colleges in general and the NFL downgrading it as a red flag because of the culture.

Uhh no. After the pick I was pretty ok with it but wondered about the alcohol thing. I typed in "Michael Floyd" and Google then started to try and guess what I was going to type next and offered up DUI, alcohol, alcohol related offenses, arrested, reinstated.

My guess is google works on what has been looked at most commonly recently not by me, but by people in general. Since the book on Floyd was alcohol issues that comes up. Since the other guys at ND didn't apparently have the same issue, if you type in Harrison Smith you don't get all those suggestions by google.

I follow UCLA basketball REALLY closely. As SI made clear UCLA had several kids in the 08 and 09 classes who were bigtime partiers, alcohol, pot, fighting etc. To my knowledge, it's pretty likely it would get out for a UCLA kid, the only kids who had any issues with the law during that time was Nikola Dragovic(domestic with ex GF, fight) and Jerime Anderson(stealing a laptop).

I can't recall a single report that one of those knuckleheads got a DUI, got busted for underage drinking etc. Maybe UCLA doesn't cite people for it that often, maybe they protect the athletes better than ND does I don't know.

But I imagine the recent experience with UCLA hoops makes me a bit more sensitive to that issue too. I watched that nonsense tear down a program for a few years.

 

[CardsFan88]

I'm telling you a fact, google alters their search for everyone. Each person's results are different. If we both type in the same thing irrespective of what they are, you tend to get different results. Some will be similar, some will be different. It's also possible that if you did searches for UCLA or anything else regarding DUI's on that computer, it's on the record, and led to those likely choices.

It's not the same for everyone. But it isn't 100 percent that way. It also goes based on coverage and Floyd's troubles have coverage. Thus it could of come up either way, but none are really indicative of anything other than what a person searches for and what the big stories were.

In other words, the most likely things isn't a good way to judge something. It's goalseeked and popularity based, and that makes it an unreliable guide for bigger picture issues. It's a derivative based judgement, one that is prone to errors. This is a general statement as each situation is different.

What I'm saying has no impact on Floyd himself, I'm really just trying to explain google, and point out flaws in people using this aspect of google to make judgements or further one.

For example the thing for me says....
Michael Floyd notre dame
Michael Floyd stats
Michael Floyd draft

The searches related does have it, but I also clicked on that DUI thingy you posted yesterday, so it may have altered the results. Or because it was a major issue regarding a drafted player, people wanted to search it out. Just because people searched for it, doesn't give you much information other than a lot of people were interested about Floyd, heard something about DUI's, and searched for it. That's not breaking news or any sort of info that should further any judgement. Just saying.

 

[Russ Smith]

I'm telling you a fact, google alters their search for everyone. Each person's results are different. If we both type in the same thing irrespective of what they are, you tend to get different results. Some will be similar, some will be different. It's also possible that if you did searches for UCLA or anything else regarding DUI's on that computer, it's on the record, and led to those likely choices.

It's not the same for everyone. But it isn't 100 percent that way. It also goes based on coverage and Floyd's troubles have coverage. Thus it could of come up either way, but none are really indicative of anything other than what a person searches for and what the big stories were.

In other words, the most likely things isn't a good way to judge something. It's goalseeked and popularity based, and that makes it an unreliable guide for bigger picture issues. It's a derivative based judgement, one that is prone to errors. This is a general statement as each situation is different.

What I'm saying has no impact on Floyd himself, I'm really just trying to explain google, and point out flaws in people using this aspect of google to make judgements or further one.

For example the thing for me says....
Michael Floyd notre dame
Michael Floyd stats
Michael Floyd draft

The searches related does have it, but I also clicked on that DUI thingy you posted yesterday, so it may have altered the results. Or because it was a major issue regarding a drafted player, people wanted to search it out. Just because people searched for it, doesn't give you much information other than a lot of people were interested about Floyd, heard something about DUI's, and searched for it. That's not breaking news or any sort of info that should further any judgement. Just saying.

Fair enough. but I just googled harrison smith DUI, the first few links are to DUI lawyers, then a link to a story about Smith where further down there's a mention of a DUI for... Floyd.

I wasn't saying googles suggestions prove anything but the fact is there was one ND player in the draft who had those concerns so blaming that on a special situation at ND seems unlikely.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

so why is he the only ND player we heard of this happening with?

It's okay to say the guy does have some pretty alarming red flags but I hope he's grown out of them, rather than just make up excuses for the guy.

Joe Montana was accused of doing cocaine at ND...

 

[crisper57]

Joe Montana was accused of doing cocaine at ND...

That's just cause they thought he was related to Tony Montana.

 

[Duckjake]

That's just cause they thought he was related to Tony Montana.

Go ahead! I take your pass rush! You think you kill me with your pass rush? I take your pass rush! Go ahead!

I'm Joe Montana! You mess with me, you messin' with the best!

 

[Russ Smith]

Joe Montana was accused of doing cocaine at ND...

That was actually a LONG standing rumor in the Bay Area. You'd be amazed how many people believe that his back surgery was actually cocaine rehab.

Makes little sense given how long he was out but to this day there are people who beleive that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'll say this, even though he's got red flags for drinking for me, I LOVE the fact that his work ethic ON THE FIELD is considered second to none.

 

[D-Dogg]

I'm very happy with this pick. He's going to tear defenses apart as a #2 across from Larry. our 1 and 2 have the best hands tandem in the league, no question.

 

[D-Dogg]

I LOVE the fact that his work ethic ON THE FIELD is considered second to none.

To me, that is what makes average guys good, good guys great and great guys legendary.

Hard workers make me giddy.

 

[Shzm13]

Fitz, Floyd, Early, Roberts, Housler. We have TWO good weapons.

fixed.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Floyd is going with # 15 for his Jersey.

 

[mjb21aztd]

If Kolb doesn't run out of bounds and actually throws the ball Floyd and Fitz should be nasty togather!!!! Welcome to az Floyd

 

[PDXChris]

http://www.azoneteamstore.com/detail.php?p=372267&v=cardinals_jerseys&icid=floyd_slider1_04-26-12

Just told the wife to order me this for my birthday. It ships a few days before.

 

[Krangodnzr]

It's a pattern, it's a history, it's something the Cards organization has intentionally avoided with high picks for years now.

Which leads to line ups with Tony McCoy, Fred Wakefield, and other "high character" guys starting.

We don't exactly have the most sterling history avoiding players with supposed "red flags". In fact I would argue that we've gotten significantly better since we started taking more chances on guys like Darnell Dockett.

 

[Russ Smith]

Which leads to line ups with Tony McCoy, Fred Wakefield, and other "high character" guys starting.

We don't exactly have the most sterling history avoiding players with supposed "red flags". In fact I would argue that we've gotten significantly better since we started taking more chances on guys like Darnell Dockett.

Dockett wasn't the 13th pick in the first round.


I do agree with the idea that what the Cards did for years didn't always work so changing that could be good, just pointing out it's a risk.