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[Cheesebeef]

Or a normal amount in a party session. Today's kids don't drink, they BINGE. If you don't binge, you're doing it wrong. That's the way they do it. That's the norm.

I'm just saying you keep looking at this like what he did wasn't normal, I'm telling you, normal is worse than what this kid did...sans drinking and driving.

I'd say the average kid not drinking and driving, just drinking and riding in a cab, or with a designated driver would blow a .15-.2X.

uh... 10-11 drinks in an HOUR is in NO WAY a normal amount of drinking in any party session and this is coming from a raging alcoholic who just destroyed my body at Coachella for the 9th time.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yes today any offense and you are considered one. It's part of the assume first policy our great leaders bestowed upon us young sheeple. It's done more for CYA so the school doesn't get sued as opposed to actually being for the benefit of the student.

Politics 101

Yep we should all feel sorry for the kid who got busted at .19 and got suspended "indefinitely" by tough coach Kelly only to be reinstated in time for football season to start. He didn't even miss a game, his only punishment was he wasn't allowed to be team captain. And this is a kid who as a freshman was there as Clausen was having HIS issues with drinking at ND. You'd think guys that saw that would have learned from Clausen's mistakes.

They put him in that program because it was a requirement of the student conduct code for him to avoid expulsIion from Notre Dame.

 

[desertdawg]

uh... 10-11 drinks in an HOUR is in NO WAY a normal amount of drinking in any party session and this is coming from a raging alcoholic who just destroyed my body at Coachella for the 9th time.

Damn I've only been to Chella 3 times, but I reside in Phee-town. Been to Burningman 7 times though

 

[CardsFan88]

uh... 10-11 drinks in an HOUR is in NO WAY a normal amount of drinking in any party session and this is coming from a raging alcoholic who just destroyed my body at Coachella for the 9th time.

That's an inexact graph. That doesn't mean you need to drink that much in an hour. He could of drank that much in a few hours, or slightly more. 12 beers in 3-4 hours probably gets him there.

 

[Darkside]

uh... 10-11 drinks in an HOUR is in NO WAY a normal amount of drinking in any party session and this is coming from a raging alcoholic who just destroyed my body at Coachella for the 9th time.

Tend to agree, but I have to think at his size he was throwing down some massive BEER BONGS. I'm 42 and we did 'em all the time in college. I imagine with his notoriety in college and at his size they were probably chanting him on seeing how many he could do. That's not to excuse it, but that's the only way a human could down 11 drinks in an hour. Huge beer bong session.

 

[wilycoyote24]

This is the last time I'll make this point, but it was COLLEGE. I remember my record of 21 shots in a night. I probably would die drinking that amount now, but that is what college is about. Kids are free from their parents for the first time. Can anyone here say they behaved like an adult as a teenager?

 

[CardsFan88]

Yep we should all feel sorry for the kid who got busted at .19 and got suspended "indefinitely" by tough coach Kelly only to be reinstated in time for football season to start. He didn't even miss a game, his only punishment was he wasn't allowed to be team captain. And this is a kid who as a freshman was there as Clausen was having HIS issues with drinking at ND. You'd think guys that saw that would have learned from Clausen's mistakes.

They put him in that program because it was a requirement of the student conduct code for him to avoid expulsIion from Notre Dame.

Who is feeling sorry for him? Yeah he probably should have been disciplined more, but should it keep him from landing a job?

He doesn't seem like a Maurice Clarrett to me. You'll get no argument from me about his drinking and driving. He got caught and hasn't been again. I doubt he will be again.

The ones you have to really worry about from the Cardinals perspective is one with multiple DUI's. I don't see him as that type. The cardinals did their due diligence and are convinced as well.

Is there a small chance that he becomes a booze hound again? Sure. But the same could be said with anyone that ingest alcohol. I think the major issues are behind him as lessons learned, and the others are irrelevant because he's 21.

 

[CtCardinals78]

FFS people he went to college, was a huge football superstar and partied. Big freaking deal. It's not like he was juicing, or beating up kids, or shooting smack. He freaking drank. Big freaking deal. He makes this team immediately better. Show me one kid in college that didn't drink. He will be fine and be a good player in AZ. He's with his buddy Fitz and is SUPER PSYCHED to be a Cardinal and it's legit. When is the last time you can say that about any Cardinal draft pick? That is good enough for me and I'll certainly drink to that!!!!!

