What about the 13th Player?

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But, still don't expect the management to spend a couple of million on the #13 player.
We're not talking about the 13th guy on the bench here. The SUNS know they need reliable defensive/shooting help on the wings. Artest is probably far fetched but they're not going to bring in a no-name yahoo either IMO.
 
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We're not talking about the 13th guy on the bench here. The SUNS know they need reliable defensive/shooting help on the wings. Artest is probably far fetched but they're not going to bring in a no-name yahoo either IMO.

This is my opinion as well, but I think the Suns will not have to spend that much for a contributor although Sarver might surprise us. Who would have thought he would bring in Shaq. I'd settle for Salmons. :)
 

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This is my opinion as well, but I think the Suns will not have to spend that much for a contributor although Sarver might surprise us. Who would have thought he would bring in Shaq. I'd settle for Salmons. :)
Salmons would look nice in a SUNS uni.
I feel for the guy though. He's ready to be a starter but can't get break thru in SAC town as long as Arstest is there.
I doubt that he'd start here either.
 

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And u don't acquire a 8-9M player just to be 20minutes backup role. Artest and Mike Miller r both star caliber who will definitely occupy the SF position completely by 35mpg. Hill's playing time will be decreased a lot, so will be Diaw.

From the point of view of the Suns front office, the only way to get Artest or Mike Miller is to ship out Diaw in the process. But Diaw's versatility is too valuable to part with. We might need him to cover heavy minutes at PF or even C when Shaq sits.

Lower ur expectation, guys ... I would be suprised if they bring in a multi-million guy like Pietrus.
 

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Thats fine but the fact is that we traded our SF for a true center. They have no choice but to replace the position with someone who has proven he can play..... even with Hill there.
 

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This is my opinion as well, but I think the Suns will not have to spend that much for a contributor although Sarver might surprise us. Who would have thought he would bring in Shaq. I'd settle for Salmons. :)

I think it would be easier to get Artest from the Kings than Salmons. He wants to be there, is playing well, has a decent deal, is young, and is locked up for a few years.

I understand the sentiment about the money for a 13th player etc. But this is a championship run. This is for about 4 months, at the most 16 months. Artest is insurance for the remainder of the Nash era.
 

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I'm guessing it's Bobby Jones or Linton Johnson, and I'm leaning towards the latter right now I think. I'd be just fine with either one of them.

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I'm guessing it's Bobby Jones or Linton Johnson, and I'm leaning towards the latter right now I think. I'd be just fine with either one of them.

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I'm personally not comfortable with them because I do not remember seeing them play (which really means nothing). However, I'm thinking you are close to right and I think the Suns may lean this way. On the other hand I would be more comfortable if the 13th player were a more proven commodity if the Suns are going for a Championship. Really I want a player than can get off the bench and help as a reserve. That's why I keep leaning towards a player like Khryapa or Giricek. I think the Suns would grab Giricek right now if he were available because they could use another shooter in spite of the need for a defensive wing.
 

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Bobby Jones, like DJ Strawberry has one legit, NBA skill: defense. He's very good. That said, I expect that Kerr is working the phones to see if he can't trade for a legitimate wing. I think the Suns will use all of the two weeks to find someone.
 

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I'm personally not comfortable with them because I do not remember seeing them play (which really means nothing). However, I'm thinking you are close to right and I think the Suns may lean this way. On the other hand I would be more comfortable if the 13th player were a more proven commodity if the Suns are going for a Championship. Really I want a player than can get off the bench and help as a reserve. That's why I keep leaning towards a player like Khryapa or Giricek. I think the Suns would grab Giricek right now if he were available because they could use another shooter in spite of the need for a defensive wing.

Khryapa would be the easiest solution. I assume he has to clear waivers before the Suns could pick him up. In fact, he might be the plan. Is it possible that the Suns promised to pick him up, and in return, he gave the Bulls a sweet buyout deal?
 
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Khryapa would be the easiest solution. I assume he has to clear waivers before the Suns could pick him up. In fact, he might be the plan. Is it possible that the Suns promised to pick him up, and in return, he gave the Bulls a sweet buyout deal?

Please let it be.
 

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Khryapa would be the easiest solution. I assume he has to clear waivers before the Suns could pick him up. In fact, he might be the plan. Is it possible that the Suns promised to pick him up, and in return, he gave the Bulls a sweet buyout deal?
The word is that Khryapa will return to Russia to sign with CSKA Moscow.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/781653,CST-SPT-bullnt07.article

He complained about not getting much playing time with the Bulls, and I doubt he would get much more playing time here.
 

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Khryapa would be the easiest solution. I assume he has to clear waivers before the Suns could pick him up. In fact, he might be the plan. Is it possible that the Suns promised to pick him up, and in return, he gave the Bulls a sweet buyout deal?

I'm guessing that would violate the CBA in some way or another. I don't think team officials are allowed to contact another teams players while they are still under contract with them.
 

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I'm guessing that would violate the CBA in some way or another. I don't think team officials are allowed to contact another teams players while they are still under contract with them.

Not if the teams were talking trade. It would go something like this.

Suns: We'd love to have VK, but we really can't trade anything for him.
Bulls: We'd love to have him off the books. We're not using him anyway.
Suns: Maybe he'd give you some consideration in a buyout if we guaranteed to sign him once he clears waivers.
Bull: OK we'll check.

Later

Bulls: Yep. He said he would do it. You can call him and give him your assurances.
Suns: Sure thing.
 

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i just hope whoever we sign, we make sure they get minutes. if they can defend and shoot respectably from the corner (35%ish), i'd take 'em.
 

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Artest said that his agent assures him he will get 14-15 mil in the open market this summer. He also skipped a practice. His trade value just went to zip.

If we were to aquire him for the trade exception alone we would pay a prorated portion of his salary (approx 3.5 mil) and then a match of his whole deal in lux tax dollars. Hmm, 11 million for Artest for 4 months.

I might do it, but I wouldn't give up a pick anymore.
 

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Artest is too expensive and might make trouble chemistry wise.

I dont think a trade is likely to happen, just heard a couple of veteran free agents and NBDL guys r coming for tryout. There might be some1 get a buyout b4 deadline and fall into our favor. Be patient and wait.
 

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Here's another idea for our 13th player.....

Sergio Rodriguez, 6'3, 170lbs, $817,000 with 1 more year on his contract.

He has played in 49 games this year for Portland, but is averaging less than 10 minutes per game because the Blazers have Brandon Roy, Steve Blake & Jarrett Jack ahead of him. I liked him in the draft because his court vision & passing ability reminded me of a young Steve Nash. He's having a poor shooting year though at 35% fg and 27% from 3. If he could come in and learn from the best PG in the NBA then there might not be too much drop off when Nash goes to the bench.
 
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Why are we so concerned with the 13th player? They're not likely to play at all.

IMO the Suns need a backup for Hill if nothing else. It seems they really suffer from a lack of depth with the departure of Marion at forward. Although Shaq will help he is still not a forward.
 

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i have a feeling Kerr will do something great 1 day before the deadline so the other Elite teams don't have a chance counter it.
 
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