 

[Darkside]

This is the last time I'll make this point, but it was COLLEGE. I remember my record of 21 shots in a night. I probably would die drinking that amount now, but that is what college is about. Kids are free from their parents for the first time. Can anyone here say they behaved like an adult as a teenager?

I don't consider a "teenager" the same as being in college though. However, all I saw in college were chicks and beer. I had a few books, but mostly used them as coasters.

 

[Cheesebeef]

This is the last time I'll make this point, but it was COLLEGE. I remember my record of 21 shots in a night. I probably would die drinking that amount now, but that is what college is about. Kids are free from their parents for the first time. Can anyone here say they behaved like an adult as a teenager?

that great and all... and I was a murderous wreck in college... but all that being said, got through it without one citation, nor a DUI and no one ever threatened to suspend me indefinitely unless i got my life on track like Floyd's coach had to with him.

and if it was just college... and he's like everyone else... preytell... why aren't there stories about ALL these picks doing the exact same thing and having the same problem with alcohol?

just saying, if it was that prevalent, why do people actually talk about it with Floyd and we hear nothing as far as other first rounders that have been drafted?

 

[Cheesebeef]

FFS people he went to college, was a huge football superstar and partied. Big freaking deal. It's not like he was juicing, or beating up kids, or shooting smack. He freaking drank. Big freaking deal. He makes this team immediately better. Show me one kid in college that didn't drink. He will be fine and be a good player in AZ. He's with his buddy Fitz and is SUPER PSYCHED to be a Cardinal and it's legit. When is the last time you can say that about any Cardinal draft pick? That is good enough for me and I'll certainly drink to that!!!!!

his problem with alcohol almost got him kicked off the football team. That's kinda a big deal. I mean, you have to be a COMPLETE DISASTER to be one of the team's best players and have your coach threaten you that if you don't get your **** together, he's gonna kick your ass off the team.

 

[Russ Smith]

Or a normal amount in a party session. Today's kids don't drink, they BINGE. If you don't binge, you're doing it wrong. That's the way they do it. That's the norm. Not saying it's good, just saying that's what's done today and the last couple of decades....perhaps earlier. Don't know I'm 33 and that was accepted practice when I was in college, hell high school.

I'm just saying you keep looking at this like what he did wasn't normal, I'm telling you, normal is worse than what this kid did...sans drinking and driving.

I'd say the average kid not drinking and driving, just drinking and riding in a cab, or with a designated driver would blow a .15-.2X.

Yes I was at parties where they saw someone drinking, and rounded everyone up and breathalyzed everyone. Wouldn't let them leave. Had to take the test first. Anything over .000 was a ticket. This was pre 9/11. This wasn't unique, but the norm.

I actually wish they did that more often. Trying to look at someone and determine if they're sober enough to drive home isn't easy.

Cops are better at it than fellow partiers obviously but there IS a reason they do stuff like that, it's called public safety.

I actually wish I'd never googled Michael Floyd DUI, I was just fine with the pick until I saw .19.

I knew about the past history but I had no idea it was .19, completely changed my opinion. That's more than twice the legal limit in Indiana. Note, the story I read said he was RETURNING to campus when he got stopped so he was drinking off campus and got stopped running a stop sign just past the entrance back on campus.

 

[WarnerHOF]

Drinking and drug use is so overblown.

Much better to have a guy doing these things than being lazy and having an attitude.

 

[wilycoyote24]

that great and all... and I was a murderous wreck in college... but all that being said, got through it without one citation, nor a DUI and no one ever threatened to suspend me indefinitely unless i got my life on track like Floyd's coach had to with him.

and if it was just college... and he's like everyone else... preytell... why aren't there stories about ALL these picks doing the exact same thing and having the same problem with alcohol?

just saying, if it was that prevalent, why do people actually talk about it with Floyd and we hear nothing as far as other first rounders that have been drafted?

Perhaps because he went to a college that is REALLY serious about that kind of stuff. Or bad luck in getting caught. Or who cares why he got caught, because my point is that anyone could be caught that many times.

 

[Russ Smith]

That's an inexact graph. That doesn't mean you need to drink that much in an hour. He could of drank that much in a few hours, or slightly more. 12 beers in 3-4 hours probably gets him there.

Depends on what he was drinking and the alcohol content in it but its the amount of alcohol not the amount of drinks that gets you to .19 faster.

But I agree it's inexact, it was just the first police sponsored chart I found off google.

 

[desertdawg]

BRB, need another beer.

 

[CtCardinals78]

his problem with alcohol almost got him kicked off the football team. That's kinda a big deal. I mean, you have to be a COMPLETE DISASTER to be one of the team's best players and have your coach threaten you that if you don't get your **** together, he's gonna kick your ass off the team.

He didn't though. And by all account turned it around. He was vetted by the Cardinals who normally choose high character guys. If that's good enough for MB and KW it is certainly good enough for me. Damn if Vick can get a second chance for killing dogs and Ray Lewis can get a second chance being involved in some way shape or form in murder I can certainly give a young man a second chance who drank too much in college.

 

[Duckjake]

Today cops bust everyone for drinking. They'll breathalyze 50 kids or more and herd them in line like cattle. Hell they've been doing that for 15-20 years and pre 9/11, I'd hate to be an under 21 kid now

The Police have realized that busting people for drinking is where the money is. I just wish they'd catch some of the people who have broken in to my office so many times we had to fence the entire property and board up the windows as well.

But its easier to catch people drinking and driving or even drinking and walking these days and its high profile and a great way to get larger budgets for the police department than catching burglars.

When was the last time you heard about a no tolerance weekend for Burglars or Graffiti artists. Sure reducing DUI is vitally important but don't abandon policing other crimes.

Oops I just put up a P&R post.

Back to football. Ricky Williams smoked pot. He still led the NFL in rushing. Floyd like many of us will grow up working under the wing of the Alien and become Alien II.

 

[Darkside]

his problem with alcohol almost got him kicked off the football team. That's kinda a big deal. I mean, you have to be a COMPLETE DISASTER to be one of the team's best players and have your coach threaten you that if you don't get your **** together, he's gonna kick your ass off the team.

But why's it a bigger deal than the tons of kids who do meth or also drink alcohol, smoke too much pot, and flunk out of college? It's only a huge deal to us because we're focused on football. There's tons more disasters in college than this example. There's also tons of pervs in college, sleeping with passed out girls, stalking them, etc etc. I'm not excusing it, I'm saying yes he was wasted, and I still think he is just so big and was probably at a party that dudes and chicks were like how many beer bongs can you do and he downed some. The real tragedy to me is that he didn't have any friends who were like don't drive, we'll call you a cab. He did what a lot of kids do, in my opinion, but because of his size he could do more of it.

 

[Darkside]

BRB, need another beer.

I'm with ya brotha.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Perhaps because he went to a college that is REALLY serious about that kind of stuff. Or bad luck in getting caught. Or who cares why he got caught, because my point is that anyone could be caught that many times.

so why is he the only ND player we heard of this happening with?

It's okay to say the guy does have some pretty alarming red flags but I hope he's grown out of them, rather than just make up excuses for the guy.

 

[Darkside]

Drinking and drug use is so overblown.

Much better to have a guy doing these things than being lazy and having an attitude.

True, at least he's committed.

 

[desertdawg]

I'm with ya brotha.

I was thinking about getting that new special Bud Light stuff, maybe I'll call Floyd and see if it's any good.

 

[Russ Smith]

The Police have realized that busting people for drinking is where the money is. I just wish they'd catch some of the people who have broken in to my office so many times we had to fence the entire property and board up the windows as well.

But its easier to catch people drinking and driving or even drinking and walking these days and its high profile and a great way to get larger budgets for the police department than catching burglars.

When was the last time you heard about a no tolerance weekend for Burglars or Graffiti artists on the 11 o clock news. Sure reducing DUI is vitally important but don't abandon or minimize policing other crimes just to get more publicity and money.

I'm going to assume it has a lot more to do with being much more EFFECTIVE to do random stops for DUI checks than random stops for burglary checks?

Graffiti is obvious, it's because very few people get killed by people tagging buildings. It sucks, I hate graffiti, but it's not close to as dangerous to public safety as DUI is. They have to prioritize.

 

[Darkside]

I actually wish I'd never googled Michael Floyd DUI, I was just fine with the pick until I saw .19.

I knew about the past history but I had no idea it was .19, completely changed my opinion. That's more than twice the legal limit in Indiana. Note, the story I read said he was RETURNING to campus when he got stopped so he was drinking off campus and got stopped running a stop sign just past the entrance back on campus.

I actually wish you hadn't told me it was a .19 because I've been way wasted and blew much less than that, so I know how totally trashed that is.